Ecto farming...hard or normal mode?

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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I'm not too sure if this has been asked already, but if i am going to continue soloing Smite Crawlers for ectos, should i do it in normal or hard mode...or does it make a difference?

lauratos landof

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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One problem in UW hardmode, if youre luring the Graspings, the Aatxe will probably follow you because of 50'% Speedbuff.

Moone

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not only probably, they follow you and if you hide behind the spirit the lvl 25 dying nightmare will kill you, i tested it already

Railin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lauratos landof
One problem in UW hardmode, if youre luring the Graspings, the Aatxe will probably follow you because of 50'% Speedbuff. Yeah that's why I never even bothered in hard mode. Unless you're planning on killing the aatxes too it won't work. Though dual teams would be awesome..

tamirxd

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Its not possible with warrior, killing the grasping is still easy[the aatax not following you so far], but getting to the smites is impossible, because of the 50% movement speed they will hit you atleast twice which means 130+ damageX2Xnumber of aataxs+the other graspings that in your way[that deals 20+ damage].

It is possible to solo with necro, i did it myself today, it much fast because of the 50% attack speed of the monsters[nightmares are no problem, let em rend you, then PS then Spoil Victor/Spiteful Spirit/Indisious Parasite,].

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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I did a duo run today with a guildie today in UW.. HM, drop rate is not that good. I just hate does DN now at lvl 25, you can kill him just before my Spellbreaker runs out

Puran Lighthart

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GoAnubis

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what about with sig of stamina and two running skills?

Dutch Masterr

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To clear up what i was asking....Would more ectos drop in hard mode compared to normal?

Teh [prefession]-zorz

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possible HM with dual trappers? you kill everything anyway...

Mark Nevermiss

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Join Date: Jul 2006

I am still not getting any ectos in normal mode, even after the latest patch.

lauratos landof

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They drop 100%, i just had 9 ectos in 7 runs.

Dronte

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My mate got 3 ectos in 1 run today.

jbwarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lauratos landof
They drop 100%, i just had 9 ectos in 7 runs. In normal or Hard mode

Damisel Of Death

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
My mate got 3 ectos in 1 run today. Normal or Hard mode? Solo? Build?

Dronte

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damisel Of Death
Normal or Hard mode? Solo? Build? Simply Normal Mode with ele solo.

Damisel Of Death

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
Simply Normal Mode with ele solo.

I'm trying right now

Fossa

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The aatxes don't scatter that much with aoe damage with the new easier normal mode, so I tested the old 55 solo build with balths aura. It worked but it took some time.

As for hard mode has anyone tried the torment gem duo farming build? Eternal spellbreaker would take care of the nightmares.

madman24749

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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The drop rate for rare materials hasnt changed so it makes no difference if you do it in hard or normal mode, might as well do it in normal mode ya

Eldin

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IIRC, Gaile said that loot scaling (aka how the amount of loot dropped is proportional to your party size) doesn't affect rare materials. I heard nothing about the actual droprate.

During the free UW/FoW weekend, I got one ecto after a million UW runs, both solo and 2/3-man. The FoW was nicer and gave me a fair amount of shards, though.

I think you should just do normal mode (I haven't tried though, since, as we all know, Europe is a favor hog). Same with the New UW (aka "Tombs" as people have been calling it more often lately instead of the former). Lots of people claim doing HM on it is not worth it, and just to stick to Normal.

Mr Bartel

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I run 605HP monk + smiter and it works in HM (Spirit Bond + reversal is enough) The nightmares lvl 25 Kill theirself with the holywrath and retribution, then no problem with SB.
BUT i hadnt any ecto in 3 run (killing aatxes + smites), maybe luck isn't with me.

beltran13579

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600ing sounds like a really good idea considering they attack faster so they will do more dmg to themselves

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If I'm understanding this correctly, I will probably stick to normal mode for sake of overall speed.

After doing a handful of duo runs, I can see a few major differences. Nightmares (obviously) - I *think* they have around ~200hp, instead of the ~75hp in normal. Wand hits do fairly little against them.

The IAS of the enemies can be a problem if you mass aggro. Three groups of squids can overwhelm a 55/ps/breeze a bit faster (just needs faster reaction from monk), and tanking 3 groups of smites is more difficult. (I believe I was being overwhelmed even while in bonetti's O_O)

And yes, you can still mass aggro and kill efficiently in HM - and even before it. However, I believe most do slow-poke aggro (1 at a time), so the IAS won't be a problem, I guess.

NME

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o.O Explain how you do this mass aggro you speak of...

Ral Hanzo

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guys would it be normal or hard mode that ur m8 got the ectos ask him plz

kumarshah

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Normal Mode.

Damisel Of Death

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Omg I've done 4 run in Normal Mode and I found 4 ectos :O

Maybe I've got a lucky account -__-'

Dronte

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No, its not lucky, its normal.

Melko

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2ecto
1black
2gold perfect

fb2000

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melko


2ecto
1black
2gold perfect interesting, i did 3 runs on HM yesterday with a guildie, no ecto, no black, only 2 golds dropped..
will probably do a few more later.

i do get an average of 1.5-2 ecto per smiterun on normal..

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Messy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tamirxd
It is possible to solo with necro, i did it myself today, it much fast because of the 50% attack speed of the monsters[nightmares are no problem, let em rend you, then PS then Spoil Victor/Spiteful Spirit/Indisious Parasite,]. Solo and 2 elites or I'm going to guess you mean either SV or SS. In that case which has worked best for you?

mwpeck

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bartel
I run 605HP monk + smiter and it works in HM (Spirit Bond + reversal is enough) The nightmares lvl 25 Kill theirself with the holywrath and retribution, then no problem with SB.
BUT i hadnt any ecto in 3 run (killing aatxes + smites), maybe luck isn't with me. You are definitely unluck....my friend and I used a modified(but similar) 600HP + smiter build, firsts off, it works better than normal mode because the graspings heal him, so it makes it easier. Second, we did 2 runs(both aatxes + smites) and we both got 1 ecto each run(meaning 2 ecto's total, per run).....before hard mode, we usually got 2 per run if we were lucky, usually only 1 per run though. We also got 3 golds on each of the runs, as well as about 6 total purples.

ArKaiN

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dont Mess WithMe
Solo and 2 elites or I'm going to guess you mean either SV or SS. In that case which has worked best for you? I'm pretty sure he means you can use any of those, since they're common choices.
In my experience, HM and Normal drops in elite areas is the same, pretty much. Maybe a little bit better in HM, but nowhere worth it in therms of work/reward.

Eldin

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I did a two-man trapping group in the UW a few moments ago (normal mode). I got two ectos, but we went by the 50/50 rule and gave one to my partner.

This was off the Aatxes, too (though that may have just been luck, I've only seen Aatxes drop an ecto one other time).

We probably would have gotten more, though lagspikes killed us during Clear the Chamber.

red13xx

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I went in UW and got 1 ecto first hour in group for testing. Then I went in solo 5 runs and nothing today. I dont kinow bad luck for me I guess.

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Yeah, the drop radio is still the same as before the update. The drop rate is not that realy good, sometimes I get 3-4 ecto's a run and sometimes I do 4-5 runs and have 1 ecto

Carboplatin

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did a run with kcp's old solo necro build. not as fast as before due to the spirit bond nerf, but still good if you wanna kill the ataxes and the smites.

thanks to kcp again. i can dust off my necro and kill those fat cows

squan

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well i do solo uw with my ele, smites only. i do only normal mode and sometimes i get 3/4 ecto a run. not bad for a 13 minutes run. but i always get 1. once i had a group of 8 smites and they dropped 3 ecto. so normal for me

MASQUE EYE

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Definately Hard mode on my 55 necro , i like the challenge better w/ atts, NM's,grasps and smites. Also hard mode seems to give me better drops rather than regular.

Crazyvietguy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldin
IIRC, Gaile said that loot scaling (aka how the amount of loot dropped is proportional to your party size) doesn't affect rare materials. I heard nothing about the actual droprate.
Well the simple fact is that they drop just as they used to, before the loot scaling update, in normal and hard mode. I've done both, one with a duo Monk (Holy Wrath) and the other soloing with my Rt. Both came out to be just about equal in drops.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldin
During the free UW/FoW weekend, I got one ecto after a million UW runs, both solo and 2/3-man. The FoW was nicer and gave me a fair amount of shards, though. Wow, you are incredibly unlucky then. During that weekend I got around 30 ectos, I only farmed for around 5-6 hours (over the whole weekend). However, it is true that FoW seems to yield more shards as compared to ectos but.. if you can do a UW run in 10-15 mins compared to a 30-45 min FoW run, the results speak for themselves.