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explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

17 Apr 2007 at 11:38 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Ascalon Keys -> Ascalon
Vabbian Keys -> Vabbi
Kournan Keys -> Kourna
Canthan Keys -> Cantha
Istani Keys -> Istan
Luxon Keys -> Luxon
Kurzick Keys -> Kurzick

Need i say more?

Ascalonian is incorrect.

I'm sorry, but you're actually incorrect. They are called Ascalonian Keys. Go check out the merchants in Ascalon.

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

17 Apr 2007 at 12:10 - 42

Found it! A quote about Sylvari from the official wiki at http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sylvari

So we will not see a mature Sylvari community in GW:EN.

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

17 Apr 2007 at 13:06 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Ascalon Keys -> Ascalon
Vabbian Keys -> Vabbi
Kournan Keys -> Kourna
Canthan Keys -> Cantha
Istani Keys -> Istan
Luxon Keys -> Luxon
Kurzick Keys -> Kurzick

Need i say more?

Ascalonian is incorrect.

I'm sure they say "Ascalonian Keys" but whatever... The definition of Ascalonian and its plural - Ascalonians, translates 'only' as "Ascalon Person/People". That's the only time you can use that word, which means it isn't incorrect. It's more accurate, however, to say 'Ascalon Warrior' than 'Ascalonian Warrior'. The first is the same as saying "Warrior of Ascalon" while the second is the same as saying "Warrior of the Ascalon People". I think simplicity is easier.

I wouldn't have used keys in my example btw, they aren't people :P

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 13:08 - 44

I love his imagery of the Norn fighting the ice wyrm in the snowstorm. It kind of reminds me of one of my favorite movie scenes of all time... In 13th Warrior, where the vikings + 1 are on the ship, and it starts with a closeup of Antonio shivering in the rain, but you hear laughing, and it zooms out and it is raining hard, the waves are huge, and all the vikings are like "bring it"...while laughing.

I am interested to hear more about what a "multi-level dungeon" is because the way the interview put it, is that it will be a completely new mechanic. The more I hear, the less I think it will be like Tombs...

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

17 Apr 2007 at 13:37 - 45

Maybe multilevel dungeons are random generated.

Rydrallen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

17 Apr 2007 at 13:53 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taala

Well here's a screenshot of the dialogue I quoted earlier, just to make it clear:

And he's the king.

Ppl should listen to the king.

Talking about asuras, those little house elf wannabes are too cutesy to be called asuras. If I recall correctly Asuras are actually a race of fierce celestials. There http://www.yugioh-cards.net/Merchant...db2-en183.html

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

17 Apr 2007 at 13:54 - 47

Screenies look kinda cool.

I'm not a red blooded ascalonion. (Pronounced AsskalOnyun)

I like charr.

Blowing things up? That sounds kinda fun.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

17 Apr 2007 at 14:19 - 48

More info, but barely anything we haven't heard before.

Honestly, the only announcement I'm interested in at the moment is "it'll be released tomorrow guys".

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 14:21 - 49

/selfpwn.

Damnit Anet, stop mixing up your Lore.

Mhenlo was supposed to have "spent much of his life" in Serenity temple, how did he spend so much time in Cantha.....

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 14:51 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rydrallen

Ppl should listen to the king.

Talking about asuras, those little house elf wannabes are too cutesy to be called asuras. If I recall correctly Asuras are actually a race of fierce celestials. There http://www.yugioh-cards.net/Merchant...db2-en183.html

Specifically, Hindu spirits, also known as demons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura (as opposed to Devas)

They are also referred to in Buddhism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura_%28Buddhism%29

Quote:

The Asuras formerly lived in the Trayastrimsa world, on the peak of Mount Sumeru, with the other gods of that world. When Sakra became the ruler of that world, the Asuras celebrated by drinking a lot of Gandapana wine, a liquor so strong that Sakra forbade the other gods to drink it. Weakened by their drunkenness, the Asuras could not resist when Sakra had the whole lot of them thrown over the edge of Trayastrimsa into what would become the Asura-world at the base of Sumeru. A tree grows there called Cittapatali; when the Asuras saw it blossom, they saw that it was different from the Paricchattaka (Sanskrit: Pariyatra) tree which had grown in their old home, and they knew that they were dispossessed.

They now meditated on war. In armor and weapons, they climbed up the steep slopes of Sumeru "like ants". Sakra set out to meet them, but was forced to retreat because of their numbers. Passing through the forest where the garudas live on his flying chariot, Sakra saw that his passage was destroying the nests of the garudas and ordered his charioteer Matali to turn back. When the pursuing Asuras saw Sakra turn about, they felt certain that he must be coming back with an even larger army, and they fled, ceding all the ground they had gained.

SuperDave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

South Africa

Forever Knights

Mo/

17 Apr 2007 at 15:20 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansamy

I reckon I need to pack away the sunspear and vabbian slutwear and break out something a little warmer for my ele to wear if we are gonna be trekking through snow-covered peaks.

LMAO
/catchbreath
LMAO

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

17 Apr 2007 at 15:27 - 52

Rurik said "Ascalons" but Rurik is differently-abled.

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

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R/

17 Apr 2007 at 15:33 - 53

"Sunspear and Lightbringer titles were well received."

Lies.

Kas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 15:44 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade26

"Sunspear and Lightbringer titles were well received."

Lies.

I'm not calling it lies but i'd rather call it lack of research. The two titles were heavily discussed which I wouldn't actually call well received. I've got a feeling this statement was based entirely upon frequentation numbers of the titles, showing they had a much larger distribution than every single other title. The reason for this is not their popularity but instead the reason that when Nightfall was released the game required you to grind the Sunspear Title on a foreign character to continue with the storyline.

________

The overall article is quite nice to read and sounds promising. We'll see how it turns out after it's finished.

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

17 Apr 2007 at 15:44 - 55

Its Ascalonians. Ascalons isn't grammatically correct. adding an S isn't one of the correct suffixes in this situation.

Before you bring up luxons and kurzicks, those are tribe names and not based on country names.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 15:54 - 56

Grammatically correct? What does grammar have to do with it?

Language and references are a matter of cultural nuances...has nothing to do with grammar.

What does the canon say?

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

17 Apr 2007 at 16:01 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Grammatically correct? What does grammar have to do with it?

Language and references are a matter of cultural nuances...has nothing to do with grammar.

What does the canon say?

the canon cant even get it right it says ascalonian and ascalons in diffrent places.

Gramer has alot to do with it. there are no canthas, there are canthans. there are no elonas, there are elonians.

Seeing as every other group of people in the game use the right suffix, and the fact that ascalon is based on a midevil english world, it would make 100% sense that it follows suit and that they are called ascalonians.

Ascalons is such bad english that I still wouldn't say it even IF anet said thats their official name.

Taala

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

17 Apr 2007 at 16:02 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoudeous

Its Ascalonians. Ascalons isn't grammatically correct. adding an S isn't one of the correct suffixes in this situation.

So you are saying they got it wrong in the game?

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

17 Apr 2007 at 16:18 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taala

So you are saying they got it wrong in the game?

Of course not, ANET are infallible.

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 16:20 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade26

"Sunspear and Lightbringer titles were well received."

Lies.

Agreed. I don't know why they're so determined to add more PVE-only grindskills like Lightbringer's Gaze.

Its also a bummer how he gave such an evasive answer to the "how much content?" question. Makes me worry that it might be pretty small.

Ah, well. I still love the general concept and I'm still really looking forward to it.

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

17 Apr 2007 at 16:23 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

Agreed. I don't know why they're so determined to add more PVE-only grindskills like Lightbringer's Gaze.

I just hope that isn't their answer to lesser used Primary Professions in PvE. Seems like a cop-out if that's the case, guess we'll find out in time though.

Charr homeland looks like Pre-Searing? Let's not wussify the Charr please.

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 16:28 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravious

I love his imagery of the Norn fighting the ice wyrm in the snowstorm. It kind of reminds me of one of my favorite movie scenes of all time... In 13th Warrior, where the vikings + 1 are on the ship, and it starts with a closeup of Antonio shivering in the rain, but you hear laughing, and it zooms out and it is raining hard, the waves are huge, and all the vikings are like "bring it"...while laughing.

I am interested to hear more about what a "multi-level dungeon" is because the way the interview put it, is that it will be a completely new mechanic. The more I hear, the less I think it will be like Tombs...

maybe i missed something but... where is that picture?

edit: nvm i get it :P

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

17 Apr 2007 at 16:35 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halmyr

woot for a la Dungeon est dragon ( thats french for " woot for dungeons and dragon

)

LOL! -> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donjons_et_dragons

Learn French, or don't use it.

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

17 Apr 2007 at 16:53 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

LOL! -> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donjons_et_dragons

Learn French, or don't use it.

He's already explained in a later post he is French just bad at spelling and grammer.
No need to carry it on.

I'm really worried about GW:EN. Its either gonna be a master piece or a total disaster. I hope its the first.

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

17 Apr 2007 at 17:38 - 65

Did anyone notice that some of the enemy types look like those that were in the Factions CE art book?

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 18:15 - 66

I can't wait to get this game. Wonder if there will be a collector edition for this game?

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

17 Apr 2007 at 18:40 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

/selfpwn.

Damnit Anet, stop mixing up your Lore.

Mhenlo was supposed to have "spent much of his life" in Serenity temple, how did he spend so much time in Cantha.....

He's older than he looks.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 18:51 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

I can't wait to get this game. Wonder if there will be a collector edition for this game?

I hope so. I also hope Anet includes a bonus item that will be transferable to Guild Wars 2....

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 19:06 - 69

From reading more information on GW:EN, it sounds like it's going to contain new storyline, armors and weapons for existing classes. Don't seem like there is a chance for them to put out a regular and collection edition for GW:EN.

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

17 Apr 2007 at 19:13 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

Its also a bummer how he gave such an evasive answer to the "how much content?" question. Makes me worry that it might be pretty small.

I wouldn't expect too much at least area-wise. I think one of the earlier interviews mentioned that game will cost less since it isn't a stand-alone campaign, so I'd assume there will be much less content than in, say, Factions which is currently the shortest game of the three. But as said the price will reflect that too.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 19:35 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taala

So you are saying they got it wrong in the game?

Yep.

I did a little investigation and the term "Ascalons" pops up in over a dozen quests.

So either ANET needs to get this straight or "Ascalons" is the right term to use.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

17 Apr 2007 at 20:34 - 72

Quote:

In Nightfall, the Sunspear and Lightbringer titles were well received. We are going to be expanding that mechanic to include new groups that players can form allegiances with. These will in turn allow them to gain and power up brand new player-versus-environment skills."

Quote:

They will not only be superpowerful during combat...

Funny, everyone I know hates the grinding of those title tracks.

And sigh, confirmation that the craptastic PvE-only skills are nothing but power escalation.

*Alexiel*

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

England, and on here... http://alexiel-star.deviantart.com/

CPx

R/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 00:52 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoudeous

the canon cant even get it right it says ascalonian and ascalons in diffrent places.

Gramer has alot to do with it. there are no canthas, there are canthans. there are no elonas, there are elonians.

Seeing as every other group of people in the game use the right suffix, and the fact that ascalon is based on a midevil english world, it would make 100% sense that it follows suit and that they are called ascalonians.

Ascalons is such bad english that I still wouldn't say it even IF anet said thats their official name.

I think I'd have to agree with you there...'Ascalons' really does sound terrible english. I'd almost always assumed it was ascalonians and no dispute =s

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

18 Apr 2007 at 02:44 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFrost

I wouldn't expect too much at least area-wise. I think one of the earlier interviews mentioned that game will cost less since it isn't a stand-alone campaign, so I'd assume there will be much less content than in, say, Factions which is currently the shortest game of the three. But as said the price will reflect that too.

Why would you think that?

It costs less BECAUSE its an expansion, not because its going to have less content. All expansions by default are much cheaper because you have to buy a core game.

Example: Everquest II would be the normal $49.99 and all expansions would cost $39.99. And that's because it would normally require people to pick up the original core game first. (There currently is a deal right now that gives you the core game and all of the expansions for $39.99.)

GW:EN has been in development for about as long as a Full Chapter. And since they don't have to recreate newbie areas, I expect it to be full of new content that starts at or near lvl 20.

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

18 Apr 2007 at 07:43 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega X

Why would you think that?

It costs less BECAUSE its an expansion, not because its going to have less content. All expansions by default are much cheaper because you have to buy a core game.

Example: Everquest II would be the normal $49.99 and all expansions would cost $39.99. And that's because it would normally require people to pick up the original core game first. (There currently is a deal right now that gives you the core game and all of the expansions for $39.99.)

GW:EN has been in development for about as long as a Full Chapter. And since they don't have to recreate newbie areas, I expect it to be full of new content that starts at or near lvl 20.

Well there are plenty of counterexamples too, like Lord of Destruction for Diablo II, Brood Wars for Starcraft, Tribunal and Bloodmoon for Morrowind and so on. All of those had a decent amount of content but they weren't as big as the original game.

Anyway, it's pure speculation at this point. I think they are being cautious about their wording at this point so that there won't be an influx of "But they promised!" comments later. I like to keep my expectations low until some more facts are released.

Bargamer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Rt/N

18 Apr 2007 at 08:15 - 76

Once people find out what carries over in the Hall of Monuments, will Anet allow people to "earn" them in the previous Chapters, and THEN "immortalize" them? Can we go back and forth? I can see "Monument-farming" happening in GWEN, and I have to say, I'm for it. I mean, suppose you were only a few (dozen) hours of farming/IDing for Gold Items before you could get the Max Title(s), but you REALLY wanted to see what your character would look like, RIGHT NOW? Suppose one of your alts doesn't HAVE any Titles, but they were your favorite character? (Hey, it could happen.)

Sjekster

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Disgruntled Clan Members

Mo/Me

18 Apr 2007 at 10:24 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by themeteor

sounded good overall and I hate to moan so early in a games development but "Sunspear and Lightbringer titles were well received." these are the things I hate most about Nightfall, I really hope they don't make us grind x amount of kills just to proceed to the next part of the game.

Jeez, what did you do, dodge all enemies or something? I just played the game normally, did all the quests, and those titles kept up nicely. Never did I have to grind excessively just to proceed in the game.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

18 Apr 2007 at 13:41 - 78

I just hope I can bring my mini-pets to GW2, got a nice collection, heh

Absinth187

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Some Like It Hot [sake]

18 Apr 2007 at 16:23 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFrost

Anyway, it's pure speculation at this point. I think they are being cautious about their wording at this point so that there won't be an influx of "But they promised!" comments later. I like to keep my expectations low until some more facts are released.

I wouldn't say it's pure speculation. The official GW wiki lists 18 dungeon levels in just the first act...and there's 3 acts.

Liberations

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Azeroth (shhh)

Ryders of the Sword [FrNd]

E/

18 Apr 2007 at 20:41 - 80

Everybody go to Gamespot right now and scroll down to the bottom on the main page: http://www.gamespot.com

It's #1!!! When was the last time a Guild Wars game was even on the top ten of anything on GameSpot? Occaisonally its in the "Coming Soon" section of PC at maybe above 5, but 1 overall in the whole site??? They didn't even generate that much hype! Sorry about me rambling on, just suprises me and makes me happier about Guild Wars as it is. Everyone go to gamespot and click on EotN, make its popularity rise! XD