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peterchen620

Ascalonian Squire

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Lion Arch Guards

W/Mo

01 May 2007 at 09:45 - 1

Might be an interesting topic to discuss.

We all know our next beloved game 'Guild Wars 2' will have new playable races other than humans, which is really unexpected by many fans of the current game. After viewing countless interviews, previews, and sneak peaks from different sources about the game, I thought to myself... Will there be Canthans/Elonians?

To me, this is a very interesting question I am asking myself, since my first main character is a canthan warrior and I like him a lot. I would like my descendant (You know... The hall of monument feature

) to be a canthan character and not Tyrian. Sure we can make character that looks like canthan characters, but the limited amount of facial features and hairstyle would still be going to be based on an 'european' style and not 'asian'. I don't have any problems making a tyrian born characters if the customisability allows me to make a 'canthan' looking character, but yet... Still... This question still strikes me hard that it is not going to happen.

(Since I tried making a canthan looking character in Prophencies, doesn't work well)

GW2 will not have campaigns, which means no new races. So this certainly concerns me.

Yichi

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01 May 2007 at 09:48 - 2

i think they mean races like Charr, Human, Sylvari, Norn, etc...(basically races that dont use the human form). Not races like African, Caucasion or Asian....

peterchen620

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W/Mo

01 May 2007 at 09:50 - 3

What I am most concerned is whether the 'Human race' will have the ability to create... say... Asian, Caucasion, African through their customizability options. I'm not really keen on other races except for Sylvari.

Hockster

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01 May 2007 at 09:55 - 4

Why is this even remotely a concern when the game is two years away?

Corinthian

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01 May 2007 at 10:01 - 5

They should also include old and fat people. Haven't seen those around in GW.

Alex the Great

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01 May 2007 at 10:10 - 6

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Originally Posted by peterchen620

GW2 will not have campaigns, which means no new races. So this certainly concerns me.

expanisions?

lucifer_uk

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01 May 2007 at 10:12 - 7

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Originally Posted by Corinthian

They should also include old and fat people. Haven't seen those around in GW.

Hmmmmmm I'm not sure... I've seen a few fat warriors... and the grey hair is a bit ageing on characters.

Humans have been pushed to the edge of exsitinction by the rise of other races like the charr and unannounced races. So who knows if the Canthans and Elonians are even around anymore.

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

01 May 2007 at 10:15 - 8

With the word of GW:EN dealing primarily with Tyria, I too have become concerned with the loss of Canthans and Elonans. I find the cultures and peoples and environments of Cantha and Elona far more interesting than Tyria.

I don't think that I have to worry all too much about GW:EN considering they said you have to own "one" of the three campaigns to play GW:EN (not just Prophecies).

GW2, however, does concern me. I look forward to discovering what happens to all three continents that we have grown to know as the world of Guild Wars (no pun intended). I think it would be most wise to allow Human characters to choose between Elonan, Canthan or Tyrian descent in the beginning of character creation. Of course, like GW1, this could be a deciding factor that provides us with our options for face skins, hair options, etc...

After all, we can't just pretend the Elonans and Canthans never existed! Killing off these ethnicities would break the wonderful diversity that GW offered its players; this would also seem like a cop-out (lazy developers anyone?).

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Originally Posted by Hockster

Why is this even remotely a concern when the game is two years away?

Because the longer we wait to address this concern, the less time aNet has to consider its inclusion (have they not already). The sooner concerns are discussed and addressed the better.

peterchen620

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W/Mo

01 May 2007 at 10:28 - 9

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So who knows if the Canthans and Elonians are even around anymore.

I'm not sure about the elonians, but I am pretty sure that Canthan has their own main land to live on. It is not connected to Tyria mainland in anyway.

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They should also include old and fat people. Haven't seen those around in GW.

Like your humor, but we are not discussing about old/fat people right now.

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expanisions?

Expansion adds content, this does not necessarily mean that they will add new human race. Look at EoTN as an example. Though I can be wrong... Lets hope for the best.

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The sooner concerns are discussed and addressed the better.

That is why I am writing this. Thank you for understanding. I, too, share the same thought as you.

lucifer_uk

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01 May 2007 at 10:42 - 10

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Originally Posted by peterchen620

I'm not sure about the elonians, but I am pretty sure that Canthan has their own main land to live on. It is not connected to Tyria mainland in anyway.

Very true, but when we left cantha there was still plagued people and the population and imperial guard had been ravaged by the event and attack.

The Kurzicks and Luxons continue to fight so an unseen attack by a new race from the south of the mainland could easily catch them off guard.

There's just no knowing any facts yet, other than the official statements regarding GW2 and the fact the human populace will be reduced by the rise of new races.

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

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01 May 2007 at 10:48 - 11

I'm sure GW2 will have much more customization options than what we have in GW now. Maybe even something like Sims 2 face creations system? o_O

Etta

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01 May 2007 at 10:51 - 12

Wait! What's the name of the world GW is set in? Earth 2, Anetron or was it call Tyria as well?

eremos

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01 May 2007 at 11:11 - 13

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Originally Posted by Etta

Wait! What's the name of the world GW is set in? Earth 2, Anetron or was it call Tyria as well?

Tyria. Um, was that sarcasm? My bad.

Maybe the tunnels that the Asurans move about in go under the sea all the way to Cantha!

Edit: Oh lordy. From wiki:

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The Depths of Tyria are a network of caves which run underneath and between the three known continents of the world of Tyria.

Perhaps the same tunnels show up in GW2, which would mean you should be able to create a char "from" there.

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

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01 May 2007 at 13:07 - 14

Hm... "Takuna Rhaknas moved to Tyria and got caught in a time-trap-thingamajig. He woke up a hundred years later." Sorted... Alternatively, he could have left a legacy that someone of like-heart-and-mindedness would be able to pick up.

That sorts out the whole RP side of it. After all, it's a long time.
Still, yes, the faces would all still be European... I hope we get a wide variety. In fact, I hope we get a huge variety and masses of options. Rather than just faces, how about eyes, mouth, etc. also? I hate it when I find a character that has the same face as me. That's one reason I chose a face that looked most like mine rather than the best-looking one.

RTSFirebat

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01 May 2007 at 13:20 - 15

Canthans and Elonians are humans... they are not a "race". Humans will be playable along with the new races.

Bryant Again

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01 May 2007 at 13:20 - 16

Guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe when you select to be the Human race, there'll be sub-races (not that they're different) of Canthan, Elonian and Tyrian. That, or there will just be numerous faces to pick from and you can pretend to be Elonian.

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Originally Posted by peterchen620

Like your humor, but we are not discussing about old/fat people right now.

It's still related to the same idea - deeper character customization.

Also, good point, RTS. That's why I mentioned that tidbit next to subraces.

creelie

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Alberta

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Mo/

01 May 2007 at 13:28 - 17

This is a concern that has been brought up before: that the availability of multiple races will be used as an excuse for having only a tiny number of character customization options, most of which look like ass, leading to clones everywhere.

Zeander

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01 May 2007 at 14:14 - 18

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Originally Posted by Corinthian

They should also include old and fat people. Haven't seen those around in GW.

I beg to differ! Nightfall introduced fat and old heroes. Norgu the Mesmer is fat and has never met a buffet table he didn't like. Then we have Dunkoro who is like 50+ with graying hair (well, what little hair he has).

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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01 May 2007 at 14:48 - 19

New game = new opportunity for character customization.

I like threads like this because they remind Anet that this is a concern to many players. One of the most important parts of a RPG is the ability to make characters we like.

The more customization, the better.

racerx2105

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01 May 2007 at 17:37 - 20

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Originally Posted by eremos

Maybe the tunnels that the Asurans move about in go under the sea all the way to Cantha!

We already know there are tunnels leading from Tyria to Canthan the dredge explain that they used those tunnels while being chased by Stone Summit.

So just like Nightfall it looks as if they might have build EoTN off of one line in one of the campaigns.

mrmango

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Me/Rt

02 May 2007 at 00:49 - 21

This isn't a lord question... imo.

And I think Anet will allow for different styles of humans, but Tyria might change in 100 or whatever years.

Eldin

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America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

02 May 2007 at 02:03 - 22

GW:EN will focus mainly on, around, and under Tyria.

I don't know why, but I can't shake the feeling GW2 will focus mainly around Tyria as well.

They may make humans customizable to the point where you can make them look Canthan, Elonian, etc, though they probably will all share the same starting point.

Personally I just love Tyria and, if only one of these groups of humans will be present in the game, it'd best be Tyrians.

Cjad the Nord

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02 May 2007 at 04:07 - 23

I also like Tyria the best, in terms of landscape and background lore, but I would love to be able to create Canthan and Elonian characters in appearance.

peterchen620

Ascalonian Squire

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W/Mo

02 May 2007 at 04:10 - 24

A lot of interesting points being brought up by many people other than myself. It is good to hear that I am not the only one that is concern about this matter.

DragonMasterMooMoo

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08 May 2007 at 01:20 - 25

I would have to agree with most of these statements. But even though we are getting "new" races, what about the other important ones? Like the Tengu and the Centaurs, they are important non-human races as well. I don't want them to be left behind.

Blauwe Tomaat

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R/

10 May 2007 at 06:45 - 26

The list of races they have now is not yet final, so there is still hope...

GreatLich

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14 May 2007 at 10:32 - 27

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Originally Posted by Zeander

I beg to differ! Nightfall introduced fat and old heroes. Norgu the Mesmer is fat and has never met a buffet table he didn't like. Then we have Dunkoro who is like 50+ with graying hair (well, what little hair he has).

Little Thom and the old-looking male ele face have been around since release... fat and old have been with us for a long time already (although a playable fat char isn't)

Rainbird

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R/

14 May 2007 at 11:48 - 28

I'm not sure where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that I read that ANet are gonna make releases for GW2 that will bring us back Cantha and Elona

Free Runner

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14 May 2007 at 19:59 - 29

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Originally Posted by Rainbird

I'm not sure where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that I read that ANet are gonna make releases for GW2 that will bring us back Cantha and Elona

Not sure its ever been stated but yeah it would not make sense for Anet to leave out Cantha and Elona (Especially Elona after the events of Nightfall) in their GW2 version.I suspect expansions and the races of Canthan/Elonian become avaliable with these campaigns.

I would love to be able to select which culture your character came from though like for example you choose your human character to be a Luxon native or Krytan...or for the Tengu you can choose to come from the Caromi.

Con89

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Mo/

26 May 2007 at 23:46 - 30

GW 2 is going to be almost similar to most mmos like World of Warcraft. They are adding a dungeon system, new races that will each have their alliances, world pvp, etc. All the info is located here -----> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2 . Personally I think that this approach is going to make GW 2 a great game, but I'm sure a lot of people like Guild Wars the way it is and would not like a drastic change in the game.

Free Runner

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27 May 2007 at 12:17 - 31

Erm not sure what exactly that has to do with this thread. This thread is a discussion as to if GW2 will have options to be Canthan,Elonian ect. Pretty sure we all know the details on GW2 with the amount of threads and previews

Onarik Amrak

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Astral Revenants

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27 May 2007 at 12:36 - 32

All these people say this/that MMO is similar to WoW.

Does anyone stop and think that WoW is similar to every MMO before it?

GW has innovation. WoW has Blizzard's rep.