ATS tournament - ETA?

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Hey everyone,

I'm not quite sure if this is the right way to post about it but hell... here goes

As stated in the "I'm bored" topic in this sub-forum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10150392, I also lost interest in hard mode lately. I turned onto the hero battles a while ago and I am eagerly awaiting ATS. I'm top 700 atm, so I really expect a lot of these automated tournaments...

I've been following this feature and as far as I know, they were finishing testing ATS gvg, and two weeks ago it was ATS hvh...

So does anyone (or ANet) knows any information about it? Like ETA, or what kinda tournament prizes?

Yours,

Lyra

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Zee oh em gee! Lyra has two accounts!

But seriously, ANet has kinda kept us in the dark about the tournaments, etc. Unless there's something I missed, in which case someone here will happily fill you in.

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Zee oh em gee! Lyra has two accounts!
Lol, I think you are confusing me with someone else on the forums . Although you could say that I'm pretty new to these forums, I'm with GW from the early start (less than a month for my second birthday miniature ).
Gimme gimme ATS

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ya, there's a renowned poster on the forums known as lyra_song. It's just a little joke, no problem.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Hey i only have one account o.o; the ign lyra song has been taken by someone else anyway.....i didnt know i was renowed, i thought i was loud and obnoxious. >.>

*cough*

On topic, the ATS system is really the first time ive seen Anet allow the community to see a new feature in such a raw state. The other features like storage upgrades and HM have had months in testing before they even hinted it to the public, so judging from that alone, you can expect a wait before these are implemented into the live server

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
you can expect a wait before these are implemented into the live server
Whoa!! More waiting! ... I've waited too long for hard mode to be good for me lol, and it really dissappointed me... Looks like this is going the same way then

P.S. Lyra_Song, I really didnt want ppl to confuse me with you... Sowwy

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

first it was in january.
then it was at the end of the filler lame celestial tournament.
then it was after a bit of closed beta.

now... what?? 5 months of delay seem more than enough to me.

especially considering that we're gone through 2 "fun tournament" already, and that Gvg players have absolutely nothing to play for, right now.

seekjy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

The last competitive article stated that the first tournament season would begin May 1st. So, there's no reason to suspect a delay until tomorrow rolls around, and we haven't heard anything yet.

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by seekjy
The last competitive article stated that the first tournament season would begin May 1st. So, there's no reason to suspect a delay until tomorrow rolls around, and we haven't heard anything yet.
That's exactly what I was thinking this evening... But in my country, tomorrow May 1st, is a celebration day where nobody has to work. I don't know if ANet will be doing the same...

seekjy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by LyraMyst
That's exactly what I was thinking this evening... But in my country, tomorrow May 1st, is a celebration day where nobody has to work. I don't know if ANet will be doing the same...
ANet should be on top of things, since the United States doesn't celebrate Labor Day until September.

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...mpetitive3.php

"Starting in May 2007, our new, automated tournaments will provide players and guilds the opportunity to qualify for exciting monthly championships where over $10,000 worth of prizes are awarded to the winners."

That, translated from Anet languages, should mean 28th of May, and effectively starting in June

Lifeinthefridge

Lifeinthefridge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

1337land

W/E

Yeah I was in ATS closed testing we finished GvG last week it was running really smooth so I see it coming pretty soon.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by LyraMyst
That's exactly what I was thinking this evening... But in my country, tomorrow May 1st, is a celebration day where nobody has to work. I don't know if ANet will be doing the same...
i have my english literature exam, sucks - every1 else is on holiday...

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...mpetitive3.php

"Starting in May 2007, our new, automated tournaments will provide players and guilds the opportunity to qualify for exciting monthly championships where over $10,000 worth of prizes are awarded to the winners."

That, translated from Anet languages, should mean 28th of May, and effectively starting in June
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

Gaile just served you up a cup of own.

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"
Which means its comming today 1st May ?

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

They were supposed to be here in January...... I guess may is close enough.

kurtas

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Ex Talonis

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"
With Anet's current track record, can you blame him for being justifiably hasty?

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Gaile, where do I cap Signet of Owning?

Productivity

Productivity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"
How is it a hasty judgement? You've never managed to keep a schedule, so expecting you to miss another target isn't exactly unfair...

antialias02

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Productivity
How is it a hasty judgement? You've never managed to keep a schedule, so expecting you to miss another target isn't exactly unfair...
ArenaNet is never early and never late, but always arrives exactly when it means to?

*cough*

We should get ATS soon, count yer blessings.

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

I've noticed a "gvg test" tournament when I looked at the tournament npc today (the one where u can register ur account for hvh)... Is it starting today ?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Productivity
How is it a hasty judgement? You've never managed to keep a schedule, so expecting you to miss another target isn't exactly unfair...[/QUOTE]
when have they missed a specifc official release date?

details please with linkies to official release dates missed

defrule

defrule

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Volcano Insurance Salesmen [scam]

Noon has past even for Pacific time.

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar

when have they missed a specifc official release date?

details please with linkies to official release dates missed
it's not exactly missing the dates (even though with the ATS in january, yes it was really and completely missed; and that I think was another reminder for Anet... "never give dates, NEVER give dates!" lol); it's just HOW you have to understand the dates... remember the BIG SUMMER UPDATE of 2005? Nice that, out of 3 months, it came out 2 days before autumn.... so yeah, it was technically still summer :P

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

here's the update.... u wouldn't guess what... some small delay xD

however I admit I was too pessimistic, I apologise -__-''

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...tureupdate.php

linh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

So far, tomorrow noon is May 9. So we must assume "today" date is May 8.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

a delay, oh noes. this comes as a complete shocker.... Honestly i wish anet would stop giving time frames if they have no intention of sticking to them.

defrule

defrule

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Volcano Insurance Salesmen [scam]

I saw this coming.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
a delay, oh noes. this comes as a complete shocker.... Honestly i wish anet would stop giving time frames if they have no intention of sticking to them.
How? They said its coming in May and it still is. Coming in May doesnt automatically make it May 1st. Even if they intended it to be May 1st, the delay doesnt mean they had no intention of keeping it. They arent purposefully delaying it. You dont want an extremely buggy ATS do you?

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Apparently he/she/it does, they must want to find all the bugs ANet missed so they can post a whine thread about how crappy the ATS is and how ANet has lousy testers, etc etc etc.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"
And then tommorow at Noon if it does not come, will you be back to say "Sorry for my foolish judgment"?

Productivity

Productivity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

[QUOTE=Loviatar]
Quote:

when have they missed a specifc official release date?

details please with linkies to official release dates missed
Reconnects before Factions gogogoogogo!

As ever, Arena Net have moderately competant PR, who do everything to avoid giving an actual date, however if you look through the history, critical features (trade improvements lol?) have a history of having extremely long lead times before they are released.

They started 'working' on storage upgrades 18 months ago lol.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
How? They said its coming in May and it still is. Coming in May doesnt automatically make it May 1st. Even if they intended it to be May 1st, the delay doesnt mean they had no intention of keeping it. They arent purposefully delaying it. You dont want an extremely buggy ATS do you?
Actually if you want to be technical, they said the AT's would be here in January.... Then April......

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Apologies from me: The article was slated to be posted at Noon. The website server crashed this morning, and both news post/articles were delayed by a few minutes or even, I think, by an hour or so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Actually if you want to be technical, they said the AT's would be here in January.... Then April......
That part is very true.

You know, there are those at ArenaNet who feel we should not state even a vague timeline. They want to avoid putting the team under stress, and allow us to work most efficiently on what needs to be done first, even though that sometimes isn't what the players want most. (And yes, honestly, prioritization must be the developer's call. Not everyone demanded reconnects at the top of their list, but reconnects really was a more critical addition than, say, storage increases.) So some on the team say, "Don't make a promise, don't even let players know we're working on something."

I disagree.

I'd rather you know we hear you, and are working on things you care about, even if we sometimes miss a deadline, as we did with the Automated Tournament System, or even if we get heat for not working on this one player's top "essential," or that other player's special request. I ask for timeframes all the time, and I like to give them to you because, when I was following games as closely as you follow Guild Wars today, I liked knowing what was coming, and I appreciated having some vague idea of what might be on the tracks, heading in my direction. We give the timeframes with the hopes that you'll understand if we might miss one. In fact, the ATS is delayed because we needed the team to work on some critical elements for GW:EN, so we had to make a shift in dates.

You probably have noticed we're not giving month or day deadlines as much any more. The ATS situation is one reason. We missed that date, plain and simple. Another thing to consider is that some players can leap to assume "You promised!" when we simply say we'll consider something or when we say "Maybe in a month" and it's longer.

Communication is a good thing -- we're committed to it as a company; I'm committed to it as a liaison. But please understand that we've never missed a game release date, never flubbed on a event release timeframe, and we've been adding a lot to the game over the last two years. I'm hoping that you can look beyond the extra time that we regretfully needed for the ATS and consider the system on its merits, once it is released.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Repeat mantra...

Any insult to an individual or the community as a whole will be deleted. Please keep your posts on topic and contributing.

unknown entity

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ring of Explorers

hI, Gaile.

Gills clearly stated ATS would go live in April in the previous SotG. You broke the promise without making any official statement (I mean, no chat from you, Gaile, but a formal article on GW site). This is not good course of action. (or inaction?)

As a tester, I knew it was apparent ATS was not completed as expected (it had various problems/bugs which weren't related to stress at the beginning) and you need time to fix them. Others who heard/read about such might expect the delay was unavoidable as well.

But such people were limited in number. Most ppl didn't know such information. You should announce it must be postponed for some time (and ask ppl to wait for further news) around the time when Devs decided to do further testing. (aroud mid April?)
Lack of news was bad in this case, as timeline was already given a month ago. Don't you think so?

I had concern whether ATS could endure real stress as we had less than a hundred of testers at max. I hope live test would become true as Gills stated in the latest SotG and you can run live stress test with hundreds or thousands of registrants.

And while you're reading this thread... I have a question as well.
Are there something wrong with the new daily ATS schedule?

Thursday 23:00 HvH - Friday 24:00(you mean 0:00?) HvH
Monday 23:00 GvG - Tuesday 24:00(same here) GvG

Only 1 hour interval between 2 tournaments??? Do I misread the table?

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra
That, translated from Anet languages, should mean 28th of May, and effectively starting in June
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And when, tomorrow at Noon, you find that this comment is completely wrong, will you be back to say "Sorry for my hasty judgment?"
bahahaahahahahahhahahaah.

AT's delayed for ~8 days... bit of a backfire there eh Gaile? I think Cassandra deserves an apology


Seriously though, Anet have delayed AT's for ~3 months. At this point I don't think there's ANYTHING Anet could do that would make me think of them as a 'good' company. Every time they say they are going to implement something, it takes an extra 2 months. And you wonder why GvG's are becoming stupid....

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

R/

There is no competitive gvg while these Ats are being rolled out. A delay means more time that us GvG players sit on our hands, thinking about joining WoW. I mean, imagine overhauling PvE and removing significant parts of that for several months. Essentially, we payed for new chapters to remain competitive, and the part of the game we payed to play, isnt here.

Every. single. missed. deadline is a kick in the teeth, and while you guys may deem them as neccesary, it doesnt really take the pain away.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Yeah, making the ladder not matter in terms of AT's, but not putting in AT's, is just like Anet making a new drop system, but removing all monster drops for 2 months while they implement the new system....