Necro Minion Question(s)

Max27588

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

I have afew Questions about Necromancer Minions, (flesh golem, bone fiends ect)
First of all, what are they classed as? Allys? Creatures? Animals? Undead?
If so, what spells are they effected by? Shouts, Chants, Spirits ect?
Many thanks for your help.

Stiltzkin

Stiltzkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Aetna

Dark Siderz

Mo/Me

They are somewhere between creature and ally. The only things that effect them are spells that directly target them. ex. Blood of the Master, Death Nova, Heal area, etc..

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Minion

should answer your questions

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I class them as minions. They are affected by everything but are especially susceptible to holy damage. The big difference is that with the exception of the flesh golem they leave no exploitable corpse. I have been told that they do not like monk heals and although the spells heal them, it accelerates their rate of degeneration. I have not confirmed this, but will not use Heal Area on them, better to use necro minion heals on them, like Blood of the Master.

Max27588

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

So does this mean they would be effected by Paragon Shouts/Chants?

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max27588
So does this mean they would be effected by Paragon Shouts/Chants?
No. that was fixed in a recent update. Shouts and Chants no longer affect spirits and minions.

brennerv

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Armada of Heaven

I think minions still count as allies--that's why paragon shouts used to apply to them, because they used to target all allies. Then not long ago they changed it so all paragon shouts only affect party members, thus they no longer affect minions.

Max27588

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

.....there goes my idea for a N/P MM.... damn you NCSoft
Anyway Thanks for clearing that up for me guys... hm.. what to make now tho.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff Mon
I have been told that they do not like monk heals and although the spells heal them, it accelerates their rate of degeneration. I have not confirmed this, but will not use Heal Area on them, better to use necro minion heals on them, like Blood of the Master.
That is a complete and utter myth. I'm surprised it's still floating around out there.

Max27588

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

So how about Warrior Shouts such as, "Watch Yourself"? and stuff?
What does/doesnt effect them? :S *recheck*

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
That is a complete and utter myth. I'm surprised it's still floating around out there.
Yay! I'm glad, just took a couple of people's word on it when I was in groups using Heal Area on my minions and they started to rag on me for doing it.

Squeeze that one back into my skill bar....

eightyfour-onesevenfive

eightyfour-onesevenfive

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max27588
So how about Warrior Shouts such as, "Watch Yourself"? and stuff?
What does/doesnt effect them? :S *recheck*
"Watch Yourself!" states it affects "party members" only. Minions are not party members but some special sort of allies. As such, they are affected by "Charge!", for example (at least the last time I checked).

Giga Strike

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

i dont think they're affected by charge. whenever a person uses charge my groups minions always fall behind.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

Charge does affect minions. I just tested it to confirm.

Minions will often take a second to get moving. And if they take too long they may be out of the range of a shout. That might be why yours are falling behind.