Loot Changes
* Adjusted the following items so that they are now exempt from loot scaling:
o Skill Tomes
o Scrolls
o Dye
o Rare materials, such as Ectoplasm
o Gemstones from the Domain of Anguish
o All other rare (gold) items
o All unique (green) items
o Special event items
Miscellaneous
* Henchmen that were previously sub-level 20 before entering Hard Mode now have appropriate armor and weapon damage for their level.
* Added the Warrior's 15k Knight's Armor set to the crafter in Marhan's Grotto.
I guess you can farm things for gold items now =) lol and ecto will stay the same or lower since the scrolls....
so its all good. just no more 'gold' farming
Farming... update
unknown1
makosi
Woot. Superb.
I didn't see this on the site though.
I didn't see this on the site though.
lord_shar
Amen.... I was seriously considering wiping GW from my HD. This is a change I can live with.
EDIT: I guess I'll hold off on that PS3 lol...
EDIT: I guess I'll hold off on that PS3 lol...
Arren Knez
yes but drops are now based on party size so ecto wont drop as much for a solo farmer even with no scale 
and wahh theres a 15k knights now :O
and wahh theres a 15k knights now :O
unknown1
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yes but drops are now based on party size.
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Age
This is some sort of past April Fools Joke this post is fake I didn't see it on the update notes although I wish it were true.15K Knights get it ppl.
unknown1
no its real not a joke, look on main site
NoChance
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yes but drops are now based on party size so ecto wont drop as much for a solo farmer even with no scale
and wahh theres a 15k knights now :O |
I guess the way to think about the farming nerf is that you are assigned all the items you usually get, but if the item is not one of those listed in the OP, then it may be "stolen" by an invisible magic elf.
FoxBat
I don't get it.
What's the point of loot scaling at all then?
What's the point of loot scaling at all then?
unknown1
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I don't get it.
What's the point of loot scaling at all then? |
you will not get 'mob drops now' but the possibilty of getting a gold item, green item, rare material, gems, etc.. are the same as if there was no scaling.
only items like collectables, 'gold' and common material, and stuff liek taht is scaled down.
Dragonious
MARGONITE FARMING IS AMAZING! 4 golds in 2 groups.
Naomi Heartily
ugh, 15k knights female is ugleh. T.T
Age
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Recon_Alpha
So, what's the point of the loot scaling? To lower the drop rate of white, blue and money drops?
If it only applies to white, blue and money drops, why go through the trouble (work) on creating the code to prevent those (low cost/selling) drops?
@unknown...when you refer to 'gold', I'm assuming you refer to cash and not items. Who would actually farm for cash when it drops, on average, for less then 100g?
If it only applies to white, blue and money drops, why go through the trouble (work) on creating the code to prevent those (low cost/selling) drops?
@unknown...when you refer to 'gold', I'm assuming you refer to cash and not items. Who would actually farm for cash when it drops, on average, for less then 100g?
strcpy
The point is that bots go get everything and merch it - repeat over and over. This kills them.
However, if you play the player driven market (golds, materials, dyes, etc) you are golden. You have to sell to other players to make your money, something the bots generally do not do.
Plus the type of farming for the "exempt" items tends to be done by humans, not bots, as it generally takes some higher decision making - though anything single thing a human can do a bot can too. They just need real computer scientists and specialized scripts - something that they most likely will not get.
I also assume that the UW is "normal", therefore they should no longer scatter like they used too making those ecto easier to get. Though I have not tried out the new scatter anywhere, let alone waste a plat to try it in the UW.
However, if you play the player driven market (golds, materials, dyes, etc) you are golden. You have to sell to other players to make your money, something the bots generally do not do.
Plus the type of farming for the "exempt" items tends to be done by humans, not bots, as it generally takes some higher decision making - though anything single thing a human can do a bot can too. They just need real computer scientists and specialized scripts - something that they most likely will not get.
I also assume that the UW is "normal", therefore they should no longer scatter like they used too making those ecto easier to get. Though I have not tried out the new scatter anywhere, let alone waste a plat to try it in the UW.
Bocjo Bassannn
Thanks a net for listening this is a great compromise for everyone that matters... (not bot farmers) THIS IS THE BEST 2 updates ever WOOT GOOD JOB!!
lyra_song
LOSE- Lose the ability to make easy gold by grinding for crap white items and selling them to merch.
GAIN - keep the ability to get rare weapons, rare materials and such by solo farming. You can keep farming for gold weapons, green weapons, ecto, shards, gems, etc. But you wont get any white/blue/purple/dyes/materials/keys/golds in the process.
GAIN - keep the ability to get rare weapons, rare materials and such by solo farming. You can keep farming for gold weapons, green weapons, ecto, shards, gems, etc. But you wont get any white/blue/purple/dyes/materials/keys/golds in the process.
LoKi Foxfire
As long as I can still farm gems in DoA I am 100% happy. 
Mr. Fahrenheit
Yay ectos!
Take that invisible Stefan!!!
Take that invisible Stefan!!!
Guardian of the Light
Seems perfect
1. Team based parties get plety of loot (esp on hard mode, I got 3k after doing 2 missions with my friends without counting the golds and purples I got).
2. Solo farmers can still solo farm things like to farm (like ectos) without hurt the ecomony with high gold farming.
3. E-bay bots got owned!
1. Team based parties get plety of loot (esp on hard mode, I got 3k after doing 2 missions with my friends without counting the golds and purples I got).
2. Solo farmers can still solo farm things like to farm (like ectos) without hurt the ecomony with high gold farming.
3. E-bay bots got owned!
kumarshah
But people who just started playing the game like me, can't solo farm anywhere else except for places such as UW now. Hydras, Vermin, Griffons etc would drop shit now.
Or do you want me to go into UW first time with solo build and see me die over and over again?
Or do you want me to go into UW first time with solo build and see me die over and over again?
GodofAcid
Props to Gaile Grey for listening to alot of the veteran players, myself included, who voiced in masse our discontent with the extreme measures taken against farming and doing the right thing. Like I said in another thread, many of us have done just about everything else in game and farming was one of the few things we could do at our leisure and enjoy. I'm grateful that they listened and I think this is a fair compromise. I see that some people are still upset - the main difference with this and what had been in place is that you can adjust to this. This may make things more difficult for you in the short term but you have options and in the long term you should be able to adjust. There was no room to adjust before, everything was nerfed to the point where farming of any kind was no longer practical.
PS - And it's a GREAT day to see the bots take the hit and not the players. That one has been a long time coming
PS - And it's a GREAT day to see the bots take the hit and not the players. That one has been a long time coming
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Props to Gaile Grey for listening to alot of the veteran players, myself included, who voiced in masse our discontent with the extreme measures taken against farming and doing the right thing. Like I said in another thread, many of us have done just about everything else in game and farming was one of the few things we could do at our leisure and enjoy. I'm grateful that they listened and I think this is a fair compromise.
PS - And it's a GREAT day to see the bots take the hit and not the players. That one has been a long time coming |
Others
jchip
Thank you Anet...best...update...ever!
It's brought back everything i loved about GW and lost in the AOE / AI updates over the past two years.
Solo farm builds, running & powerlevelling are back. Green / gold solo farms reward the solo player and the new hard mode creates a greater party challenge.
Great stuff Anet, really well done
It's brought back everything i loved about GW and lost in the AOE / AI updates over the past two years.
Solo farm builds, running & powerlevelling are back. Green / gold solo farms reward the solo player and the new hard mode creates a greater party challenge.
Great stuff Anet, really well done
Mercury Angel
Thank you for posting the update details. However, despite this thread coming 9 minutes earlier, due to the slightly more descriptive title and higher level of current activity here, I'm going to close this and direct further posts on the subject to that thread on the subject of the update.
Also, for interested individuals, please check out [Dev Update] Farming and Loot Scaling posted by Gaile Gray.
I'd merge the 2 update threads, but unfortunately, mergers cause problems with the forums. Sorry for the inconvenience caused by this closure, and know that you're free to repost your content in the other thread.
Also, for interested individuals, please check out [Dev Update] Farming and Loot Scaling posted by Gaile Gray.
I'd merge the 2 update threads, but unfortunately, mergers cause problems with the forums. Sorry for the inconvenience caused by this closure, and know that you're free to repost your content in the other thread.