Well,
having had to wait an additional month for my 'exclusive Guild Wars 2' information and Asura mini-pet I have to say I'm completely gutted. Having read all sorts of good summaries and excerpts from the US PC Gamer 13 page (count 'em) review I was really looking forwards to something I could get my teeth into.
Instead what I got was a 4-page article that was 3/4 well published pictures that can be summarised in a handful of sentances.
Eye of the North will be coming out and is a high level expansion (duh...)
It will be in dungeons, but with some areas that 'feel' like ascalon.
You can have your character achievements recognised in a 'hall of monuments'
Guild Wars 2 will come out sometime next year. (again, duh...)
There will be different races.
That's it... No 13 pages, no information that's not currently available on the guildwars website. I mean, what gives? Why do we Europeans get screwed over with some pathetic cobbled together using largely vulger language mash-up that offers NOTHING over and above what was already in the public domain from the guildwars website. (I'm not even mentioning the fact that we have to wait an extra month to get an asura mini which is now valueless if we wanted to trade it, or nearly as common as a mini-pig.
What gives?
I'd still like to read the full 13-page article in PC Gamer but will now have to try and contact the publishers and pay for shipping etc. if they'll even agree to send me a copy by air-mail. Why the totally inconsistant approach?
Remind me never to spend £6 (that's about $12 US) on this worthless magazine again (that conveniently comes shrink-wrapped and boxed so you can't even have a flick through the content before you buy it).
So disappointed...
BdP
PC Zone article in Europe
Boris De Pig
Mordakai
6 pounds?!?
Damn.
Well, the only consolation I can give you is that you probably already know everything that's in that 13 page PCGamer article. If there's anything specifically you'd like me to quote for you, PM me.
Damn.
Well, the only consolation I can give you is that you probably already know everything that's in that 13 page PCGamer article. If there's anything specifically you'd like me to quote for you, PM me.
Etta
Yeah, PC Zone Uk is never a big fan of GW. They favor World of Something more, I know I always get it every month. The magazine itself is still a good read and keep me entertain while I'm doing No2. At least they still better than PC Gamer UK.
ischuros
Im just glad I can pick up the US PC Gamer here in Ireland, and only for 8 euro, compared to 10 for PC Zone or PC Gamer (UK).
I'm sure if you look around you can pick up a US PC Gamer in the UK. Try WH Smith or somewhere like that.
I'm sure if you look around you can pick up a US PC Gamer in the UK. Try WH Smith or somewhere like that.
MrTickle
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Y...keep me entertain while I'm doing No2....
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Zappa
Just be thankful you got something.
warren_kn
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The magazine itself is still a good read and keep me entertain while I'm doing No2.
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) are comedy pieces that only briefly tell you what the game is about. Please ANET, I've never begged for anything from you till now. Don't use PC Zone again, give your UK exclusive to another, more talented magazinre.
Goldenboy
I genuinely mean this in the least offensive way possible, but what did you expect? I mean, nowhere does it say "Exclusive Information", and the fact is, the humongous PC Gamer article covered pretty much everything that could be covered until closer to release date. Yes, the article had no new information, but I somehow get the feeling that Greece's "PC Master Magazine" or Serbia's "Gameplay" are getting exclusive info either.
Dj Tano
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Holy crap, what a rip-off!
Just read the article in the store instead of spending that much money for it...
viper008
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Holy crap, what a rip-off! Just read the article in the store instead of spending that much money for it... |
semantic
To be fair, the writer for PC Gamer actually got to visit ANet to put together her article. There's an interview with her on GuildCast (Episode 67, you can podcast it) where she talks about it. I doubt writers for Euro mags had that opportunity.
Still, what a ripoff.
Still, what a ripoff.
Boris De Pig
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I genuinely mean this in the least offensive way possible, but what did you expect? I mean, nowhere does it say "Exclusive Information", and the fact is, the humongous PC Gamer article covered pretty much everything that could be covered until closer to release date. Yes, the article had no new information, but I somehow get the feeling that Greece's "PC Master Magazine" or Serbia's "Gameplay" are getting exclusive info either.
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And to quote from the front cover of the magazine, emblazoned accross it in a bright yellow font '3 World Exclusives - Guild Wars 2, Football Manager Live and Left 4 Dead'.
So yeah, I was expecting the same 13-page US PC Gamer article as a World Exclusive here in the UK.
@ischuros: Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look around for it if any stores still have it. Do the Irish branches get the magazines later than their US release since it was in last months US PC Gamer
Darko_UK
What gives where I am it's called PC Gamer not zone...Im in ENGLAND
Zappa
God, I feel so terrible for you, lol.
UK is always spoiled with this kind of offers/promotions, yet, people come here to complaint about how unhappy they are with what they read there. Man, that's really sad.
Now seriously, my truely, deepest feelings for your sadness, I really feel bad about you. You deserve more!! Yeah, you should have it all!
Please I demand that A.Net meets with this person to give him a full private press conference, because you owe that to him and all UK Guild Wars players. Yes, that's it. Oh and pretend that the rest of land around it doesn't exist, ok?
Should I wear black today? Since we're all mourning the lack of pages talking about GW in that magazine.
Geez.
UK is always spoiled with this kind of offers/promotions, yet, people come here to complaint about how unhappy they are with what they read there. Man, that's really sad.
Now seriously, my truely, deepest feelings for your sadness, I really feel bad about you. You deserve more!! Yeah, you should have it all!
Please I demand that A.Net meets with this person to give him a full private press conference, because you owe that to him and all UK Guild Wars players. Yes, that's it. Oh and pretend that the rest of land around it doesn't exist, ok?
Should I wear black today? Since we're all mourning the lack of pages talking about GW in that magazine.
Geez.
Boris De Pig
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What gives where I am it's called PC Gamer not zone...Im in ENGLAND
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@Zappa, thanks for your heartfelt sympathy, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that you understand the terrible grief I feel. To receive such love and understanding from my fellow man fills my heart with joy. Maybe later we can arrange to meet up and 'spoon' on your couch since no-one has ever understood me the way you do...
I gotta ask though, do you want to be the big spoon, or the little one?
Basically a warning. Yes you will get your Asura mini, but if you're considering buying this magazine in the UK for a good preview and plenty of info, don't bother.
BdP
warren_kn
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God, I feel so terrible for you, lol.
UK is always spoiled with this kind of offers/promotions, yet, people come here to complaint about how unhappy they are with what they read there. Man, that's really sad. Now seriously, my truely, deepest feelings for your sadness, I really feel bad about you. You deserve more!! Yeah, you should have it all! Please I demand that A.Net meets with this person to give him a full private press conference, because you owe that to him and all UK Guild Wars players. Yes, that's it. Oh and pretend that the rest of land around it doesn't exist, ok? Should I wear black today? Since we're all mourning the lack of pages talking about GW in that magazine. Geez. |
Goldenboy
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And to quote from the front cover of the magazine, emblazoned accross it in a bright yellow font '3 World Exclusives - Guild Wars 2, Football Manager Live and Left 4 Dead'.
So yeah, I was expecting the same 13-page US PC Gamer article as a World Exclusive here in the UK. |
As for expecting the same article, it's by different people, different magazines, difference circumstances (as another poster pointed out, the PC Gamer writer went to ArenaNet HQ) and different continents. The article was simply never going to have the same level of depth that a one-to-one interview was. I'm I'm sure those who buy the other European magazines won't find a huge amount of detail either.
And someone mentioned before, how NCSoft shouldn't give GW news to PCZone in the future - Well, ultimately, then you'd end up with a very similar article (they provided the artwork, screenshots and information after all), albeit in a different magazine.
Diablo???
its like a twilight zone/alternate weird universe over there in the UK...
Zappa
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@Zappa, thanks for your heartfelt sympathy, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that you understand the terrible grief I feel. To receive such love and understanding from my fellow man fills my heart with joy. Maybe later we can arrange to meet up and 'spoon' on your couch since no-one has ever understood me the way you do...
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Warren_kn you were so busy being a "grown-up" that you completely missed the point of my post.
While you came here to complain about the article, lots of other people would've loved to have the offers and info you had published in one of their countries' videogame magazines. Yes, it seems that people do exist outside the UK!
Same thing happened in previous similar offers.
And yet, you bash A.Net and PC Zone for not giving you enough. So yeah, you are a bit spoiled.
If PC Zone should have the same info PC Gamer had or not, if their journalists are crap, if they have partnership deals with A.Net, if Boris likes to "spoon" with other guys - that's not the issue here and I couldn't care less.
Ok, you may have been given just a little bit less info than the US, but there's a lot more that didn't get nothing at all. So enjoy what you have. Or are you too good for it?
warren_kn
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I lol'd. Nice comeback, man.
Warren_kn you were so busy being a "grown-up" that you completely missed the point of my post. While you came here to complain about the article, lots of other people would've loved to have the offers and info you had published in one of their countries' videogame magazines. Yes, it seems that people do exist outside the UK! Same thing happened in previous similar offers. And yet, you bash A.Net and PC Zone for not giving you enough. So yeah, you are a bit spoiled. If PC Zone should have the same info PC Gamer had or not, if their journalists are crap, if they have partnership deals with A.Net, if Boris likes to "spoon" with other guys - that's not the issue here and I couldn't care less. Ok, you may have been given just a little bit less info than the US, but there's a lot more that didn't get nothing at all. So enjoy what you have. Or are you too good for it? |
Anphobia
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Maybe later we can arrange to meet up and 'spoon' on your couch since no-one has ever understood me the way you do...
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I love Dr. Cox.
*Alexiel*
Hmm.. I was looking forward to getting this mag this weekend. If It wasn't for my stubborness against buying an asura from some random in Kamadan and for my idiot self being infatuated by its cuteness (yes, I said cuteness) I'd completely not buy this.
*sigh* oh well.
*sigh* oh well.
Takuna
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Yes, it seems that people do exist outside the UK!
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Dude, you may think you're funny and witty and that you've got a point but it's not funny, the wit is corny in a nasty, sarcastic sort of way and the point is about as sharp as a slipper... Unless you're interperating 'sharp as nasty.
No one's saying it's a disaster that we'll never live down. We're just saying that we're dissapointed.
william1975
I Haven't got the magazine yet, but will jus tto ge tthe mini pet,
However I'm deeply annoyed that there isn't a more extensive article,
I got the previous issue because anet said that there would be an article in it, and it amounted to 1 page, I expected this next issue to have one similar to the pc gamer in america.
I have two main problems with this,
First is that the magazines are published by the same company, therefore the people writing it must be privy to the same information, that means the information is being withheld by the uk magazine.
Second, Gaille Grey specifically said that we should not speculate on the information until we read the article, and that included us in Europe, She said we should all go read it. How can we do that when the publisher they use is suppressing it here, and god knows in how many other countries!
If i could get an america pc gamer i would, but i dont have access to credit cards or anything making that possible, None of the people stocking computer magazines stock that one here, and I incude WH Smiths, it just so happens that there is a uk version of PC Gamer, so I would imagine not many places will stock an american magazine of the same name.
This is totally farcical, Some information is given out but not much online because nobody is allowed to due to an exclusive deal with the publisher, so not even Anet can tell us what PC Gamer has, and then we are told to not comment on the information till we get all of it, but our publication outside of the uk dont give the full information, and fromt he sounds of it even less than whats online already!
I think Anet should at the closest possible time abolish the contract with the publisher and arrange one with a cmpany that respects all of Anet's customers, not just one portion of them. Anet should be able to ensure that all of us are able to get the same information roughly at the same time.
However this is presuming that there is another publisher that actually operates in these places!
However I'm deeply annoyed that there isn't a more extensive article,
I got the previous issue because anet said that there would be an article in it, and it amounted to 1 page, I expected this next issue to have one similar to the pc gamer in america.
I have two main problems with this,
First is that the magazines are published by the same company, therefore the people writing it must be privy to the same information, that means the information is being withheld by the uk magazine.
Second, Gaille Grey specifically said that we should not speculate on the information until we read the article, and that included us in Europe, She said we should all go read it. How can we do that when the publisher they use is suppressing it here, and god knows in how many other countries!
If i could get an america pc gamer i would, but i dont have access to credit cards or anything making that possible, None of the people stocking computer magazines stock that one here, and I incude WH Smiths, it just so happens that there is a uk version of PC Gamer, so I would imagine not many places will stock an american magazine of the same name.
This is totally farcical, Some information is given out but not much online because nobody is allowed to due to an exclusive deal with the publisher, so not even Anet can tell us what PC Gamer has, and then we are told to not comment on the information till we get all of it, but our publication outside of the uk dont give the full information, and fromt he sounds of it even less than whats online already!
I think Anet should at the closest possible time abolish the contract with the publisher and arrange one with a cmpany that respects all of Anet's customers, not just one portion of them. Anet should be able to ensure that all of us are able to get the same information roughly at the same time.
However this is presuming that there is another publisher that actually operates in these places!
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Not a matter of me being too good for it, just my side of the whole satisfied customer thing. You know you too could complain about not getting a magazine at all. What good it'll do you I don't know but you coultd try
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A bit offensive in my point of view, but hey, what can you do, it's the internet, everyone's hiding behind their Pc monitor.
So I wanted to watch the reaction, now, from the other side, and I have to tell you, this amused me. When I was the one complaining it was a futile thing, it was just a magazine. Everyone was happy about it but - "Oh stop whining it's just a magazine!"
Now I'm the one saying that it's just a magazine, accept what you got from it no matter how simple it is (remember you paid for the magazine itself, not the GW article, so, as a customer, you got exactly what you paid for, plus a minipet that you'll probably sell for a fair amount, unless of course, that issue was more expensive because of the whole GW thing, which I doubt), and you come up with all sorts of theories about how it should have been written, how A.Net should change their partnerships. You even begged, lol. For a simple magazine.
That's what I meant when I told you people were acting a bit spoiled. When someone complains about something you ignore and/or criticize, but if it gets to you, it becomes worthy of attention, even when, after all, you're not really hurt.
Also, know that I'm not pointing any fingers.
Takuna your post reminded me of moments like when you're in PvP and you own everyone around you, and when everyone is lying dead on the ground someone calls you a noob, hehe.
Yes, it includes me. And? It doesn't invalidate what I said. The question is, would I've said this if I lived there? Maybe yes. I'm proud to have a mind of my own.
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Lord Sojar
Burn your copies and perform demonic ceremonies, all your woes will go away... oh wait... O_O
Saraphim
Pfff.. glad I asked a friend in the US to pick up a copy for me.
Bowman Artemis
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Well,
having had to wait an additional month for my 'exclusive Guild Wars 2' information and Asura mini-pet I have to say I'm completely gutted. Having read all sorts of good summaries and excerpts from the US PC Gamer 13 page (count 'em) review I was really looking forwards to something I could get my teeth into. Instead what I got was a 4-page article that was 3/4 well published pictures that can be summarised in a handful of sentances. Eye of the North will be coming out and is a high level expansion (duh...) It will be in dungeons, but with some areas that 'feel' like ascalon. You can have your character achievements recognised in a 'hall of monuments' Guild Wars 2 will come out sometime next year. (again, duh...) There will be different races. That's it... No 13 pages, no information that's not currently available on the guildwars website. I mean, what gives? Why do we Europeans get screwed over with some pathetic cobbled together using largely vulger language mash-up that offers NOTHING over and above what was already in the public domain from the guildwars website. (I'm not even mentioning the fact that we have to wait an extra month to get an asura mini which is now valueless if we wanted to trade it, or nearly as common as a mini-pig. What gives? I'd still like to read the full 13-page article in PC Gamer but will now have to try and contact the publishers and pay for shipping etc. if they'll even agree to send me a copy by air-mail. Why the totally inconsistant approach? Remind me never to spend £6 (that's about $12 US) on this worthless magazine again (that conveniently comes shrink-wrapped and boxed so you can't even have a flick through the content before you buy it). So disappointed... BdP |
Anyway, regions outside of the US in general have been jipped, almost impossible to get PC Gamer here in Australia, too.
NOTE: I AM ANGRY AT THE MAGAZINE PUBLISHERS, NOT ANET/GAILE/NCSOFT/YOUR WAMMO.
freekedoutfish
I have to ask! Where you really expecting some hugely, amazing article about GW2 and GW:EOTN?
I expect the article has been ripped, and posted onto countless websites or forums around the world already. You could have just read it on there.
Your basically paying £3-6 for a mini pet, thats all.
In saying that, Im probably still going to buy it purely for the mini-pet. It just means one less Pint for the month.
I expect the article has been ripped, and posted onto countless websites or forums around the world already. You could have just read it on there.
Your basically paying £3-6 for a mini pet, thats all.
In saying that, Im probably still going to buy it purely for the mini-pet. It just means one less Pint for the month.
Edge Martinez
Holy cow. Article aside, I know your money is worth more, and I know you guys get paid more for comparable jobs, but $12 for a magazine??? Please tell me they raised the price this one time because of the mini.
Nexus Icon
Nope Edge, it's that much every month, hence why I never buy computer games magazines anymore.
Hell, I don't buy ANY magazines anymore.
Hell, I don't buy ANY magazines anymore.
Etta
Nope, always been £5.99, normal price for a PC & console games magazines really. Music magazine's prices are like that as well from 4.99-5.99, Mojo, Q etc. Don't get me starting on "rip off Britain".
phil_carter
nope, I don't think so, gaming magazines have always been ridiculously overpriced in the UK, I was dissapointed with the 4 pages, I was expecting something more but what can we expect in a nation infatuated with football and/or wow.
I wasn't aware the pound was that much stronger than the dollar but £5.99 sterling is indeed what It cost.
And on another note, that sure is one expensive pint.
I wasn't aware the pound was that much stronger than the dollar but £5.99 sterling is indeed what It cost.
And on another note, that sure is one expensive pint.
william1975
Lol I get american comics over here, For one with cover price of $2.99 I pay £2.15 With the pound giving you 2 dollars at the moment this meens i pay the equivalent of $4.30 for it.
I don't think shipping costs come to that much for each comic
But then I remember a tv programe that set out to spend £1000 on clothes in the UK and the US, They bought a return ticket to New York, out of the £1000, went shopping for the exact same clothes they spent the £1000 on and got them all, and came back with change!
This shows you how much we are ripped off in the UK, when you can get thing cheaper and go on holiday at the same time for less money than it costs to get them over here.
Should we cmplain, well yes thats just our nature here, probably everywhere people comlain, but will we do anything about it
No way! When the rest of Europe was having revolutions at the end of the 1840's the British public organised one too, but it rained, so we all went home!
I don't think shipping costs come to that much for each comic
But then I remember a tv programe that set out to spend £1000 on clothes in the UK and the US, They bought a return ticket to New York, out of the £1000, went shopping for the exact same clothes they spent the £1000 on and got them all, and came back with change!
This shows you how much we are ripped off in the UK, when you can get thing cheaper and go on holiday at the same time for less money than it costs to get them over here.
Should we cmplain, well yes thats just our nature here, probably everywhere people comlain, but will we do anything about it
No way! When the rest of Europe was having revolutions at the end of the 1840's the British public organised one too, but it rained, so we all went home!
kravex
The security on the code of the CD is poor too, check the tape hasn't been removed before you buy.
The inside back page is funny too :-)
The inside back page is funny too :-)
Sophitia Leafblade
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Lonesamurai
Ahh... being british FTMFW!!!
/sarcasm off
/sarcasm off
warren_kn
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That's exactly where I wanted to get. Of course I complained. I guarantee you, there's no better complainer than me. And got flamed. I even remember someone saying: "Is that even a country?"
A bit offensive in my point of view, but hey, what can you do, it's the internet, everyone's hiding behind their Pc monitor. So I wanted to watch the reaction, now, from the other side, and I have to tell you, this amused me. When I was the one complaining it was a futile thing, it was just a magazine. Everyone was happy about it but - "Oh stop whining it's just a magazine!" Now I'm the one saying that it's just a magazine, accept what you got from it no matter how simple it is (remember you paid for the magazine itself, not the GW article, so, as a customer, you got exactly what you paid for, plus a minipet that you'll probably sell for a fair amount, unless of course, that issue was more expensive because of the whole GW thing, which I doubt), and you come up with all sorts of theories about how it should have been written, how A.Net should change their partnerships. You even begged, lol. For a simple magazine. That's what I meant when I told you people were acting a bit spoiled. When someone complains about something you ignore and/or criticize, but if it gets to you, it becomes worthy of attention, even when, after all, you're not really hurt. Also, know that I'm not pointing any fingers. Takuna your post reminded me of moments like when you're in PvP and you own everyone around you, and when everyone is lying dead on the ground someone calls you a noob, hehe. Yes, it includes me. And? It doesn't invalidate what I said. The question is, would I've said this if I lived there? Maybe yes. I'm proud to have a mind of my own. Ah! That's one point for you right there, buddy! Who knows what vile creatures might roam there? lmfao I'm retardedly smart tonight. |
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That's exactly where I wanted to get. Of course I complained. I guarantee you, there's no better complainer than me. And got flamed. I even remember someone saying: "Is that even a country?"
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Takuna your post reminded me of moments like when you're in PvP and you own everyone around you, and when everyone is lying dead on the ground someone calls you a noob, hehe.
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Zappa
No, man, I'm not calling you a noob. -.- When you said, with all that rage, that I wasn't funny, you reminded me of those who die in pvp and say that the guy who killed them is a noob. May be an awkward analogy, but that's what it came to mind at the time, lol. Don't try to make it look like an insult because it wasn't.
I'm actually a pretty boring person. ^^
Warren_kn, I meant I'm not pointing my fingers at anyone in particular, here in the forums.
I'm actually a pretty boring person. ^^
Warren_kn, I meant I'm not pointing my fingers at anyone in particular, here in the forums.