Ok guys I know we have alot of talented farmers out there, let get to work trying to save good olde fashion solo farming!
The 55 has survived nerfs before, and if we work together sharing ideas and builds it can survive again.
Now I should mention I'm talking about solo farming here, any class, just solo.
Any ideas?
CPR for farming!
Roshi_ikkyu
Puran Lighthart
solo chestrun.......
manitoba1073
its not the builds that have been nerfed. its the game its self was nerfed.
Roshi_ikkyu
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
its not the builds that have been nerfed. its the game its self was nerfed.
Your right we should all just give up and stop farming
So what if they just added an update that made old areas more profitable.
How about we can the self defeatist Att. and start comeing up with ideas and solutions!
So what if they just added an update that made old areas more profitable.
How about we can the self defeatist Att. and start comeing up with ideas and solutions!
Roshi_ikkyu
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Originally Posted by Puran Lighthart
solo chestrun.......
Yes, good idea, doing it now or rather attempting it in some places. I guess next event we'll see alot of farmers going for lucky titles (doesn't that effect the new lock picks)
Splatter Mcnasty
the update says that loot drops scale by party size...the answer should be simple.
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range...
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range...
ArKaiN
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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty
the update says that loot drops scale by party size...the answer should be simple.
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range... I don't think this works. I mean, if they mean to change the drops to make a more party-oriented game, I *think* they'd make it so flagging herohenchies affected solo drops. Just stands to reason.
Edit - Yep, I'm right. Apparently the game checks who's "closeby" or "in the area" when he rolls the drops on monsters being killed. Makes no difference if you go in alone or if you flag the party away,
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range... I don't think this works. I mean, if they mean to change the drops to make a more party-oriented game, I *think* they'd make it so flagging herohenchies affected solo drops. Just stands to reason.
Edit - Yep, I'm right. Apparently the game checks who's "closeby" or "in the area" when he rolls the drops on monsters being killed. Makes no difference if you go in alone or if you flag the party away,
genoem
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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty
the update says that loot drops scale by party size...the answer should be simple.
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range... I'm still at work so can't test it yet. Anyone checked if it works? It used to before todays update.
Take a full party of henchies and flag them at the zone entrance, then go kill everything out of radar range and you should get the full loot drop. You'll be splitting your gold with the henchies, but in theory, the quantity of items should drop for the full party, but all assigned to you since the henchies are out of range... I'm still at work so can't test it yet. Anyone checked if it works? It used to before todays update.
buzzerman
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Originally Posted by genoem
I'm still at work so can't test it yet. Anyone checked if it works? It used to before todays update.
I tried, it doesn't work. If they're greyed out, loot will be dropping as if you're alone in the party (solo). If they're not greyed out, they will "take" some of the loot that you'll never see. Either way you get waaaay fewer drops than before.
Solo farming was nerfed, clearly.
The whole idea of scaling loot accordingl to the [active] party size is completely nonsensical.. What is the logic there -- the SAME monsters now empty their pockets before fighting you, when they see you alone, just to spite your solo heroism ?!
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Solo farming was nerfed, clearly.
The whole idea of scaling loot accordingl to the [active] party size is completely nonsensical.. What is the logic there -- the SAME monsters now empty their pockets before fighting you, when they see you alone, just to spite your solo heroism ?!
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Roshi_ikkyu
So farming if you want quick easy profit just means group farming.... Not such a bad thing!
Phenixfire
ohmy, another of those threads ...
ok, to the ones 'working on new builds':
you may certainly be ppl who have great insight into the game, and lots of time on your hands to come up with builds, but now lets take a look at uw:
a rit can complete a run in like 12 mins ( smite run), idk about an ele, maybe he's at 9-10 mins. drops were 1 per monster, fine before the update.
now you state 'OmFg stOp whInIng wE have tO FaRm 8 TiMeS As FaSt'
hm, so well, i guess 8 times as fast as a uw run now is like 2 mins per run... stating alone running from group to group and pulling takea about a min... well, 2mins, well done ...
or just take another farm run that takes from 5-15 mins ... to get the same drops ( if we presume it's now 1/8th of the pervious drops), one would need to do 8 runs -> 40mins-2h....
ok, farm 8 times faster again ... even two times faster is still 20mins-1h .. and i massively doubt ppl can greatly gain time in the runs that are around today... they are rlly fast, a time gain of 5mins on those runs ( a 10mins run -> twice as fast) would alrdy pwn everything ^^
so here's your conclusion: accept that you will get way less drops, way smaller chances on nice items/mats, i.e., preconditioned you spend the same time farming as before the update, you will become richer 8 times slower.
1. Either spend more time farming to gain the same amount
2. Be happy with the 1/8th
3. Stop farming
i dont like the update either, but thats the way it is... farming doesnt pay off as it did before - which is in no way a matter of builds, it'S in the game itself ( suggesting a 'Hack anet servers thread' nxt ...).
so imo stop with your 'New age farming' 'get your heads together' and 'we will overcome this too' threads ... this time, its rlly beyond your capability
(Btw, the whole post is written under the precondition that the chance on rare stuff remains the same)
ok, to the ones 'working on new builds':
you may certainly be ppl who have great insight into the game, and lots of time on your hands to come up with builds, but now lets take a look at uw:
a rit can complete a run in like 12 mins ( smite run), idk about an ele, maybe he's at 9-10 mins. drops were 1 per monster, fine before the update.
now you state 'OmFg stOp whInIng wE have tO FaRm 8 TiMeS As FaSt'
hm, so well, i guess 8 times as fast as a uw run now is like 2 mins per run... stating alone running from group to group and pulling takea about a min... well, 2mins, well done ...
or just take another farm run that takes from 5-15 mins ... to get the same drops ( if we presume it's now 1/8th of the pervious drops), one would need to do 8 runs -> 40mins-2h....
ok, farm 8 times faster again ... even two times faster is still 20mins-1h .. and i massively doubt ppl can greatly gain time in the runs that are around today... they are rlly fast, a time gain of 5mins on those runs ( a 10mins run -> twice as fast) would alrdy pwn everything ^^
so here's your conclusion: accept that you will get way less drops, way smaller chances on nice items/mats, i.e., preconditioned you spend the same time farming as before the update, you will become richer 8 times slower.
1. Either spend more time farming to gain the same amount
2. Be happy with the 1/8th
3. Stop farming
i dont like the update either, but thats the way it is... farming doesnt pay off as it did before - which is in no way a matter of builds, it'S in the game itself ( suggesting a 'Hack anet servers thread' nxt ...).
so imo stop with your 'New age farming' 'get your heads together' and 'we will overcome this too' threads ... this time, its rlly beyond your capability
(Btw, the whole post is written under the precondition that the chance on rare stuff remains the same)
krypt1200
Well, there is much negativity, because people cant accept change. But I like it. EVERYONE has to play together more, which brings it to a more team oriented type of game. Soloing is nerfed, but who cares, go out with a full group, and you all get the same chance of drops, its not like the hardcore soloers are going to be the rich above all thing anymore, since you have to go w/ a group. I think its gonna be fun.
CHESTRUN HARD MODE.
Nuff said, currently have 400 lockpicks ready for the weekend
CHESTRUN HARD MODE.
Nuff said, currently have 400 lockpicks ready for the weekend
Lest121
Phenixfire LOOT means everything has been Nerf, Anet has turned a 5k Green weapon into a 10k.
Roshi_ikkyu
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Originally Posted by Phenixfire
ok, to the ones 'working on new builds':
you may certainly be ppl who have great insight into the game, and lots of time on your hands to come up with builds, but now lets take a look at uw:
a rit can complete a run in like 12 mins ( smite run), idk about an ele, maybe he's at 9-10 mins. drops were 1 per monster, fine before the update.
now you state 'OmFg stOp whInIng wE have tO FaRm 8 TiMeS As FaSt'
hm, so well, i guess 8 times as fast as a uw run now is like 2 mins per run... stating alone running from group to group and pulling takea about a min... well, 2mins, well done ...
or just take another farm run that takes from 5-15 mins ... to get the same drops ( if we presume it's now 1/8th of the pervious drops), one would need to do 8 runs -> 40mins-2h....
ok, farm 8 times faster again ... even two times faster is still 20mins-1h .. and i massively doubt ppl can greatly gain time in the runs that are around today... they are rlly fast, a time gain of 5mins on those runs ( a 10mins run -> twice as fast) would alrdy pwn everything ^^
so here's your conclusion: accept that you will get way less drops, way smaller chances on nice items/mats, i.e., preconditioned you spend the same time farming as before the update, you will become richer 8 times slower.
1. Either spend more time farming to gain the same amount
2. Be happy with the 1/8th
3. Stop farming
i dont like the update either, but thats the way it is... farming doesnt pay off as it did before - which is in no way a matter of builds, it'S in the game itself ( suggesting a 'Hack anet servers thread' nxt ...).
so imo stop with your 'New age farming' 'get your heads together' and 'we will overcome this too' threads ... this time, its rlly beyond your capability
(Btw, the whole post is written under the precondition that the chance on rare stuff remains the same)
Your right we should stop farming. except that hard mode now means better loot drops!
Sure so gold farming may be harder, green items may be harder, and the only quick easy cash is now from group farming.
But I made 20k soloing old ascalon only twice.
There are places out there waiting for the right build in hard mode to IMPROVE the odds alittle.
and if you think...
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imo stop with your 'New age farming' 'get your heads together' and 'we will overcome this too' threads
Why post in just such a thread! By the way hard mode increase the rarity of drops!
King's Spectre
I guess we should be looking at 4-hero power clearing builds. Or blasting though the UW with 8 Rt/W builds.
pnumm
Best way to make money should be 8 man parties that clear out stuff fast, preferrably in hard mode. (B/P anyone?)
Str0b0
Flagging doesn't work. I believe the drop ratio is linked to radar range. I think the key thing to remember here though is that all this update did was increase the rarity of items. This will cause a price increase meaning you can still solo farm at the gimped drop rates and expect a reasonable ROI on time spent because you can sell the viable items for more. The elite areas will be unaffected since soloing them is not viable so elite area rare skins and greens should remain constant. Now rare skins like dead swords and elemental swords that are not tied to an elite area will go up in price. Elemental swords, with the standard "perfect" mods, will probably double or even triple in price. The B/P group will be one of the better ways to net ecto drops in Tombs. I think four and five man trap teams in UW proper will still be viable.
Roshi_ikkyu
Anet released another update, certain item are now exempt from loot scaling
o Skill Tomes o Scrolls o Dye o Rare materials, such as Ectoplasm o Gemstones from the Domain of Anguish o All other rare (gold) items o All unique (green) items o Special event items
Xiaxhou of Trinity
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
Flagging doesn't work. I believe the drop ratio is linked to radar range. I think the key thing to remember here though is that all this update did was increase the rarity of items. This will cause a price increase meaning you can still solo farm at the gimped drop rates and expect a reasonable ROI on time spent because you can sell the viable items for more. The elite areas will be unaffected since soloing them is not viable so elite area rare skins and greens should remain constant. Now rare skins like dead swords and elemental swords that are not tied to an elite area will go up in price. Elemental swords, with the standard "perfect" mods, will probably double or even triple in price. The B/P group will be one of the better ways to net ecto drops in Tombs. I think four and five man trap teams in UW proper will still be viable.
your point is made based off the fact that there is more than enough cash to go around. Anet has just made items rarer, they're trying to control inflation. Sure you got a 100k++ item while farming (grps or no grps). Well in a few months (or many months, seeing as a bunch of people stacked up on cash and just let it sit around, it might take longer for all the cash in game to burn out) I question whether there will be many people with 100k++. Point, maybe 100k++ will equal 50k in time. But meh maybe it's just anet's age old dream eh?
madman24749
I'm blaming most of this on the bots. . .
They farmed too much and overflowed the game with too much friggin gold! The only thing I'm happy about at the moment is that they are mostly screwed 
Roshi_ikkyu
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Originally Posted by madman24749
I'm blaming most of this on the bots. . .
They farmed too much and overflowed the game with too much friggin gold! The only thing I'm happy about at the moment is that they are mostly screwed
shows how much u know about bots!They don't farm for gold, they don't farm for the uber weapons, they farm for collector items and basic drops! 10 machines running at the same time, farming the same area nets alot of collector items, 50g+ basic armours, dyes and other crap 50g items. Just like everyone is blaming ecto on bot... idiots bots farm crap, the only good thing is the do it without human involvement and 24/7 |
