Solo Farming Is Not Dead. Period.

Master Halbarad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Tyrian State Bank

R/E

Many claims were stated by players that because of the new fix to the drop system, solo farming is dead. This is no way the case in my opinion. I do agree that if you try to solo farm normal mode that yes, that is stupid. But there are already builds out that allow oneself to farm in hard mode and that is were the new solo farming is at. Gold item drops are three times more likely in hard mode and those don't scale to party size. Also the chests out there drop gold items so often its incredible, let alone the elite tomes. The Fact is that if you believe that solo farming has died then you are just fooling yourself out of lots of money because in my opinion solo farming is enanced now.

P.S. Why don't some of you share some of your own solo farming builds for Hard Mode here to back me up?

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
P.S. Why don't some of you share some of your own solo farming builds for Hard Mode here to back me up? Because there's a farming forum here that does that?

J3mo

J3mo

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Solo isn't dead, I made about 600k this week, that's more than I ussualy get in 3 months.
I would've never had that without HM

kickthedonkey

kickthedonkey

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

[DFC]

solo farming isnt dead because they reealised they where messing up and took loot scaling off gold and rare drops also they made normal so easy with no aoe scatter

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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thanks for this, I can say that while I used to do a TON of solo farming back after factions came out... I now do much less with far more happiness/minute thanks to hard mode. I've always been into solo X_______X (fill in the blank) for the challenge, not the repetition or the potential money. Also if I solo farm greens, its not to get rich, it's for equipment for other characters or heroes. Hard mode is like a dream come true for me both for solo farming and challenge, and while I've enough titles for the moment someday when I get the itch anew, hard mode provides there also. I've merely been using my old solo farm builds (55 nec/toucher/terratank...) on hard mode to play around so far, but it's far exceeded my expectations as far as loot.

Corcky54

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Domo Kun Goes [Rurr]

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Farming is very much still alive. In the past two days, I've been farming the cursed lands with my monk, and in a few hours I got at least 30 rare dead bows, 17 rare armors, 4 black dyes, and a rare sephis axe. I made around 120k in the few hours I farmed.

I agree, farming has been way enhanced.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by kickthedonkey
solo farming isnt dead because they reealised they where messing up and took loot scaling off gold and rare drops also they made normal so easy with no aoe scatter hehe, not to nitpick, but might wanna check ur facts first. Yes, rare drops are uneffected by loot scaling, but gold drops (money) is affected greatly. Additionally, AoE scatter still exists in easy mode, it simply takes the monsters a longer amount of time to react to AoE... Update notes ftw!

OH, back on point, i agree. Farming solo is still very doable, it simply affects the merchant farmers is all. The people who are willing to try and sell their rare/green/rune drops can make some great cash off of HM. The people who relied on gold (money) drops and purples/whites/blue items for merchant selling are gonna have to totally change what they farm...

Only thing i am annoyed about is doing a UW solo run (for ecto of course), my trip often doesn't even pay for itself anymore in merchant junk and money drops. If i dont get an ecto in a run (often), then i usually come out losing cash in total, rather then before loot scaling. In the past, just from that merchent junk & money drops alone i could get 3-4k from a UW solo trip... *sigh* Another thing to look back on as the "good ol' days"...

But i digress, yes, the amount of hardmode rare items can really make soloing successful!

cheers.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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Hey Batou, solo farm HM bosses for the UW scrolls ;P

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

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OMG...

Where were all of you guys a week ago!!!

Look here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10146569

It's funny how after a week, when everything that I say will happen actually does, everyone changes there mind about solo farming...

I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here but if you were one of those people that were denying me in the post above, don't doubt my superior mind!!! lol, jk

By the way, i fully agree with Master Halbarad

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

So there is one group of posters on the board saying, don't tell us Hard Mode is bad because it is only meant for a certain number of people (like them) who are really good at the game.

There is another group of people saying that solo-farming is not dead because of hard-mode and people who farm in normal mode are stupid.

I am not really good at the game and I would like to make money to buy Signet of Captures to capture skills for the skill hunter title. To capture 141 skills in NF I need 141x1k = 141k gold. Add the gold needed for Factions and Prophecies and I need, well a lot of gold.

Forget the gold I need to get my Treasure Hunter and Wisdom Titles

Lurid

Lurid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

It requires a good bit of dedication to ever get the max level of treasure hunter, don't kid yourself, it takes a good bit of time to open 10k chests. However farming gold isn't particularly difficult, just rush through each expansion and farm whatever seems to be hot at the time. Whether that be solo or in a team. Thats usually the easiest way to farm, in reality.

I'm not anything special at the game, but i'm really enjoying hard mode. Simply due to the higher chances of getting my favorite skins (dead bows, mursaat bows, mursaat hammers, sephis axes, dwarven axes...) and now I don't have to pay exhorbent prices to buy my favorite skins, I can (more or less) farm them myself.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

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Going off another threads subject matter. Imagine this.

ANET makes all chapters inscribable. Can you imagine what that might do to boost the rarity and prices of uninscribable perfects if they make it just "new drops only" in Tyria/Cantha? Then again, it could also tank the whole value sysytem too, lol.

Just food for thought. I myself plan to keep a few perfect uninscribables on standby just in case.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
hehe, not to nitpick, but might wanna check ur facts first. Yes, rare drops are uneffected by loot scaling, but gold drops (money) is affected greatly. Additionally, AoE scatter still exists in easy mode, it simply takes the monsters a longer amount of time to react to AoE... Update notes ftw! He meant when Hard Mode was implemented initially, loot scaling affected [b]all[b] drops (so in HM getting a gold in solo is probably not much greater than normal) but then Anet made changes soon after so that dyes, rares and whatnot are exempt from loot scaling

I think

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

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Solo farming has been dead since henchmen started stealing drops.

I've cleared the area of Grenth's Footprint around Sorrow's Furnace more times than I can count. Have yet to get ONE green weapon.

Even before the so-called farming nerf, I could never get more than 10k. Only recently was I able to, using FOUR CHARACTERS, amass enough money to buy ONE PIECE of 15k armor.



Oh, and using hard mode to justify ANet's screwing farming over doesn't fit.
Not all of us have ACCESS to hard mode.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

*Sn!ggers at Absolute Destiny*

I only have access in Cantha and Tyria.... not Nightfall.... but it is already amusing me farming-wise...


For practical playing purposes, Hard Mode is an absolute nightmare (that is to say I doubt I'll ever get any Guardian or Vanquisher titles).
For 55hp Farming... Hard Mode is a freakin godsend!
Afterall, as far as I'm aware, all 55hp farming relies on enemies doing damage to themselves by attacking... and they now do that a whole lot faster...



So anyway...
If you don't have access to Hard Mode... then get the hell on with completing the campaigns in Normal Mode. Factions is pleasantly easy in Normal.... even to get Protectors. Prophecies takes an annoyingly long time, but isn't too tough (especially if you have well-kitted heroes)... Nightfall is only problematic once you get to the Realm of Torment... and that can necessitate Lightbringer Point Farming.... but I'll be done with that soon and be able to farm Dead Swords and Colossal Scimitars with everyone else... ^_^

And you don't NEED 15k armour to complete a campaign.
Just complete them with 1.5k or collector armour.... start farming Hard Mode... and then use the money aquired from that to get 15k...
Priorities dude... priorities.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
Solo farming has been dead since henchmen started stealing drops.

I've cleared the area of Grenth's Footprint around Sorrow's Furnace more times than I can count. Have yet to get ONE green weapon.

Even before the so-called farming nerf, I could never get more than 10k. Only recently was I able to, using FOUR CHARACTERS, amass enough money to buy ONE PIECE of 15k armor.



Oh, and using hard mode to justify ANet's screwing farming over doesn't fit.
Not all of us have ACCESS to hard mode. Ummm I hate to bring logic into this, but if your solo farming your don't need to worry about henchies stealing drops, because your doing its solo.. alone by yourself.

And if your not making money farming you just need to learn what to farm and where.

The Abbott

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aruthas Gatekeepers

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by kickthedonkey
solo farming isnt dead because they reealised they where messing up and took loot scaling off gold and rare drops also they made normal so easy with no aoe scatter
idd lol I was one of the lucky first ones to get a Colossal , I swapped a r9 for a tormented shield and sold a req 10 for 100K+25e in one day,,, next day everyone was tryna sell them,,, lucky me

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Ummm I hate to bring logic into this, but if your solo farming your don't need to worry about henchies stealing drops, because your doing its solo.. alone by yourself. Solo = not bringing anyone else.

Henchies are computer controlled.

Like I'm going to take a W/N alone into Grenth's Footprint...

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
Solo = not bringing anyone else.

Henchies are computer controlled.

Like I'm going to take a W/N alone into Grenth's Footprint... Ok.... here is what you need to do:

#1. Lion's Arch ... and from there to Kaineng Center (assuming you haven't been there already)...
#2. Fight your way through the Factions missions until Senji's Corner... Buy Ritualist as a secondary class.
#3. Dependant on your choice of Kurzick or Luxon... go either to Mourning Veil Falls or Rhea's Crater with Ritualist secondary and a Signet of Capture.... find the relevant Ritualist Boss ... kill them and take Vengeful Was Kanhei.
#4. Go through the rest of Factions to complete it.
#5. Go back to Prophecies and complete that.
#6. Go through Nightfall if you so wish.
#7. Get a bit of practice with the W/Rt VwK build... then go farm Dead Swords with it... or whatever else you can.


*Yawns*

Kas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

You think it is not dead because you can currently still reap the higher prices of some rare items but at the same time you're bringing them down more and more until their worth is depleted. Your "easy 600k a week" will soon be "easy 60 k a week" and then finally "6 k a week".
You're digging your own money grave by overfarming now and ultimately kill solo farming yourself. It's not dead yet but it is seriously close to it.

Bonelance

Bonelance

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cafateria Food Fighters [NoOn]

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why wouldnt you go in W/N alone? the grenths build is more than enough to farm footprint...i made a couple 100k off of footprint farming, and its just not that hard

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonelance
why wouldnt you go in W/N alone? the grenths build is more than enough to farm footprint...i made a couple 100k off of footprint farming, and its just not that hard ?

You might need to clarify, because my W/N specializes in axe mastery, and I don't have any skills available that would keep him ALIVE, much less enable him to farm without at least a healer hench.

Kas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Grenths Balance. Keeps you alive just fine. There should be a submission in the Warrior Farming Build Thread.

qazwersder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'll be looking soon

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It would sound like you aren't at a stage in the game where you might want to start farming anyway. I'd say listen to soticot's advice and finish the game first, then develop you're character a bit then start farming.

As far as the topic goes, no it isnt, lots of nice drops these days. I never used to be a chest kind of person but now in hard mode they near enough pay for themselves every time. Kas has a point mind.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

What the hell are you people talking about? SOLO FARMING IS DEAD!

I took my monk to saint anjecka's to farm dragon mosses... Those of you who know this farm from the past know that there was always a good chance to gt at least some crappy whites since theres so much stuff to kill... Well I didnt get squat.. I tried again and again... It's DEAD.. All I get is like 1 dragon root, and a crappy whit after killing like 25 dragons! If that doesnt say solo farming is dead, I dont know what does...

I tried the green bosses too.... Mostly the scar eater.. He drops NOTHING 9 times out of 10... After killing him 20 times I got 1 scar eater. And yes, that is on hard mode!

nekopowa

nekopowa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Croatia

A/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Ok.... here is what you need to do:

#1. Lion's Arch ... and from there to Kaineng Center (assuming you haven't been there already)...
#2. Fight your way through the Factions missions until Senji's Corner... Buy Ritualist as a secondary class.
#3. Dependant on your choice of Kurzick or Luxon... go either to Mourning Veil Falls or Rhea's Crater with Ritualist secondary and a Signet of Capture.... find the relevant Ritualist Boss ... kill them and take Vengeful Was Kanhei.
#4. Go through the rest of Factions to complete it.
#5. Go back to Prophecies and complete that.
#6. Go through Nightfall if you so wish.
#7. Get a bit of practice with the W/Rt VwK build... then go farm Dead Swords with it... or whatever else you can.


*Yawns* Or just go to the Great Temple of Balthazar after you've ascended/did sunspear sanctuary missions, change your 2nd profession to /Rit and buy an elite ritualist tome.

gaiaplay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Solo farming in terms of getting quick plat is dead.
Solo farming for rare drops and sell it to the player market is still out there.

People wanted the first one for convenience.
The latter one is for people who had patience to haggle.

Rare drops now though are becoming more common. Once the market saturates because of HM, I wonder what will be left to sell.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by nekopowa
Or just go to the Great Temple of Balthazar after you've ascended/did sunspear sanctuary missions, change your 2nd profession to /Rit and buy an elite ritualist tome. To a non-farmer who hasn't even completed the necessary campaigns yet... an Elite Ritualist Tome costs a bomb.

Oddly enough I'm trying to farm them right now and getting heaps of... NOTHING. I've killed Chkkr Brightclaw over 20 times in a row now in Hard Mode and got nothing better than a Scroll of Adventurer's Insight. I haven't even had any blues aside from that. Perhaps farming is dead afterall.... at least for me... ¬_¬ .. I got the same deal from Byzzr as well.

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

Which just brings up back to the point that solo farming is not dead for farmers, solo farming is harder for people who farmed to get the gold to do variety of other things.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by kumarshah
Which just brings up back to the point that solo farming is not dead for farmers, solo farming is harder for people who farmed to get the gold to do variety of other things.
Ok.... That made no sence whatsoever.

So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that farmers dont want to do a "variety of things" with their gold?

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

No more garbage picking for platinum. This is the main cause everything was so expensive.

They eliminated the garbage, give everyone more rares, rare materials, eliminated the AoE flee on normal mode, and made most rare skins that went for 500k+ easily obtainable for anyone with a little bit of patience, yet people are still crying about the loot update. Makes absolutely no sense to me that people are so worked up about not being able to pickup all those non-max white/blue items and collector drops.

Trust me I'd be one of the first people to leave GW's if they killed farming, I'm still here and loving it.

Dinkytowner

Dinkytowner

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
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You might need to clarify, because my W/N specializes in axe mastery, and I don't have any skills available that would keep him ALIVE, much less enable him to farm without at least a healer hench. Do you even read these forums or just post random crap? Find Witte's GB solo build and use it. As for Grenth's footprint, you can solo that without any healing skills. Just get the dwarf to follow you around and heal you.

Crazyvietguy

Crazyvietguy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[Njk]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
What the hell are you people talking about? SOLO FARMING IS DEAD! Hmm.. thats wierd cause I just did a few runs of mosses and another place and made 30k in an hour... perhaps im just lucky.

Basically when it comes down to it, Soloing in Hard Mode is decent and yields similar drops to the "old GW solos" while Normal Mode gives you 1/8th the amount of drops.

and Soto, im interested in how you farm a ritualist boss. I think i'm going to start collecting those Tomes, as well as Monk. Those are crazy expensive at the moment.

Jcon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

only read a few posts, here is what I got

SOLO FARMING IS DEAD except for mo/d with mystic regen... So we all gotta go and make one now gogo

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

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Meh. Only place I can solo farm easily is Anvil Rock...cleared that whole area with just my W/E...came out of it with a quick platinum in cash, BEFORE I sold off everything.

Master Halbarad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Tyrian State Bank

R/E

I'm not going to say you should change your farming character, Absolute Destiny. But you really should gain access to hard mode and try farming more than one area. Expand out and look around on guru for warrior builds suitable for HM or make your own.

As for those of you that complain about farming being dead for "you", I suggest you don't solo farm whites and blues. Go with a party if you want to farm that stuff. Heck, they've made it to where in some places you could get a party of eight and let your henchies and heroes do all the work. This definately is not what I would do nor would it be fun, but its possible.

Lurid

Lurid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcon
only read a few posts, here is what I got

SOLO FARMING IS DEAD except for mo/d with mystic regen... So we all gotta go and make one now gogo Yea, keep thinking that while we go make new builds and find new spots to farm. Since farming the exact same spot as everyone else obviously yields the rarest loot.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
Meh. Only place I can solo farm easily is Anvil Rock...cleared that whole area with just my W/E...came out of it with a quick platinum in cash, BEFORE I sold off everything. Wow thats too leet for me.

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

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closed. reason: OP asking for farming builds. please look around before posting.