Opportunity to move Tyria and Cantha to the inscription system?

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Drop of Fear
Drop of Fear
Forge Runner
#1
Was wondering after 6 months what are people thinking about the inscriptions system introduced with nightfall... rare skins are still rare, but the system basicly leveled all the players to the same level.
so... what would happen if they copy/paste the same inscription system in the other 2 contintens? hardcore players would probably be happy because their req8 and req7 oldschool items will be rarer then ever, and casual players would be happy aswell because they no longer need to drop n+ times the same skin to find a 15^50 or +5energy one, or farm xx hours to have the amount of gold needed to buy one.

after all most of the rare canthan and tyrian skins already drop in ha with inscriptions... guardian of the hunts, celestials, jade swords, gpb etc...

I personaly can say i love the new inscription system and i see many benefits from moving it to the first 2 campaigns, it would be a nice way to revamp interest and fill ghost towns again.

thoughts? just dont hang me for this
Longasc
Longasc
Forge Runner
#2
You are not the first who would like the Inscriptions and Insignias extended to all campaigns.

I would like this, too.
RSGashapon
RSGashapon
Krytan Explorer
#3
I really hope, someday in the not-too-distant future, that Anet updates all the armors available in Tyria and Cantha to the newer, better insignia system. Prophecies has many armors that, while good looking, don't see a lot of use because their stats aren't the most sought after (I name Mesmer's Rogue's armor as an example). I'm sure they'd be used more if they were updated to match the armor sets available in Elona.

As for weapons, I'm sure they would benefit from an update as well, though maybe not as critical or necessary as an armor update would be.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#4
Anet had opportunity to introduce them with hard mode, lots of people where hyped on this posibility. Shame it didnt happen.
cellardweller
cellardweller
Likes naked dance offs
#5
I would take it a step further and make all existing items inscriptified, but I doubt that would be a popular move amongst the collectors .

TBH though, I can't wait till they do. I've put off doing HM in Tyria and Cantha till then because, as someone who isn't interested in trading, all of the golds dropped there are worthless to me.
Mourne
Mourne
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
Do not change all campaigns to inscriptions please....Rare noninscribable weapons are rare for a reason, because not everyone has them. They have already taken away a good bit of the inscribable highend items with the hard mode update, don't do it to the rest.
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#7
The main problem is existing armour sets. They would have to retroactively update all armour that's been bought, otherwise there would be a lot of angry people. However, they've shown they can easily change things in people inventories, so this shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Zaganher Deathbane
Zaganher Deathbane
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
The way I see it I think we will expect Prophecies and Factions weapons and armors to be inscriptable and insigniable upon the release of GWEN. Remember that GWEN is an expansion which requires you to own at least 1 chapter to play it. If insignias and inscriptions apply to NF only then as a new player why would I buy Prophecies or Factions then? What would be the advantage of buying those 2 over NF?
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#9
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Originally Posted by cellardweller
I would take it a step further and make all existing items inscriptified, but I doubt that would be a popular move amongst the collectors .
I though all the collectors left game already since anet basically kept making rare stuff less rare since day one, hardmode and now huge avaiability of r9 max Sicles/Tribal axes/etc shold have persuaded even most blunt of them that there is no point of collecting stuff just because it is rare.

Seriously, who of "i have r9 crystalines with each inherent mod" people is still around and cares?

Thus, collectors/rare stuff traders/etc should be least concern when talkign about this stuff.
DFrost
DFrost
Krytan Explorer
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
The main problem is existing armour sets. They would have to retroactively update all armour that's been bought, otherwise there would be a lot of angry people. However, they've shown they can easily change things in people inventories, so this shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Not necessarily, didn't all obsidian armors stay the same but there was just an inscribable set added to the crafter? They could do the same to other armors as well, and I hope that they will do so when GW:EN is released.

EDIT: I got inscriptions and insignias confused again. I would like the Tyrian and Canthan armors to have insignia slots available, I don't mind the current weapon inscription system.
bilateralrope
bilateralrope
Desert Nomad
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
I would take it a step further and make all existing items inscriptified, but I doubt that would be a popular move amongst the collectors .
The problem with moving existing items over to the inscription/insignia system is the amount of time it would take to go through the database of players inventories and changing every item. Unless ANET does something clever like making an NPC to talk to to change your stuff over, it will probably require that ANET schedule some downtime in order to convert the items.

Because of this I'll personally be happy with all new items on the insignia/inscription system, with only the more expensive (>1.5k) armor sets retroactively changed over. Existing cheap armors and weapons would remain unchanged but those armors will be cheap to repurchase (though dye prices would likely spike), and the weapons will become cheap enough after a while. Making all armors insignia armors would be nice though.

Currently the most expensive armor set I have is 1.5k Kurzick, so I don't expect them to be made insignia armors, but as they are either Factions or Nightfall armors the only stat change I would get from that would be the headgear. My weapons currently have good enough stats for PvE.

Besides, since people who want to have armor sets of different stats will be wanting multiple sets in either system, I don't really see any advantage to making Factions armors insignia armors as their looks are already separate from their stats. But if they were changed to take insignia people using them would have to deal with the prices at the insignia trader (currently 2.3k for sentinels and 1.7k for +energy, and most people would want 5 of them). But I do agree that Prophesies armors do need to have their skins and stats separated, either by the Factions or Nightfall methods.
Surena
Surena
Krytan Explorer
#12
Whom of those r9-crystalline-owners do you know, have you ever heard of? Do you know the guy who got fow-armour as the first ever? Do you know a guy with a req 8 serpent axe? I don't know anyone. What does admiration by (mostly younger) players give you? Way back in Summer 2005 when I had so much luck that I could afford a FoW-Set, players stood in crowds around me. Is that what makes this game so joyful to you? I never got it.

People care too much about rare stuff and its meaning, value and some of these so-called collectors have a worrying attitude to this game.

I totally support insignias on Tyria's Armours and inscriptions on its rare weapons.
jackie
jackie
/retired
#13
Not signed,

I favour the pre-NF item system. It was quite exciting to identify gold items knowing that it could have awesome stats or totally useless.
fenix
fenix
Major-General Awesome
#14
Basically, look at it this way:

Since HM has come in, rare skins are dropping like mad, so aren't as rare any more. Currently the ONLY way to get Factions/Prophecies skins inscribable, is the HoH chest. That means that very shortly, the rare items will be the HoH chest ones, as everything else is being farmed like mad in Hard Mode.

If inscriptions were added, then the ONLY rare skins/items in the game, would be the HoH-only ones. There are still rare-collectors, and if they all get removed, it'll make a lot of people angry.
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Rockby Quickfoot
Frost Gate Guardian
#15
I don't think they would just switch it over since they say that the inscriptions are supposed to be a reason to buy Nightfall. However, I still would like to change insignias on our Tyrian/Canthan armours. I think that if someone has the Nightfall campaign added to their account, they can go to Nightfall and there could be an NPC to make the insignia on armour (or inscription on a weapon) blank, so that we could then inscribe them.
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silara_jorinset
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
Undecided on the inscriptions but I think insignias really need to be added to armour in the first two chapters. The npc idea suggested by bilateralrope would probably be the best way to do this as its non-intrusive and optional that way.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilateralrope
The problem with moving existing items over to the inscription/insignia system is the amount of time it would take to go through the database of players inventories and changing every item. Unless ANET does something clever like making an NPC to talk to to change your stuff over, it will probably require that ANET schedule some downtime in order to convert the items.
Id like to mention fact that some items are not compatible with inscription system.

Dual -2/-2 shields, Those tac shields with +1/20% fire magic...

Wating anet to convert existig stuff is foolish because it cant be principilally done for large subsection of items (with exception of armors, its imho doable for those.)

What is doable and would be apreciated is making hard mode drops inscribable and all uw/fow drops inscribable.
Marth Reynolds
Marth Reynolds
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
I really think they should change this system for the Tyrian/Canthan armors but for weapons i fon't mind either way.
Cymmina
Cymmina
Krytan Explorer
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie
It was quite exciting to identify gold items knowing that it could have awesome stats or totally useless.
You dear, are the minority. How is "excitement" over what is essentially a very cruel lottery good for the game? It's not. For the rest of us, whenever a gold drops it's a case of "I bet this is going to be another shitty gold, I hope it at least has decent mods I can salvage off and put it in my inscriptionable weapon".

I won't buy anything without an inscription slot anymore.

It's retarded that ALL armors didn't get insignias retroactively, even if it was only for accounts with NF. It's not like you can trade armor.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
What is doable and would be apreciated is making hard mode drops inscribable and all uw/fow drops inscribable.
I like this idea a lot.



Yes armor definitely needs insignias.

15k knights with better stats PLEASE PLEASE.