Picklocks, % and opportunity to use them - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

20 Apr 2007 at 18:08 - 41

Quote:

Why carry a dozen different keys when a lockpick can do the trick?

Quote:

Lockpicks aren't perfect, though; they may break.

This defeats the purpose of not carrying a ton of keys, good going you just traded in x amount of buying keys for x amount of buying lock picks for 1500gp. Thanks for blowing sun shine up people *** making them think lock picks are a better investment over just buying keys.

Again the lock on the chest, or chest itself should have broke making getting the item inside not possible not the lock pick.

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Treasure Hunter and Lucky title tracks will increase both the chance that the lockpick will work,

This has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever to come out of a game, two different tracks one account based the other is not. Secondly has anyone test to see if a successful lock pick adds points to these two tracks?If it doesn’t what good is lock picks.

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

20 Apr 2007 at 18:17 - 42

every chest u open with a lockpick, regardless if u retain or destroy it, gives u +1in the chestrun title, nothing in the lucky/unlucky ones

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

20 Apr 2007 at 18:21 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

If it doesn’t what good is lock picks.

Hmm, I don't know. Maybe opening Locked Chests in Hard Mode?!?!

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

20 Apr 2007 at 18:26 - 44

shoudl be interesting if you;ve got really high lucky titles ....probably wont break in a long time.

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

20 Apr 2007 at 19:17 - 45

Out of 5 chests 3 broke with no lucky title. I got a gold hammer 2 gold earth staffs with one being an insightful energy +5. a superior axe rune and another purple earth staff. I spent like 10k on keys and see nothing of major value in return as of yet. I only done the Northern Wall to Ruins of Surmia missions so far so who knows how much better the chests get.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

20 Apr 2007 at 19:21 - 46

This lock picking system reminded me of the one in Oblivion. Hope there is a skeleton key out there that won't break when you use it!

darkorical

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

In the forgotten corners of your mind where the nightmare things live

Biscuit Of Dewm

E/Mo

20 Apr 2007 at 19:40 - 47

well ... I swear I searched for a trhead regaurding this topic ... and since I coudlnt find one I made my own .. and now I cant find mine (too many damn boards) if I cant find it I will edit this post to include my thoughts

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

20 Apr 2007 at 19:54 - 48

With anything new, it doesn't pay to be first in line. Me, I'll give all this a couple of weeks before I pay it much attention, lockpicks and such.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

20 Apr 2007 at 20:44 - 49

For something that is such a gold sink, I like how it has it's benefits now.

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

W/

20 Apr 2007 at 20:46 - 50

FYI: Chest drops in HM are still relative to the area you are in...
So opening chests in the earlier missions will most likely not be as productive as opening the ones in the later stages of the game.

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

20 Apr 2007 at 20:50 - 51

High end chests? What is the chance you find an item worth 1.5 k or more? Given the huge chances to break the lockpick, by the time you find a decent item you probably lost 15k - 30k on lockpicks. When I read about lockpicks I was thinking of a bundle of cheap picks that would hardly break at all with high level skills. The way its now its even worse than buying keys...

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

20 Apr 2007 at 20:55 - 52

these lock picks suck. i opened a chest in Northern Wall in HM, got a NON-MAX DMG Grape Staff...i mean wtf, pay 1500 for a key, and merch it for 78? Ridiculous.

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

20 Apr 2007 at 20:56 - 53

these lock picks suck. i opened a chest in Northern Wall in HM, got a NON-MAX DMG Grape Staff...i mean wtf, pay 1500 for a key, and merch it for 78? Ridiculous.

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

20 Apr 2007 at 21:50 - 54

Wow...lock pics suck.

Maybe have different lock picks for different level chests.

Craer Delnbone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The last best place.

The Keepers Of The Sacred Word [Ni]

25 Apr 2007 at 16:31 - 55

I've used 10 lockpicks so far and every one of them broke on the first use.

I agree that they are way overpriced and break too easily, but my first item pulled from a chest in the Mirror of Lyss was a Shocking Azure Recurve Bow of Fortitude Req. 9.

Since that first chest, all the items have sucked. Especially the non-max grape hammer out of Grenth's Footpring in Hard Mode.

Red-Tide

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edmonton, Canada

[Liar]

Mo/

25 Apr 2007 at 17:03 - 56

Im up to 68 used and of those 63 have broken first attempt. According to the dialogue window I have a 19% to retain them but if I do the math on that I should have retained 14 of the picks. I know it's a percentage chance but right now it's not working in my favor

Nice of Anet to add yet another goldsink, esp in conjunction with the solo nerf ...

Only good items I received from all those chests

Sup Death Magic
Req 9 Ivory Bow (crap mods)
4 Elite Tomes

Rest were req 12 & 13 bunk items...

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

25 Apr 2007 at 17:04 - 57

I'm havign a rough time judging this, I have bought about 5 lockpicks, and only one of them didnt break first time, of them one was purple and I havent had a fantastic drop from the chest of them.

I have 20% chance of the pick not breaking

However on the up side of this i have had about 10 lockpicks drop while doing a map, and 3 of them didn't break first time, one actual lasted three attempts!

But that one produced 2 gold armours, Superior Illussion and Hammer Mastery, and 1 elite necromancer tome , so once salvaged I have 2 25g runes, and 1 armour destroyed. The price of runes has came down terribly. This was from Vabbi when i was farming the lightbringer title

Over all the percentage, no matter where you are, is awful, it should be a lot higher. The effects of having these absurdly expensive and time consuming titles on it is negligible.

The basis of the idea is great it just doesn't seem very worthwhile in implementation. Though the drops of the picks seems quite high in the desolation. Oh and the two armnours i got didnt even have insignia on them!

Hopefully the devs will notice this and change it for the better, but as it is at least im gettign more to a title i had stoped concentrating on recently

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

25 Apr 2007 at 17:22 - 58

Just used up 10 Lockpick on Xaquang Skyway.I was looking for Celestia weapon.
And sure found 2 gold celestia weapons but both of them are over req10 or imperfect.
Found a + 30 HP sword pommel which end up in gold for the price of lockpicks.
Conclusion lockpicks still stink for non-Elona items.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

25 Apr 2007 at 17:35 - 59

Lockpicks are the equivalent of high-end keys that have a chance of not breaking. If you've used high-end keys, these are better. If you can't bring yourself to pay 1.5K for a key, then these are not for you.

They're just keys that might not get destroyed when you use them. A 1 in 5 chance of retention beats the hell out of a 0 in 5 chance.

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

25 Apr 2007 at 17:55 - 60

Well I just use my lockpicks in the FoW and DoA. I think its great because I dont need to purchase 2 types of keys now. Also because of the *rare* chance of the pick not breaking I believe that its a great investment and saves lots of time and money.

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

25 Apr 2007 at 18:36 - 61

I was kind of disappointed in the lock picks too. The items in the chests seem to be the same as normal mode.(from my limited experience) but the price of the pick is elite key price. kinda.. idunno.. crappy. Although I could just have bad luck.

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

26 Apr 2007 at 00:26 - 62

Advanced Treasure Hunter (3)
Lucky (0)

19%.

This is stupid. The most a lockpick has ever lasted was 2 chests.

It needs a slight tweak on the %. Sure if you have Treasure Hunter (6) it might be 89% to keep it, but how many R6 are out there?

Socrates The Mauler

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/Mo

26 Apr 2007 at 01:07 - 63

Treasure 1 Luck none.

Farming ettins in hard mode around griffins mouth/scoundrels rise

13% breakage. chest drops purple. lockpick broke. Just left it on the ground.

Chests in hard mode need to be guaranteed to be gold and max, otherwise I could have bought 2 darkstone keys and saved 300 gold for a purple item

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

26 Apr 2007 at 02:01 - 64

lucky 2....treasure 5....

having GREAT luck with the picks...sold all my other keys off

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

26 Apr 2007 at 02:07 - 65

I think I understand the principles behind the lockpicks now and I agree that it is a good idea to put percentages on them, but what I find to be borderline absurd and just plain retarded is that the percentages are based on titles that even the moderately casual player cannot hope to improve.

My most played character is my ranger who has only opened 35 chests and I only have Prophecies so my limited understanding of the Lucky title is that I only have limited opportunities during Wintersday to do anything with the Lucky title?

And basically, you have to spend and absolute ridiculous amount of f--king money just to even try to raise your treasure hunter and lucky titles to improve your chances with the lockpicks. I'm dissappointed that this new lockpick system really caters to those that go to the extremes of gaining those titles and leaves the rest of us more casual gamers to sit there picking our nose because we have no desire to spend countless gold and time wasting away gaining these titles just so we can have a better chance with the lockpicks. Boo Anet....booo!

Legion Magnus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Legion Magnus

W/

26 Apr 2007 at 02:07 - 66

My experiences so far:

Advanced Treasure Hunter Lvl 3
Lucky Lvl 0 (unlucky really

)

Out of 10 Lockpicks used: 8 purple, 2 Gold (one use was a keyed chest)

and I've only had one Lockpick that did not break on first use ...

I'd use them more (I like the idea) but doesn't seem worth the money to me so far.

ANet, lower the price, increase the LP survivability chance, or both

ichigo_panty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]

26 Apr 2007 at 02:34 - 67

Why doesn't the unlucky title cancel out the lucky title.

Treasure Lv4
Luck Lv2

Opened 120 chests, only 17 were retained.
The first 13 were all golds, then came the purple. Can you believe it!!! 26 purple straight!. I do not know where Anet like me or hates me.

70% of my drops were purple!

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

26 Apr 2007 at 02:34 - 68

you SHOULD earn lucky pts when a successful opening is made!!!

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

26 Apr 2007 at 03:18 - 69

You should seriously get 1,000 lucky points for successfully retaining a key. That may seem like a lot at first (people were suggesting ONE point for each success!) but considering the first tier of lucky is like 50,000 points, and it will take a damn long time to even get 50 successes, 1,000 seems like a good number. I have around 475 chests open on my character, and still only have like an 18% chance...and yeah, the chests are terrible, the golds are no better than what you get in normal mode, and the drop rate, at least for me, has been more purps in hard mode than normal.

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

26 Apr 2007 at 03:30 - 70

Lockpicks for me are like keys. If one drops, fine. If not, I'm not going to pay for one.

Since HM began, I think I've had one lockpick drop, that yielded only junk from a chest in HM. Probably merch any others I find.

Lord Jerhyn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Wu Dynasty Warriors [WU]

W/

27 Apr 2007 at 01:48 - 71

well if u think of it this way, Obsidian Keys used to be 1.5k and NO chance of retaining them, people were fine with that. Now that there IS a chance to retain the lock picks but ur just unlucky enough that u dont and you all start moaning and complaining. Theres a simple answer... dont buy them then.

Now, with my experience they have been quite good and in my friends was very good, (he found a req 9 tactics +30 health -5(19%) skull shield in Ascalon) i have also found some pretty good gear aswell, many runes.

I think the lockpicks are a great idea but i do agree that they are too heavily dependant on the Titles, and if thats not going to get fixed then i agree with the person who said u should get 1,000 points towards Lucky Title on a successful retaining of a Lockpick.

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

27 Apr 2007 at 04:57 - 72

i like 'em just fine as they are, r4 lucky and r3 chest here. been working out great.. 27% chance. I retain 'em a lot.

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

27 Apr 2007 at 05:39 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Jerhyn

well if u think of it this way, Obsidian Keys used to be 1.5k and NO chance of retaining them, people were fine with that.

I have to take issue with that. For many, the whole key cost situation has never been fine. The issue for me is that lockpicks are more of the same with (apparently) a minor bonus for title holders.

I was never happy with keys and have no interest in pursuing titles, so AFAIC, lockpicks are a complete waste of my time.

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

27 Apr 2007 at 06:16 - 74

Wait... I thought Lockpicks always unleashed a Gold from a chest in Hard Mode...

Is this a glitch, perhaps? If not, then Lockpicks really do need a fix... The addition of 250 Lucky and 25 Unlucky is great, however.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

27 Apr 2007 at 06:30 - 75

W T B: Tetraneutrino Heavy Water Fusion Laser to pen chests. Chance of failure, 0%. Chance of becoming unstable and destroying an entire 3 block radius, 73.5%.

MerLock

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

27 Apr 2007 at 07:16 - 76

Do you get more efficient in lock picking after picking locks?

Milennin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Europe

W/

27 Apr 2007 at 08:37 - 77

1.5K is a good price. Usually what I get from selling the items after doing a mission.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

Don't buy them in a few hours I've had 2 lockpick drop which I've used to open 2 chests.
I would love keys to drop as much as the lock picks are.

Yeah, right. Lockpicks don't drop often; I've played for several hours, doing missions in hard-mode and Vanquished one area with over 200 enemies and haven't had a Lockpick drop.=|

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

27 Apr 2007 at 10:35 - 78

Good things about this update that I can use lockpicks to get some lucky title on my Tresaure hunter charactor on normal mode.I got about 40% to retain lockpick on that guy.