Please UnNerf "Solo" skills + Other Issues - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

21 Apr 2007 at 01:13 - 1

Ok Anet if you're going to leave this 1/8th drops the way it is and kill solo farming please undo some of the previous changes you made to deter solo farming:

Remove all Dying Nightmares from UW. These were only put there to demote solo farming. They are just an annoyance at this point and serve no valid purpose.
Restore Protective Bond to a useable form. You've nerfed this into oblivion, again only to deter solo farmers because this was not a widely used PvP skill. Please put it back to the way it was.
Restore Bathazar's Aura back to a useable form. It should last 10 seconds like before, and it should have a 10 second recharge. Not sure how this would affect PvP, but I don't see alot of smite builds anyhow...
Put the griffons back outside Augury Rock

I know there's much more, but here's a start...

Please reply with anything else you guys can think of...

ischuros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

N/Me

21 Apr 2007 at 01:16 - 2

/signed

Solo farming has been nerfed, why have the skills and areas nerfed aswell when the problem is 'sorted'. Just takes away more from the game.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

21 Apr 2007 at 01:22 - 3

/signed

Also, please revert Guild Wars to a game which does not revolve around enchantment-hate and interrupting. Everywhere we go enchantments are stripped and interrupts are spammed.

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

21 Apr 2007 at 01:27 - 4

/signed

Solo-farming is over BUT *grabs axe* TEAM FARMING HAS JUST BEGUN!

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

21 Apr 2007 at 01:36 - 5

Getting rid of the nightmares is fine by me

/signed on _that_

Balth Aura at those specs would be rediculous for PvP. Smites get played though not as much as they used to, but they spent a lot of time nerfing smite skills to where they are now. Balth like that is just nuts. Sorry.

I like the queen outside augry more than some random grifs. A unique boss is better than a few more random griffons.

So \NOT signed on those 2

Prot Bond I don't know

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

21 Apr 2007 at 01:36 - 6

Please, my ass. Fix your screwup ANET.

KANE

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

21 Apr 2007 at 01:42 - 7

Balth Aura is just fine atm, any stronger and we get more brainless smite flooding every format.

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

21 Apr 2007 at 01:46 - 8

/signed just for kicks. Because it's not going to happen.

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

21 Apr 2007 at 03:03 - 9

Definately not going to happen. I wish they'd unnerf prot bond, it's fun to use on a bonder as well

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

21 Apr 2007 at 03:10 - 10

Forget protective bond. Spirit bond is much better while it lasted.

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

21 Apr 2007 at 03:17 - 11

Wrong forum.

But besides that, I agree.

Dark Paladin X

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

A/

21 Apr 2007 at 03:22 - 12

/signed

Fair and balanced.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

21 Apr 2007 at 03:26 - 13

/signed since I'm free to dream. This will not happen of course.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

21 Apr 2007 at 03:27 - 14

/signed, except balths aura like that would be insane in PvP. Really, it would be simpler to un-do loot scaling and leave the clocked back normal mode AI to make it able to farm again. Really, all the last AoE nerf did (I'm talking about the one that made meleers run, not the OLD one) was make it harder for the casual player to farm; the chinese bots still got around it. In most situations, the casual player can still farm, it is just way harder. The AoE update was worthless, and supposedly (I haven't tried yet) they removed it completely in this update, although the word phrasing sounds more like a not-complete removal.

Dubby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/

21 Apr 2007 at 03:56 - 15

As several have already said, this is just not going to happen. If you want to solo farm, go look up builds, there's plenty that still do a perfectly fine job of it, even in UW.

OhCrapLions

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ivalice

D/P

21 Apr 2007 at 03:57 - 16

/notsigned

the more important and goal items of faming (ectos, shards and the new tomes) are exempt from the loot drop scaling.

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

21 Apr 2007 at 04:59 - 17

Yeah I guess this doesn't apply anymore since the semi-unnerfed solo farming.

My suggestion for Bath's Aura was to put it back the way it was before. Not 100% my suggestion was the way it was, but that's how I remembered it being.

Prot bond needs something to be done.

Guess the DM's are here to stay.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

21 Apr 2007 at 11:57 - 18

It seems Anet surrendered:
Loot Changes

* Adjusted the following items so that they are now exempt from loot scaling:
o Skill Tomes
o Scrolls
o Dye
o Rare materials, such as Ectoplasm
o Gemstones from the Domain of Anguish
o All other rare (gold) items
o All unique (green) items
o Special event items

So they should stay as they are.

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

21 Apr 2007 at 21:03 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeviGarrett

Remove all Dying Nightmares from UW. These were only put there to demote solo farming. They are just an annoyance at this point and serve no valid purpose.
Restore Bathazar's Aura back to a useable form. It should last 10 seconds like before, and it should have a 10 second recharge. Not sure how this would affect PvP, but I don't see alot of smite builds anyhow...

Ecto's still drop normally, so unless you're farming UW for the piles of glittering dust you're not affected at all.
You know why? Because Balthazar's Aura doesn't last 10 seconds on a 10 second recharge. And people do use smiting. They actually use Balthazar's Aura with Extend Enchantments.

Mr_Cynical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Region of Chosen Kings [R.O.C.K]

E/Mo

21 Apr 2007 at 21:17 - 20

/signed

No substantial drops via solo farming = no need to make solo farming difficult. Let non-trappers enjoy the Underworld.

LeetScythemaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Dragonslayers of Ascalon

D/Mo

22 Apr 2007 at 04:23 - 21

/signed

Ok, this is my first post and I need to vent badly

. This new loot sytem is ridiculous. I was just out messing around in arkjok ward in hard mode where i killed about 30 insects and several tusked howlers, just guess how many drops i received....TIME'S UP!! The answer is 3..a half digested armor, a insect carapace, and a crappy not-even-close-to-max blue scythe. How ridiculous is that?! I don't know, I think I'm going to take a long break from Guild Wars if they don't do something about this very very major problem

.

Jwh6913

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Death Infernal Evil

Mo/R

22 Apr 2007 at 04:28 - 22

yeah with that kind of stuff, how can I afford the 1k for a skill?

SlippyJack

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

W/R

22 Apr 2007 at 04:29 - 23

Cool, I guessed 3

Did you have full henchies and heros?
Were you a warrior or Ranger?

LeetScythemaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Dragonslayers of Ascalon

D/Mo

22 Apr 2007 at 04:43 - 24

I was playing my E/Me with a mist form/fire magic build...no henchies or heroes bc i dont enjoy partying. I was going to attempt it with heroes, but I got extremely frustrated. I've only really played guild wars solo and when I try to party, my group normally sucks...causing me to stick to soloing.

Ella Cookie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

GW Trilogy

E/R

22 Apr 2007 at 05:26 - 25

/signed please...

Twlzted

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

[GT]

D/A

22 Apr 2007 at 05:40 - 26

Ok as sum1 stated earlier this newly added HARD mode thats supposed to give us GREATER,BETTER rewards for our HARDWORK (pissoff!) all this did was add an additional way to irritate & piss us the **** off!

No rewards watsoever,i went out solo,w/ hench,w/ REAL people & hmmm imagine that,the same f***in thing over & over again!NOTHING drops but blue items,white items (WOO-HOO I GOT A 9-21DMG WHITE SCYTHE!!) HOLY SH** KNOCK ME OVER & CALL ME MARTHA!

I DEFINATELY sign this hott dayum thing in hopes sum1 will be removing (head from butt) VERY soon!

Ignorance is BLISS!

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

22 Apr 2007 at 05:48 - 27

/signed

i agree with everything he said

viper11025

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)

A/

22 Apr 2007 at 05:49 - 28

To put it Simply.

/signed

PLZ UNERF them. If you notice ppl cheat to get Gold then turn around and buy stuff then it's prices goes up.Then more people cheat.Afterwards Major Rune of vigor cost 35K.To put this in perspective.Dont nerf solo stuff or it makes it harder for people to get stuff and combat cheaters.Instead they get a bonus.The daggers I have now are worth 20-30K thanks to inflation and nerfing before hand it was worth 10K.

darknight2169

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

United Aussie Warriors [AUS]

W/Mo

22 Apr 2007 at 05:53 - 29

/signed

Quote:

# Remove all Dying Nightmares from UW. These were only put there to demote solo farming. They are just an annoyance at this point and serve no valid purpose.

w/rt, rt/me, trappers and countless other builds arent even remotely affected by these things, they are nothing more than a bother for solo 55'ers, if your gonna stop people from solo-ing a place, do it properly, stop EVERYONE from solo-ing, not just the monk. And don't bother adding a "super monster skill" like you did in tombs, we proved that didnt work. *cough* solo sin *cough*

Quote:

# Restore Protective Bond to a useable form. You've nerfed this into oblivion, again only to deter solo farmers because this was not a widely used PvP skill. Please put it back to the way it was.

since the nerf. I have seen 0 uses for this. seen 0 builds for it. seen 0 possible ways to use it in anything. Sure, it was powerful, but now, its more useless than Peace and Harmony (well, mabye only just as useless)

Quote:

# Restore Bathazar's Aura back to a useable form. It should last 10 seconds like before, and it should have a 10 second recharge. Not sure how this would affect PvP, but I don't see alot of smite builds anyhow...

Sure, I have no problems with it as I have other skills, but if this was un-nerfed Id use it, but since it is, I never will.

Quote:

# Put the griffons back outside Augury Rock

we're gonna solo. No matter what. Just give us some variation in what we solo

Lt Smackahoe

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Wars Trilogy

W/N

22 Apr 2007 at 15:28 - 30

/signed

In my humble opinion I feel that this update is a bad choice. I dont understand the reasoning behind this. Now if you want to buy decent armor or weapons you have to buy gold online and pay a rediculious price for them, because this is going to be driving prices up.

I do understand that the problem with the bots...but who cares. You are punishing all of us because of the bots!!! Most of us farm the gold and these green items to sell at market price and then buy our armor and whatever else we need. What about the players that arent in guilds or even the ones that are just starting out, theyre not gonna stay, whats the point?!?!?!? You cant make these Deep runs, and DOA missions with the base crap you get and it will be too hard to get anything else. There must be a diff way to stop these bots than making everyone suffer, I for one MAY never play again that may not bother anyone but for 3 years I have been playing in my spare time and made lots of friends and it sucks that this is happening cause I have a really bad taste in my mouth for Guild Wars now, I was soooo looking forward to GW2. Kinda pointless now.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

22 Apr 2007 at 16:39 - 31

/notsigned on Dying Nightmares thing

Dying nightmares are hardly a problem in the UW. There are many good builds that can counter dying nightmares and many builds don't even use enchantments (Such as the Rt/W build).

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

22 Apr 2007 at 17:11 - 32

/notsigned.

For the most part, Anet made solo farming profitable again. Besides the fact that you don't get as many crap materials or white items, everything is good. All it basically did was prevent the farmbots from amassing as much gold because they mainly farm for crap white items and sell them anyways. Green farmers and ecto farmers aren't affected nearly as much by this.

Sakura Haruno

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Secret xD

Xen Of Heroes [XoO] The fabled XoO Alliance!

A/E

22 Apr 2007 at 17:19 - 33

this update driving prices down ectos 8k ea currently

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

22 Apr 2007 at 17:22 - 34

/notsigned with a passion

Farming is good once again, Smites still drop ecto at the same rate and now you can do a run faster than before.

dioblo222

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Seattle-area

Draconis Reincarnatus [DRGN]

R/

22 Apr 2007 at 17:27 - 35

/signed

Bots arent the only ones who rely on the mass crap white drops for gold. I dont know what im gonna do for a few quick plats now.

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

22 Apr 2007 at 18:24 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dioblo222

/signed

Bots arent the only ones who rely on the mass crap white drops for gold. I dont know what im gonna do for a few quick plats now.

qucik plats... man this isnt a grinding game, so u need to play hardmode for slow plats... oh w8 wtf

On another note HERoES SUXX in Hardmode,specially the monks. THE ONLY WAY THEY MOVE is to telling them to. Ah, and they get brain freezes, and let u die if dont manually cast a Reversal of Fortune manually, cause if they dont have healing spells they cant use cheap protection spells to heal.

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

22 Apr 2007 at 19:09 - 37

/Signed. The thought of griffons outside Augury is nostalgic. And I cannot think of any moment in time since it's nerf where Prot bond has been used. Except shared between 2 heroes.

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

23 Apr 2007 at 01:03 - 38

Protective Bond was not nerfed because of farmers. If they wanted to nerf farmers they would have got rid of the -50 and -20 health items in the game long ago. fact in point anet wants farming bots. thats the only thing any reasonable person can derive from them giving in within moments to the farmers demands to NOT have certain loot scale for (real player) party sizes. As in not NPC henchmen or heroes. BUt a full party of Real players. Since the scale is allowing such abuses so soon, I fully anticipate Anet has no intention of ever removing exploit farmers from the game.

Protective Bond was nerfed because of its abuse in HoH and TA. nothing more nothing less. Farming was an incidental side effect.

Fact is it was not that great a skill to begin with as it was easily stripped, but no one ever took the time to realize this until much later in the game when ANET forced people to play other builds on occasion with their periodic nerfs. which I'm sure is more the reason nerfs happen then anything else. To keep the game interesting and fresh. And not fester down to the same builds forever.

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

23 Apr 2007 at 01:40 - 39

/signed let me use my monk again

~the rat~

Envious

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

13N/144E FoKai

23 Apr 2007 at 01:53 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakura Haruno

this update driving prices down ectos 8k ea currently

Well, lets join the bandwagon to drive the prices even lower. Assuming at this rate, Ectos will be selling for a measly price.