Currently the main trade hubs are Kamadan, Kaineng center and Lions Arch because those are the first towns you see when you map between continents, so they have a higher thoroughfare. So that makes sense now.
However before factions (or the battle isles) came out I still remember Lions Arch being the main trade hub (if I remember wrongly let me know). But as there was no second continent to travel to I recently started wondering why it was the major trade hub then.
Does anyone have any ideas ?
Why was LA the trade hub before factions ?
bilateralrope
thelastwolf
First major town without level 1 nubs.
GloryFox
It was in the middle of the map and thus all trade?
MirageMaster
It was the biggest town in beta,LA of GW,nough said.
HawkofStorms
Well, Ammoon and Hedge were often skipped by runners and are kinda out of the way. Before Factions came out, Droks was also a major trading town (as the only city with max 1.5k armor). Droks used to have all the materials trade and a lot more people trading. Augury rock used to have all the farm bots in INT D1, but that transfered to Droks with the troll caves.
ctarl
(In Europe) Droknar's Forge was at least equal to Lion's Arch when it came to trade.
High-lvl items (ectos, shards, weapons) where more often traded in Droknar's, where you already were through a large part of the game and thus had a reasonable amont of money.
But sadly Droknar's lost that purpose with the release of Factions. It's now "too far off".
And I think LA was one of the main hubs because it was naturally one of the most populated major cities. Denravi never really had more than one district per region/language. Same goes for Amnoon. Ascalon was/is the first city after the tutorial and thus unsuitable for "high-lvl" trading.
So than left LA and Forge.
High-lvl items (ectos, shards, weapons) where more often traded in Droknar's, where you already were through a large part of the game and thus had a reasonable amont of money.
But sadly Droknar's lost that purpose with the release of Factions. It's now "too far off".
And I think LA was one of the main hubs because it was naturally one of the most populated major cities. Denravi never really had more than one district per region/language. Same goes for Amnoon. Ascalon was/is the first city after the tutorial and thus unsuitable for "high-lvl" trading.
So than left LA and Forge.
KamikazeChicken
The 3 major outposts in the Betas were Ascalon, LA, and ToA. LA was the major trading place with all of the worthwhile NPCs/Crafters, and ToA was basically the same as it is today. The use of LA transfered over at release and stuck.
Xiaxhou of Trinity
Ascalon was sort of a trade hub though on the lower end items. LA is the biggest town in prophecies, and i believe in all of the campaigns. Plus when mapping it's right down in the center how can you miss it lol.
Poison Ivy
Droknar's Forge and Deldrimor War Camp was the biggest trade hub actually...Lion's Arch was just full of overpriced junk, where you can see the guy spamming WTS WTS from a week ago doing the same thing a week later.
gamecube187
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Droknar's Forge and Deldrimor War Camp was the biggest trade hub actually...Lion's Arch was just full of overpriced junk, where you can see the guy spamming WTS WTS from a week ago doing the same thing a week later.
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//RogueNine
nicest looking major outpost?
savage vapor 33
Ascalon had to many guilds advertising, LA was the best place for selling because it was close to ToA, and semi close to droks to sell high end items.
ss1986v2
i never traded in LA pre-factions, always did my selling/buying in droks. LA has almost always been spammer capital of GW. even through factions, droks was still a good place to shop. but by the time nightfall came along, the population in droks had dropped a good bit.
i found the breakdown was usually:
Ascalon -> Low End Items & Guild Recruitment
LA -> Spam Capital of GW
Denravi -> Dead
Amnoon -> Dead
Droks -> Material Central, High End Items, Second City of Spam
ToA -> Ectos & Shards
Deldimor -> Greens
i found the breakdown was usually:
Ascalon -> Low End Items & Guild Recruitment
LA -> Spam Capital of GW
Denravi -> Dead
Amnoon -> Dead
Droks -> Material Central, High End Items, Second City of Spam
ToA -> Ectos & Shards
Deldimor -> Greens
Estic
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Originally Posted by ss1986v2
Ascalon -> Low End Items & Guild Recruitment
LA -> Spam Capital of GW Denravi -> Dead Amnoon -> Dead Droks -> Material Central, High End Items, Second City of Spam ToA -> Ectos & Shards Deldimor -> Greens |
LA had mostly overpriced junk (wts perfect purple fiery gladius of pruning whisper offer!!! No noobs pls). For serious items you dropped in at Droks (I remeber the weekend Totem Axes where added, made quite a lot of money in Droks those days).
Chunk
crap this thread is making me feel so old. Have over 3000 hrs and feel like the game is coming to an end. Im gonna go kill myself.
Elrodien
Droknars was the big trade centre pre-Factions. Ascalon was always pretty busy too but if you were buying anything of worth you usually went to Droknars to find it (on Euro-servers anyways). As other people have said, Lions Arch was pretty lame for trading before Factions came out. I guess because Lions Arch is a huge port, they had to choose it as the gateway into Tyria. Its not a place I would go to to buy anything right now though.
The Herbalizer
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Well, Ammoon and Hedge were often skipped by runners and are kinda out of the way. Before Factions came out, Droks was also a major trading town (as the only city with max 1.5k armor). Droks used to have all the materials trade and a lot more people trading. Augury rock used to have all the farm bots in INT D1, but that transfered to Droks with the troll caves.
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TOA used to be big for ecto and uw/fow items. Now I have to buy my ecto in Lions Arch which is waaay slower =(
Not sure about LA sucking before Factions came out. I made more nice trades than I ever have in that time. All my trades were in LA and I traded materials in Drok. I consistently had good deals there unlike after Factions when it got awful for power trading there. LA was great hence why virtually every old school power trader misses old days.
Miral
a few reasons...
its at the center of the map
its the city closest to the temple of ages
its a hub for runners to sanctum cay
its where you get signet of capture
it used to have a nice arena
and it used to be where you go to see guild halls
as well as being near the guild halls on the map.
its at the center of the map
its the city closest to the temple of ages
its a hub for runners to sanctum cay
its where you get signet of capture
it used to have a nice arena
and it used to be where you go to see guild halls
as well as being near the guild halls on the map.
Etta
Yeah back in the day, Drok was a place to be it was freaking nuts! Material selling, high end stuff, gold, green etc. 3-5 eng dis, of trade spam most night, and when you jump to int dis, man! the spams were so bad that it was funny.
Countless hours of freezing my butt off, from selling stuff there.
Countless hours of freezing my butt off, from selling stuff there.
Taala
Hah, pre-Factions days...
I remember actually trading in towns then, mostly in Droks and Ascalon. Reading that fast scrolling trade spam, checking what I could buy and sell. Then I started using the auction here in Guru and haven't bothered with trades in game ever since.
I remember actually trading in towns then, mostly in Droks and Ascalon. Reading that fast scrolling trade spam, checking what I could buy and sell. Then I started using the auction here in Guru and haven't bothered with trades in game ever since.
Onarik Amrak
Just 'cause.
mr_groovy
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Just 'cause.
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Anyhow I also found Droknars Forge to be more the trade capital, before Factions came out. Seems now that Kamadan d1 on Euro is very hot. Ascalon and Droks on Int are some how Asian trade channels now......
Zedd Kun
LA in Europe is not half as good to sell in as American.. Much less spam.. So I want a new account just for beeing in American LA since I've used all my swithces, and already wrote a mail to Anet..
Btw, I remember the Asian ppl in drok, they seem to be mostly gone now..
Btw, I remember the Asian ppl in drok, they seem to be mostly gone now..
Correct Jeans
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crap this thread is making me feel so old. Have over 3000 hrs and feel like the game is coming to an end. Im gonna go kill myself.
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Nekretaal
It wasnt. Droknar's forge was the main trade hub.
creelie
I remember seeing a lot of random trade spam in LA, but Droks was always my destination for buying and selling weapons. Most of the people there had at least a moderate amount of experience and money.
DreamCatcher
LA is also widely spaced and has all the merchants+traders and storage close to eachother which makes trading (and also lucky trades) and quick price check more convenient.
HoD is skipped a lot and (except for back then the +energy weapons) theres no real reason to ever go there.
Drok was always a good place mostly for materials as its -the- place for max armor so theres always demand for mats and also because runnees (from beacons) and regular players (coming from the desert) kinda converged there.
Just my 2g
HoD is skipped a lot and (except for back then the +energy weapons) theres no real reason to ever go there.
Drok was always a good place mostly for materials as its -the- place for max armor so theres always demand for mats and also because runnees (from beacons) and regular players (coming from the desert) kinda converged there.
Just my 2g
Onarik Amrak
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Anyhow I also found Droknars Forge to be more the trade capital, before Factions came out. Seems now that Kamadan d1 on Euro is very hot. Ascalon and Droks on Int are some how Asian trade channels now...... |
I was there for 10 minutes and I didn't see a single line of text in Trade! Me and a friend had a totally uninterrupted conversation in Trade chat, whilst All was totally unusable. There's a first for everything...
savage vapor 33
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i never traded in LA pre-factions, always did my selling/buying in droks. LA has almost always been spammer capital of GW. even through factions, droks was still a good place to shop. but by the time nightfall came along, the population in droks had dropped a good bit.
i found the breakdown was usually: Ascalon -> Low End Items & Guild Recruitment LA -> Spam Capital of GW Denravi -> Dead Amnoon -> Dead Droks -> Material Central, High End Items, Second City of Spam ToA -> Ectos & Shards Deldimor -> Greens |
Droks int. 1 was where you could get keys for about 450g each for chest runs back in the day. All the bot farmers would sell them for any price.
Good times.
Nemo the Capitalist
great thread yeah for PROPHS its LA
FACTIONS-KC
NIGHTFALL-Kamadan and 2 months into game scammers at Kodaash BAzaar for trade contracts hard to top that.
FACTIONS-KC
NIGHTFALL-Kamadan and 2 months into game scammers at Kodaash BAzaar for trade contracts hard to top that.
Dj Tano
Actually in the pre-factions days Droks was the place to be...
FeroxC
In ye good old days the trade posts were basically ranked on item quality:
Ascalon city - Rubbish gold items and non max stuff.
Lions arch - Slightly better golds but full of spam and 13 yr olds acting like idiots.
Droknars forge - Real trading you wanted your 15^50% req 8 gear this was the place to come.
Unfortunatly with the death of droks forge all the major trade towns have now turned into clones of LA with the added spam of minipets.
If you want any 100k + items you basically have to come to the forum and auctions here.
Ascalon city - Rubbish gold items and non max stuff.
Lions arch - Slightly better golds but full of spam and 13 yr olds acting like idiots.
Droknars forge - Real trading you wanted your 15^50% req 8 gear this was the place to come.
Unfortunatly with the death of droks forge all the major trade towns have now turned into clones of LA with the added spam of minipets.
If you want any 100k + items you basically have to come to the forum and auctions here.
jon0592
No, I think Ascalon and Droks were the most populated. LA was still a hub yes, but it was more high-end. ToA stayed the way it is from past > now.
I agree with ss, warcamp made me very rich
. Despite all the SS Tours, Camp Rankor was pretty empty. Most started from Droks instead (4/5 people at droks got ran there, so why not go to Rankor and look there?)
I agree with ss, warcamp made me very rich
. Despite all the SS Tours, Camp Rankor was pretty empty. Most started from Droks instead (4/5 people at droks got ran there, so why not go to Rankor and look there?)
Thorondor Port
Ascalon was huge when i first started... (xmas 05)
Griff Mon
There is something magical about Lion's Arch. Once you leave pre-searing, the landscape was barren, hostile, and generally hideous. Then the mountains, and they were not terribly appealing. Finally you get through Gates of Kryta and then the big bridge comes down and the NPC says--"Welcome to Lion's Arch!". First time, I was stunned. I felt like I arrived- but the game was just really getting rolling......
strcpy
It was also where you get your guild hall and the old guild hall used to sit right off the coast. So the easiest city to go to for full traders and such was there.
It is also the first place you can somewhat effectively farm. Fire imps, ettins, undead around bergin hot springs, and mergoyles are all usually the first things one learns to farm (and ettins are still a decent place for to include for crop rotation). Lions Arch is where you normally go to sell you goods - it usually does not take a map move to get to the traders.
It also has one of the most convenient layout for moving about. If I have to expand the map to go to a town for traders, LA is the best choice. Short run to the merchant's quarters from all the spawn points and the Xunlai Agents are close to the traders and merchant - it still takes pretty much the least running of *any* of the major towns.
And, lastly, its what the "old timers" got used too. People from Beta were used to that being a major hub, new players usually did most of their early trading there (for the above reasons), and now it is the town where you go when traveling between chapters. Though I rather suspect the reason it was chosen as the travel town had more to do with it being the major hub in Prophecies.
It is also the first place you can somewhat effectively farm. Fire imps, ettins, undead around bergin hot springs, and mergoyles are all usually the first things one learns to farm (and ettins are still a decent place for to include for crop rotation). Lions Arch is where you normally go to sell you goods - it usually does not take a map move to get to the traders.
It also has one of the most convenient layout for moving about. If I have to expand the map to go to a town for traders, LA is the best choice. Short run to the merchant's quarters from all the spawn points and the Xunlai Agents are close to the traders and merchant - it still takes pretty much the least running of *any* of the major towns.
And, lastly, its what the "old timers" got used too. People from Beta were used to that being a major hub, new players usually did most of their early trading there (for the above reasons), and now it is the town where you go when traveling between chapters. Though I rather suspect the reason it was chosen as the travel town had more to do with it being the major hub in Prophecies.
cyberjanet
Simple economics. It was the first place that people had money. Questing around Ascalon was not making anybody rich. I remember making 20k on the trip from Yak's Bend to Lion's Arch. It was awesome! My husband started playing then and I was able to give him 5k to equip his ele with armour and weapons on arrival in post-searing.
freekedoutfish
Simply because its easier and faster to get to then Droks.
Its also the first major city you reached, so alot of players instantly assume its the main one and became familiar with it.
LA was/is reachable by anyone as low as lvl10 so you can basically create a new character, leave pre-ascalon and run to LA and start trading straight away.
You cant do that with Droks, because its 3/4 way through the game and in a high end area.
So it has a higher % of players in it at all times, where as Droks is mostly full of lvl20 players.
Simple logic really.
But before Factions was relased, Droks was usually just as busy as LA. It was considered the trading area for more experienced players.
Its only since factions was released that less players use Droks, because travellers from other continents automatically go to LA.
Its also the first major city you reached, so alot of players instantly assume its the main one and became familiar with it.
LA was/is reachable by anyone as low as lvl10 so you can basically create a new character, leave pre-ascalon and run to LA and start trading straight away.
You cant do that with Droks, because its 3/4 way through the game and in a high end area.
So it has a higher % of players in it at all times, where as Droks is mostly full of lvl20 players.
Simple logic really.
But before Factions was relased, Droks was usually just as busy as LA. It was considered the trading area for more experienced players.
Its only since factions was released that less players use Droks, because travellers from other continents automatically go to LA.
Mr_Unlucky
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There is something magical about Lion's Arch. Once you leave pre-searing, the landscape was barren, hostile, and generally hideous. Then the mountains, and they were not terribly appealing. Finally you get through Gates of Kryta and then the big bridge comes down and the NPC says--"Welcome to Lion's Arch!". First time, I was stunned. I felt like I arrived- but the game was just really getting rolling......
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I think the sunny and happy atmosphere in LA makes it nice place to spam sell your stuff. Agreed that drogs have for somereason got the material trading place status. ss1986v2 sum it up nicely.
Jhadur
For the first 7-8 months of playing (started June 05) LA was the trade capitol of Tyria(euro eng districts). Then over the course of about 2 weeks all the trade switched to Droks for no real reason that I could see.
Droks used to be ok for selling/buying materials but LA was the first main trade centre of GW.
Droks used to be ok for selling/buying materials but LA was the first main trade centre of GW.