Got scammed, it was only 2k atleast, I guess it was my fault too - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 22:49 - 1

I started buying unid golds for my Wisdom title.

One guy is selling 7 for 10k and I said sure. We opened trade and all of them were unided and I bought them.

Then he says, 2 more for 2k. I say sure, open trade window and trade it. I check they are gold and accept.

Then he says, 1 more for 3k. I tell him I got no more money, but he keeps asking me for a trade.

Meanwhile I start iding my items, only to realize that the last two items were already id'd. I open the next time he asks me for a trade, and the 3k (now down to 2k) bow was id'd too. Since the same guy had sold me 7 unid'd items for good before, I never suspected this.

But just be aware - for people who buy unid'd gold.

Its my fault too for not properly seeing that they were unid'd.

Good thing it was just 2k.

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

17 Apr 2007 at 22:56 - 2

Look BEFORE you buy!

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

17 Apr 2007 at 22:57 - 3

Now you know never trust anyone in the GW world lol, and always check your self first.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

17 Apr 2007 at 23:53 - 4

Guild Wars has taught me to never trust a anyone I meet online. Ever.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

18 Apr 2007 at 00:08 - 5

Dr Strangelove: it'sa lesson you would have learned sooner or later, GW or not.

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

18 Apr 2007 at 00:10 - 6

DTA

Don't Trust Anyone...

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

18 Apr 2007 at 01:10 - 7

I do not abide the do not trust anyone ever idea. Sure there are plenty of people you should never trust. Then there are that you can. Trust is always earned and never just taken for granted. I know who I can trust and that is no small thing.

*Alexiel*

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

England, and on here... http://alexiel-star.deviantart.com/

CPx

R/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 01:25 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by czymann

I do not abide the do not trust anyone ever idea. Sure there are plenty of people you should never trust. Then there are that you can. Trust is always earned and never just taken for granted. I know who I can trust and that is no small thing.

Agreed... I've been scammed in the past and come across many players that have indeed attempted, but I try not to treat every trading player I meet as a potential scammer cos that wouldn't be fair, not everyone is like that -_-

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 01:30 - 9

arnt those people saying 7 for 10 just bots anyways?

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

18 Apr 2007 at 01:38 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingKryton

arnt those people saying 7 for 10 just bots anyways?

Obviously not.

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

18 Apr 2007 at 01:39 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingKryton

arnt those people saying 7 for 10 just bots anyways?

probably the spamming is a bot... but i think a real person probably makes the actual trade to make sure the scammer doesn't get scammed

Kotetsu Rain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Utopia

D/

18 Apr 2007 at 05:44 - 12

It's probably because I"m pretty closed to what I buy and where I do it... but I've never been scammed. All my trades have been of equivalent and fair exchange.

Now if you want to talk about how many times I got scammed while running Droks...

thedeadwalk!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Atlantis

The Ocean [quay]

18 Apr 2007 at 06:16 - 13

I'm so paranoid about scams, I double check things I sell to make sure they're right. This comes from selling someone bleached carapaces when they wanted bleached shells; an honest mistake on my part. He informed me of my mistake but wouldn't let me correct it. I always felt bad about that even though it was just a few carapaces.

Whoever you are, I'm sorry.

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

18 Apr 2007 at 06:35 - 14

I've had them try that on me a few times, they often give you a few good items, and put a Ided gold armor inbetween them with the rune salvaged off, I just cancelt rade and ignore them right away.

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

18 Apr 2007 at 07:10 - 15

all i can say is... HAHA!

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

18 Apr 2007 at 10:49 - 16

Just be glad you weren't involved in a scam like this one from Eve Online.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 11:14 - 17

I know it's a matter of personal preference, but why buy anyway?

7 for 10k is 1400 per gold. 3 high end chests costs 1800 and will, on average, produce 1 gold. So on that basis you save 400 per gold.

But, have you considered....

> Opening the chests yourself builds you the Treasure Hunter title too, so you can combine the 3% salvage per level with the 3% you get from Wisdom and actually make a meaningful benefit.

> While you are opening the chests you are gathering loot, so it pays for itself.

> Treasure hunting can be combined with elite capping and Sunspear/LB farming.

> People selling the unID'd items may hold back the runes in case they are a Sup Vigor. If you open the chests yourself, you'll get a Sup Vigor once in a while, which is 30k or 50 keys-worth. I've opened about 600 chests and got 3 already (which is slightly ahead of the odds I admit).

> Open the chests yourself and you don't get scammed!

I guess I am finding it hard to understand why someone would want a title so much as to just sit in town burning money and buying other people's items rather than enjoying playing the game.

But like I say it's personal preference, and no-one asked my opinion anyway.

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

18 Apr 2007 at 11:16 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss1986v2

DTA

Don't Trust Anyone...

Something I learnt very quickly from going to University...

...I apply what I learnt whilst playing Guild Wars.

Unfortunately university taught me to be cynical and untrusting of anyone else's motives. My family now mistake this for grumpyness...when actually I'm just continually trying to cover my back.

When checking the contents of the trade window, just because the first few items are ok doesn't mean the last ones will be.

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Apr 2007 at 12:33 - 19

Kinda the same thing happened to me. Bought seven unid's, but they had already had the mods salvaged off of them. Almost made my money back selling them to the merchant...

Metalmaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Stars

N/

18 Apr 2007 at 13:30 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqual

3 high end chests costs 1800 and will, on average, produce 1 gold. So on that basis you save 400 per gold.

U forget about 2 grapes that usually give u 400 gold more

I completely share ur point btw.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 14:02 - 21

Good point above about the unID's on sale with all the mods stripped off. I get a whole load of perfect mods off the golds AND purples from the chests I open, and I share these with guildies and/or heroes and enjoy customising collector items to make new weapon-based builds.

Paying such money for 1400 for a gold which (due to the seller)

> Won't be a sup vigor rune
> Won't be req 8 or 9
> Will have the mods taken off
> Only the ugly skins

...means your chance of hitting the jackpot and getting that 30k-40k item is much reduced.

Plus by buying these items you are creating a market for bots... again, your choice, no-one asked my opinion etc.

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

18 Apr 2007 at 14:28 - 22

Time = Money. You can buy 7 golds MUCH faster than you can run 7-21+ chests. That's the only reason I would buy unIDs.

PS: Mods really don't matter, people are only buying them for the title.

TRUEgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Hampshire, USA

none

D/

18 Apr 2007 at 14:58 - 23

The beautiful thing about getting golds from chests instead of buying them for a set price each is that you can also work towards the treasure hunter title in the process.

You can't get treasure hunter points by buying and IDing golds.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

18 Apr 2007 at 15:13 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUEgamer

You can't get treasure hunter points by buying and IDing golds.

You can't get ten thousand rares from ten thousand chests either.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

18 Apr 2007 at 15:13 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Just be glad you weren't involved in a scam like this one from Eve Online.

Not to get too far off-topic, but here's a better explanation: http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/26703

I don't know Anet's offcial stance on "scams", but here it EVE's:

Quote:

"A scam is the act of obtaining goods from other players through misinformation, confusion, pressure or by taking advantage of basic trust. Players enter into business dealings with others at their own risk and are strongly urged to exercise good judgment and common sense when trading. Scams that relate to issues such as password scams or account theft scams are more serious and will result in an immediate ban."

So, it sounds like as long as your not stealing someone's account, you can do whatever you want in EVE.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

18 Apr 2007 at 15:24 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqual

Good point above about the unID's on sale with all the mods stripped off. I get a whole load of perfect mods off the golds AND purples from the chests I open, and I share these with guildies and/or heroes and enjoy customising collector items to make new weapon-based builds.

Paying such money for 1400 for a gold which (due to the seller)

> Won't be a sup vigor rune
> Won't be req 8 or 9
> Will have the mods taken off
> Only the ugly skins

...means your chance of hitting the jackpot and getting that 30k-40k item is much reduced.

Plus by buying these items you are creating a market for bots... again, your choice, no-one asked my opinion etc.

this isn't exactly true. all of the weapons I use for my characters and all of my heroes all came from buying unids while I worked on my wisdom title. these weapons include some great skins such as platinum wands, staves, celestial shields, storm bows, etc. I also got enough superior vigors to outfit 10 characters and their heroes with sup vigs. sure chances of getting these types of items are lowered since the items have already passed through someone else who probably tried to screen things out but you'll eventually get some good items.

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

18 Apr 2007 at 15:29 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artkin

Look BEFORE you buy!

Agreed! We've had 3546346887 topics about people being scammed. Making a topic won't Un-scam you.

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 15:45 - 28

K, I already said in the FIRST post that it was my fault too, but I am just warning others. I don't see why some people have a problem with that. Next time I see some scam on the horizon, I will just shut up. wtf.

And yeah, I do chest runs too (just started) but also buy unid'd golds as they are easy to get.

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

18 Apr 2007 at 16:05 - 29

Since this has gotten a little personal, and the scam is not particularly new, going to close this. Particularly since these kinds of threads of a history of turning sour, as did our 'official scam list' thread.

I suggest checking out Guild Wiki's segment on common scams if you're interested though.