Bot mania in Bergen hot springs
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to make a Bot you need to macro, keystokes recorded, that's why they move so funny, simple solution and won't harm ANYONE i bet has been suggested to the death, DON'T MAKE SIGNS TARGETABLE
Firebaall
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Originally Posted by TheRaven
The other day I was in Granite Citadel and I saw 2 bots that were stuck continually bumping into each other.
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I was there too. I was amazed at the sheer amount of bots. They looked like an army of ants at a picnic! I was there with my monk in black tattoos, and was feeling a bit nervous about being there (I don't want any "guilty by being a monk n' tattoo association" calls being made....lol).
At least mine were dyed, instead of the "greys" walking around.
Narcism
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Originally Posted by white wolfgang
It is completely out of control in Bergen Hot Springs
The Bots are streaming out the door This just messes things up for the rest of us. I know Anet trys to get rid of them but it seem the nerf bat comes first then we suffer. Please get rid of them not because they are cutting into my slice of the pie but they ruin the FUN of the game!!!! Yes I am having fun right now with this hard mode change and would just like it to last a little while |
Are they taking away your drops? lol no.
If each one of those bots were a person, would you still have a problem?
If you answer no (Which you won't), then the fact that they are bots and not people, never affects you, at all.
If you answer yes (which you will, obviously, because you don't think things through too well)
I imagine it means you want this place to solo to yourself, and bots "exposed" it and ruined your selfish little money-making fun.
Because there couldnt' be any other reason to answer yes.
I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.
Nemo the Capitalist
i love bots they r fun to watch
IllusiveMind
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Those undead rangers are pretty easy to get gold dead bows from The Astralarium has an even worse bot problem though. |
white wolfgang
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Originally Posted by Narcism
How are they cutting into your slice of pie?
Are they taking away your drops? lol no. If each one of those bots were a person, would you still have a problem? If you answer no (Which you won't), then the fact that they are bots and not people, never affects you, at all. If you answer yes (which you will, obviously, because you don't think things through too well) I imagine it means you want this place to solo to yourself, and bots "exposed" it and ruined your selfish little money-making fun. Because there couldnt' be any other reason to answer yes. I don't feel the least bit sorry for you. |
Christ all mighty why do people have to flame?
My point is that the game mechanic seems to get changed when the bots show up. I don't want it for myself. Everyone can do this. I also point out that it is fun and isn't that the major motovational factor for playing a GAME.
The hard mode has brought back some fun to the game and I just want it to last for a little while before ANet makes a decision to change it because of the number of Bots. Period!
Please don't now turn around bash because I choose to enjoy aspects of the game that you may not.
Alunher Dragonblade
We all know that bots are bad..
A-net knows that bots are bad..
Therefore everyone (excluding the botters) knows bots are bad
A-bet should give us the power to stop the botters! I duno how giving us a bot kick button or something!!
A-net knows that bots are bad..
Therefore everyone (excluding the botters) knows bots are bad
A-bet should give us the power to stop the botters! I duno how giving us a bot kick button or something!!
Narcism
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Originally Posted by white wolfgang
Christ all mighty why do people have to flame?
My point is that the game mechanic seems to get changed when the bots show up. I don't want it for myself. Everyone can do this. I also point out that it is fun and isn't that the major motovational factor for playing a GAME. The hard mode has brought back some fun to the game and I just want it to last for a little while before ANet makes a decision to change it because of the number of Bots. Period! Please don't now turn around bash because I choose to enjoy aspects of the game that you may not. |
PERFECT
You should be thanking bots, because if Anet decides to buff creatures there they'll be making a relatively easy "hard mode section", harder, thus satisfying you!
But wait, are you saying the mission will be made too difficult and you won't be able to beat it? because of possible counters or skills added to the mob?
PERFECT
Because I'm sure any "nerf" that ArenaNet does will only affect those farming solo and will barely affect party players!
If you called that flaming, I just see that as a way to discredit my post without addressing the points I brought up.
Alunher Dragonblade
Didn’t think about that one 
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Err you have to earn the right to use one....
You got me on a technicality but I am sure A-net could think of some way to keep it under control.
!Err you have to earn the right to use one....
You got me on a technicality but I am sure A-net could think of some way to keep it under control.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Narcism
I'm going to pretend you forgot to think through the fact that giving 9 year olds a bot kick button wasn't a good idea.
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Bryant Again
Isn't there loot scaling?
starlitesunset
the way to fix this is just add somethin g simple to the merchant such as a random word, u fill in which changes all the time. then the bots wont be as productive
KamikazeChicken
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
... Ask them?
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Narcism
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
No offense intended, and I sincerely hope I'm mistaken... but you are certainly giving the impression that you yourself actually uses bots. There's no logical reason I can think of for actually taking a defensive stance towards bots.
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I don't use bots.
No offense, but anyone who wants bots banned are selfish.
People usually want bots banned because:
-You work hard to farm that area or other areas, and you don't want somebody taking easy mode. EVEN THOUGH THIS NEVER AFFECTS YOU.
-You think bots will encourage Anet to nerf your farm area, this will hurt your income, thus you propose to ban bots, again.. for personal gain.
-You take an easy way out and say it's for the good of the economy. Wrong, people who say this just want their items to be worth more and the gold THEY farm to be worth more.
And honestly, there isn't a problem with the economy, I manually farm once every 4 months for a day, and sell stuff like minipets, and I still manage to get multiple sets of 15k armor.
So what is it? why SHOULD bots be banned?
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Narcism
So what is it? why SHOULD bots be banned? |
Because, from a game perspective, it's illegal.
Your turn. Why should it be ok for people to break the rules?
Pkest
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Isn't there loot scaling?
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Doesn't really matter for two reasons:
1) There seems to be a difference in drops for bunched up melee mobs and spread out ranged attacking mobs. I solo farmed there over the weekend in normal mode for cupcakes and got a drop from almost every kill.
2) The bots are likely farming in hard mode and selling the golds as unid for 1k each (the new quick cash).
Narcism
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Because they are primarily used to violate the EULA by harvesting gold for sale for real world cash. Because using the bots violates the EULA.
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"Bots should be banned because they violate the EULA" that's so noble of you. If you want to punish people violating the EULA, so you can get that feel good attitude, wait for people to swear in Lion's Arch and report them.
If you dont' report them? why not? because it doesn't bother you right? so why would you want to ban bots? they must bother you right? and why do they bother you? if it was because they're against the EULA, you'd be reporting people swearing left right and center.
That's what I'm trying to get at.
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Your turn. Why should it be ok for people to break the rules?
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-It doesn't affect me.
-It doesn't threaten ANYONE, it's not putting ANYONE in danger.
It may be illegal, but it's not hurting anyone.
So why should I go out of my way and lobby for these people?
words can heal
i know the perfect counter have multiple spawn points in every outpost, and make it so the default : button for targeting nearest object doesn't work
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Narcism
Banning bots will not stop gold harvesting. You are aware if bots are stopped are somehow IN MAGIC LAND completely thwarted. They will be replaced by farm companies located in Asia, played by human players, and it will still be an issue.
"Bots should be banned because they violate the EULA" that's so noble of you. If you want to punish people violating the EULA, so you can get that feel good attitude, wait for people to swear in Lion's Arch and report them. If you dont' report them? why not? because it doesn't bother you right? so why would you want to ban bots? they must bother you right? and why do they bother you? if it was because they're against the EULA, you'd be reporting people swearing left right and center. That's what I'm trying to get at. |
Regardless, it's irrelevant. The rules are the rules. If you agree to play the game, you agree to the rules. If you don't like the rules, find a game with rules you like.
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The same reason as if there were a grow-op 3 blocks down, I woudln't report them to the police or lobby for them being banned. -It doesn't affect me. -It doesn't threaten ANYONE, it's not putting ANYONE in danger. It may be illegal, but it's not hurting anyone. So why should I go out of my way and lobby for these people? |
What in the name of Lyssa's left mammary is a grow-op?
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
So, basically, you have no respect for the law. Fortunately for a civilized society, you are in the minority.
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Respecting the law "just because it's the law" without any further clarification is a non-starter that describes almost no-one.
Painbringer
To solve the bot problem A-net needs to pipe in all cities Styx’s “Mr. Roboto” If someone starts to dance then you got yourself a bot 
LONGA
Well.Bots do use server resources.Any company would get rid of those non-profitable expenses.
Imagine if bot and players ratio become something like 5:1.Would you continue serving the game.Or just pack the server and gone.
If you ever read any article about gold farmers you will see that.Gold farmers do it because they dont have any better things to do for a living.I think A-net do try to get rid of them.But gold farmers will never quit untill nobody use thier services.
So if anyone say bots dont affect them,think again.So many good Online games ruined by the similar scenario.
Imagine if bot and players ratio become something like 5:1.Would you continue serving the game.Or just pack the server and gone.
If you ever read any article about gold farmers you will see that.Gold farmers do it because they dont have any better things to do for a living.I think A-net do try to get rid of them.But gold farmers will never quit untill nobody use thier services.
So if anyone say bots dont affect them,think again.So many good Online games ruined by the similar scenario.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Narcism
See.. I'm the guy who doesn't use P2P, and just doesn't care other people don't. Same with speed limits.
Not familiar with P2P, and speed limits save lives, so I'll chalk that one up to another bad example. |
Lothlorian Sassun
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Originally Posted by TomD22
2000 a week!? Every week? So that's 102000 bot accounts banned per year, potentially up to 204000 in the two years gw has existed. You claimed a while back to have hit 2m sales so around 10% of them were bots. Although I guess when the game was newer there were fewer, and I'm assuming your ban rate has been steady. And then of course there's all the ones you don't find/ban....but still, as a rough figure, that's a whole lot of bots. Much bigger business than I would have thought, I'm really surprised at the implied scale of it.
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VitisVinifera
wow I saw this firsthand myself. Yep, classic bot behavior. It's the conga line of virtually identical bots with those chinese-ish names / poorly attempted to be english names.
the funny thing is when I go out to do the same thing they are doing, I look (only physically) just like them........except I'm Mo/D (female with buns and poorly dyed scar pattern)
the funny thing is when I go out to do the same thing they are doing, I look (only physically) just like them........except I'm Mo/D (female with buns and poorly dyed scar pattern)
Sir Skullcrasher
Is bots really that bad?
lightblade
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Originally Posted by Narcism
I'm going to pretend you forgot to think through the fact that giving 9 year olds a bot kick button wasn't a good idea.
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lightblade
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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Is bots really that bad?
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Just pretend you're a bot and start farming like them. You'll soon realize how little you're getting.
Liberations
Go to plaync.com and then find the knowledge base/support/ w.e
Using that section you can report anyone. They ALWAYS give personal responses back considering your problem, so in addition to this I would suggest reporting. Im going to report some myself if I see any.
Using that section you can report anyone. They ALWAYS give personal responses back considering your problem, so in addition to this I would suggest reporting. Im going to report some myself if I see any.
Lothlorian Sassun
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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Is bots really that bad?
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Obey The Cat
Lol what are you talking about? Can't see any bot in European or international districts, sorry. There are 4-10 farmers per district.
Artkin
DO SOMETHING ANet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean WTF...you do everything else to legit players, but allow bots to run all over the place?
I mean WTF...you do everything else to legit players, but allow bots to run all over the place?
lightblade
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Originally Posted by Artkin
DO SOMETHING ANet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean WTF...you do everything else to legit players, but allow bots to run all over the place? |
READ BEFORE YOU POST!!
Dahl
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Originally Posted by the_jos
Bots farming undead HM (Holy Damage = double damage).
Probably gold Dead Bows. |
Dahl
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Actually, we do do something. We ban about 2,000 bots a week.
I've reported this location to make sure that this map is on the special watch list, as well. Thanks. |
I'd hire a new employee to just sit in gw all day and check all the towns in all the regions and kick obvious bots all the time.
I'm sure you've lost a lot of legit players who are just fed up with the inequality of the botting, and have probably lost a lot of sales because of it. Bots were around before factions even came out. 1 more salary to pay is no big deal compared to the huge amount of money you'll make back with continued sales.
Dahl
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Originally Posted by lightblade
Its really not that bad...
Just pretend you're a bot and start farming like them. You'll soon realize how little you're getting. |
Mesmer in Need
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Actually, we do do something. We ban about 2,000 bots a week.
I've reported this location to make sure that this map is on the special watch list, as well. |
Frazzy
If ANET actually cared about bots, there would be no more bots right now. So don't try to get them to actually fix a bot problem because they simply do not care.
lightblade
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Originally Posted by Dahl
how little you're getting? these bot farmers make well over a mil in an hour. they run multiple accounts. its not 1 bot per person you know. 1 person may very well control 3 dozen bots at a time.
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How many copies of Guild Wars can you run on your computer? That takes a lot of investment for these things while the rate of return is unpredictable. I don't think anyone smart will make this kind of investment.
Bots are not a problem, because their efficiency is very VERY low. However, those may not be bots and simply professional gold farmers that doesn't use bot but they're real human controled.
NJudson
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Originally Posted by lightblade
Bots are not a problem, because their efficiency is very VERY low.
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