New Sunspear/Lightbringer Skills (Hard Mode)

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

From the official fact sheet:

Quote:
Advance your rank as a Sunspear, gaining powerful new skills tailored to your profession along the way.

Increase your might against the minions of Abaddon by progressing through the ranks of the Lightbringer title track.
Gaile announced in a past Dev Update that they would add new Sunspear and Lightbringer skills, and that the Sunspear skills in particular would help Mesmers in PvE. (supposedly...)

Might as well keep these PvE-only skills in the same topic to maintain Guru organization.

If you obtain one of these skills, post a picture of the skill-text and icon, and the rank obtained, if applicable.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

This thread was being derailed before Hard Mode had even been released, which is pretty bad. If you're wondering where your posts have gone, I shifted them here.
Can't merge threads, but I can move single posts in small amounts.

I'm closing this thread for now lest history repeat itself, to be re-opened as soon as able upon or close to the release of Hard Mode. At that time, I hope posts will be more on-topic and constructive.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I'd love to see some of these skills, but I'm not sifting through a 20 page thread just for that.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Apparently Castellians can't get them. Can Spearmarshals get them?

Because that sucks. I know what I'll be doing this weekend...

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

I have level 8 sunspear rank, i don't see a place to get any skills.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

My rank 8 LB guildie didn't notice any new skills.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

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According to the update notes no skills have been added as of yet and are planned to be introduced in the game in a coming update...

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emik
According to the update notes no skills have been added as of yet and are planned to be introduced in the game in a coming update...
Hmm. Meh. Apoligies.

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Added by Moderator: Comment that led to the second derailing of this thread removed.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emik
According to the update notes no skills have been added as of yet and are planned to be introduced in the game in a coming update...
That is correct. We're still testing the PvE-only skills -- shouldn't be long now!

Cyclades of Knossos

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

SNOW (GoW)

W/

Ah-ha, looking forward to them.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Gaile Gray
That is correct. We're still testing the PvE-only skills -- shouldn't be long now!
Great ... Loving the new update (EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF IT!)

btw will the new skills be class spacific or generic?

sevendash

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Flaming Turtles [FT]

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
That is correct. We're still testing the PvE-only skills -- shouldn't be long now!
Thanks for taking the time to make sure they are implemented right. Hard Mode is great, give our thanks to all of those who worked on it!

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Shouldn't be long now? Does that mean like this weekend?

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Gaile, how exactly are we gonna get those skills? Chantry of Secrets?

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

I wish they would at least tell us what they are. Unless they are in risk of changing completely? Curiousity is killin' me over here.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

The weekend update says we can gain lb and sp, in normal and hard mode. I can get sunspear in hard but not in normal (no place to get bounty so far, in normal). ???

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Shadis
I wish they would at least tell us what they are. Unless they are in risk of changing completely? Curiousity is killin' me over here.
It’s a well-known secret that the Mesmer can get the "Sunspear Signet of Super Leetness". This fast casting Signet will be so amazingly desirable that every PUG out there will want a real primary Mesmer in their party.

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior
The weekend update says we can gain lb and sp, in normal and hard mode. I can get sunspear in hard but not in normal (no place to get bounty so far, in normal). ???
You just get DOUBLE the points in Normal. It doesn't say you can get points if you've already gotten your normal mode cap.

Darth Kukulkan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/

Well "soon" means in about 1 week (or maybe 2) for Gaile :/
Hoping this time "soon" is REALLY soon

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Thanks, Bankai. I was afraid of that LOL. Oh well full group, 2 mm's 2 Fire Ele's and the hard mode mobs drop just like the rest.. (Ya gotta love a group of 28 :P 20 minions and 8 group members.)

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Great ... Loving the new update (EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF IT!)

btw will the new skills be class spacific or generic?
As far as I know, Gaile said they will be class specific (she said something along the lines of "What skills aren't class specific?"- even though this isn't entirely a great point, i get what she was saying).

Darth Kukulkan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
That is correct. We're still testing the PvE-only skills -- shouldn't be long now!
Just one thing, not 2 or even 3, no just one : lol at you

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
Just one thing, not 2 or even 3, no just one : lol at you
lol QFT~ once again false promises from Gaile, whether it be her fault or not, she said it. I'm honestly getting sick to death of heaing false information from her.

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Haha, I had almost forgotten that these were coming! Perhaps an update is in order? "Shouldn't be long now!" has kinda passed.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

"Shouldn't be long now" is not the same as "Won't be long now."
So how is her saying what she said a promise? They're testing the things out and doing their best to not introduce any broken crap and I'm glad they're taking their time to get it right.

Kas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Rough estimation of their arrival, judging from past "soon" updates: February 2008.

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

Perhaps they have higher priorities? Like fixing the anti-farm code that "doesn't exist" in hard mode?

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
"Shouldn't be long now" is not the same as "Won't be long now."
So how is her saying what she said a promise? They're testing the things out and doing their best to not introduce any broken crap and I'm glad they're taking their time to get it right.
The fact that these were said to be released with Hard Mode kinda makes you wonder just what is going on. Most of us would just like some update with real information on what's going on with these skills. The wait itself is secondary to being in the dark.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi Garett
Perhaps they have higher priorities? Like fixing the anti-farm code that "doesn't exist" in hard mode?
Hehe QFT.

New PvE-only Skill: Bypass al Anti-farming and Anti-botting codes for 20 minutes

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi Garett
Perhaps they have higher priorities? Like fixing the anti-farm code that "doesn't exist" in hard mode?
Take a wild guess where this supposed "anti-farming problems in hard mode" go on their list. It’s called the “round file.”

Anyways I would like to know if there is a problem or even an update to them saying “Well guys we are still trying to fix the new sunspear skills, making sure they are well prepared for your enjoyment.”

It does not take much to give an update on the situation.

Gamer6432

Gamer6432

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Cocolalla, ID

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Websters Dictionary:
Quote:
Pronunciation: 'sün, especially NewEng 'sun
Function: adverb
Etymology: Middle English soone, from Old English sOna; akin to Old High German sAn immediately
1 a (obsolete) : at once : IMMEDIATELY b : without undue time lapse : BEFORE LONG <soon after sunrise>
2 : in a prompt manner : SPEEDILY <as soon as possible> <the sooner the better> <no sooner said than done>
3 (archaic) : before the usual time
4 : in agreement with one's choice or preference : WILLINGLY <I'd just as soon walk as drive>
Just wondering what dictionary the staff at ArenaNet use?

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

These really must be some interesting skills, if it's taking an extra 2 months to balance 3 PvE skills per profession. PvE only! If they are terribly overpowered or underpowered, there's no real harm done, just a quick fix...let us test them already, please!

And also, to Anet - obviously the skills aren't going to be perfect when they come out...but please err on the side of them being underpowered, that way when you fix them, everyone can be happy about a buff, as opposed to being angry about a nerf.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

they are coming some time june they said..
stop getting angry about hw they havent aadded them yet. its up to them when they do.
i beleve on wiki it said someting about how its getting nearer

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Lol @ Anet. Ontime as always.

You think these skills will be ready in time for GWEN when we no longer need them anymore?

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

There is a great quote from a writer named Robert Jordan (okay, that isnt his real name just his public one) and it goes like this, "It will be released when it is finished." He is referring to a book, and the skills will be released when ANET is finished with them.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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I'm sorry, but the line works far better for Blizzard, as their product is definitely superior (Yes, even WoW. I don't play because of lore destruction).

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
There is a great quote from a writer named Robert Jordan (okay, that isnt his real name just his public one) and it goes like this, "It will be released when it is finished." He is referring to a book, and the skills will be released when ANET is finished with them.
Sadly that comment falls down when they've been given ETA's twice and we've seen nothing. I can only assume Robert didn't say the book would be ready in 2 months time and still be writing it 4 months later, because books can hardly have deadlines.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
There is a great quote from a writer named Robert Jordan (okay, that isnt his real name just his public one) and it goes like this, "It will be released when it is finished." He is referring to a book, and the skills will be released when ANET is finished with them.
You know what 'It will be released when it is finished' is the same quote often used by George Broussard.

Don't know who George Broussard is? He runs 3drealms, the company that did all the Duke Nukem games. This is regarding Duke Nukem Forever. It's taken them so long, they have completely lost their fan base.

The tie-in: HM was supposed to contain the Sunspear skills to make it more fun and viable for more people. Notice all the threads about how it's so difficult to find people for HM? You do the math.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
Well "soon" means in about 1 week (or maybe 2) for Gaile :/
Hoping this time "soon" is REALLY soon
Ha! Month and a half since Gaile stated that they're coming 'soon'.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

"Soon" as in, "As soon as everyone loses interest."