What's up with sup abs runes?
The Bard
trader doesn't have them and people who do have 1 are selling for 20-70k o_O last time i checked i think they were like 300 gold or something... so is the trader really paying alot for the rune or are they just scammers? :P
Theus
No.They're not scammers.
They're simply taking advantage of the current situation.
As for why its out..
/shrug
They're simply taking advantage of the current situation.
As for why its out..
/shrug
Tahlia Tane
Whoa, 70k!? I think I'll salvage the rune from my armor if true!
Pandora's box
Never pay more than the official price at the shop, even if they are sold out for the moment.
Kas
The traders are fubar. They keep on losing runes from their stock and can't rebuild it for some reason. Some runes have completely vanished from the traders though if someone were to sell the trader one he'd offer 25g.
Don Zardeone
Sup channeling was out of stock for a while too
zwei2stein
Cosnidering that was majority of sup runes goes directly to merchant thanks to their 25g trader purchase price and human lazyness to check for changes, i am not suprised runes run out every while.
Maybe if merchants gave trader prices for respective goods AND when such item is sold to mechant it would be added to traders stockpile. Great timesaver, ensures that runes are avaiable, and fixes preser dye scam too ...
Maybe if merchants gave trader prices for respective goods AND when such item is sold to mechant it would be added to traders stockpile. Great timesaver, ensures that runes are avaiable, and fixes preser dye scam too ...
Orbberius
Wow, superior absorption is not worth anywhere near that. I don't even use one on my PvP warrior armors anymore.
aaT
I actually got two of these runes in a trip just today, I went over to the rune trader and to see if they were worth anything, and none were available. I salvaged one to find it's 25g, and gave it to Koss... but if you want to buy one for 70k, I'll happily make that trade with you. 
Yawgmoth
Sup Absorbs are bugged and have been this way since 2005.
They just can't auto restock at trader when sold out.
As long as trader has some in stock everything works fine but when the last one gets purchased, their buy price resets and trader refuses to pay it's old price and no matter how many runes you sell to him his stock will remain 0.
Most other runes work fine - buy out all of a rune, then sell 1, it immediately appears for sale with price unaffected.
I was able to reproduce this bug at beta servers a few days ago - look at screenshot:
As long as trader had at least one, he was paying full price, but after buying last he got 'bugged'.
(the high price of 48k buy was because prices on beta were stuck at their level from around Factions release)
This is happening on live server from time to time as this bug hasn't yet been fixed.
They just can't auto restock at trader when sold out.
As long as trader has some in stock everything works fine but when the last one gets purchased, their buy price resets and trader refuses to pay it's old price and no matter how many runes you sell to him his stock will remain 0.
Most other runes work fine - buy out all of a rune, then sell 1, it immediately appears for sale with price unaffected.
I was able to reproduce this bug at beta servers a few days ago - look at screenshot:
As long as trader had at least one, he was paying full price, but after buying last he got 'bugged'.
(the high price of 48k buy was because prices on beta were stuck at their level from around Factions release)
This is happening on live server from time to time as this bug hasn't yet been fixed.
The Bard
so will the trader ever have superior absorption runes again? 
and if anyone's got 1 to sell for a reasonable price, say 300g? :P, let me know lol
and if anyone's got 1 to sell for a reasonable price, say 300g? :P, let me know lol
Bryant Again
Ah crap, they haven't gone back up to 90k again, have they? *Groan*
Here's hoping people selling them for 70k are way overpricing them.
Here's hoping people selling them for 70k are way overpricing them.
kumarshah
lol 70k for a sup abs. never.
fenix
Well, the way I see it, Sup Absorb is no longer worth bringing on a warrior. The 3 damage is average, even vs all damage. But it's only vs physical. So there's really no point bringing it over say, Vitae, or Clarity/Restoration. Since a lot of people also think this way, they aren't buying the runes, or selling to trader as they don't have them.
NeHoMaR
WHY you need a reduction of 3 PHYSICAL damage in a Warrior? This is madness!
Chestnut
lol, Another point where guild wars lies to us.. and says trader is baesd on supply and damand.... A.net fix your stuff please.. and by "Fix" no.. I don't mean NERF the heck out of it.
LifeInfusion
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WHY you need a reduction of 3 PHYSICAL damage in a Warrior?
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Knight's armor isn't.
Off the top of my head uses of -physical damage:
Any form of melee mob farming
Any form of ranger mob farming
So yeh, they aren't very useful.
Blame the Monks
IMO, every PvE warrior should use a sup abs. It makes a difference.
Spazzer
Please please please crash superior vigor.
If this bug is true, we can really screw with the economy even more.
Crash ecto, too.
If this bug is true, we can really screw with the economy even more.
Crash ecto, too.
Corinthian
I usually sell my runed armors if I'm sure they won't give more than 25 gp for the rune and I risk losing the armor which is worth usually almost 200gp... So why use Rune Trader? So just ID them, see if it's worth salving, if not, sell the whole armor to merchant.
Guildmaster Cain
You cant buy an item from a trader and resell it for a higher price, when the price is higher. The game remembers the ingame price of an item at the moment it is 'created'. So if you buy a Rune of Sup Abs for 100g, you can only sell it back for 100g. This is also the same reason why some items of the same kind and stats sell for different prices. At the time when they dropped or were bought, their rarity differed.
At least thats my observations so far. For instance I could sell a Ranger Rune of Minor Expertise for 3 TOTALLY different prices at the same merchant at the same time. Thats my explanation for this observation. Game remembers rarity and embeds this in the item's code.
At least thats my observations so far. For instance I could sell a Ranger Rune of Minor Expertise for 3 TOTALLY different prices at the same merchant at the same time. Thats my explanation for this observation. Game remembers rarity and embeds this in the item's code.
Corinthian
So it's impossible to stock up with runes and sell them later when their value is higher?? How LAME.
bilateralrope
I sold a sup absorb to the trader the other day and it wasn't in stock right afterwards, so I think the trader is broken. However I was only offered about 25 gold for it, until I used an ID kit on the rune and the price went up to about 200 gold.
deluxe
who uses absorbtion anyway? rune of clarity => absortion x10.
Mysterial
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
You cant buy an item from a trader and resell it for a higher price, when the price is higher. The game remembers the ingame price of an item at the moment it is 'created'. So if you buy a Rune of Sup Abs for 100g, you can only sell it back for 100g. This is also the same reason why some items of the same kind and stats sell for different prices. At the time when they dropped or were bought, their rarity differed.
At least thats my observations so far. For instance I could sell a Ranger Rune of Minor Expertise for 3 TOTALLY different prices at the same merchant at the same time. Thats my explanation for this observation. Game remembers rarity and embeds this in the item's code. |
On to the rune problem. The issue here is that Superior Absorption (in this case) isn't actually in high demand. It's in low demand. However, nobody's selling any to the trader, so it still doesn't have any.
Here's an example: Let's say people buy 1,000 Superior Protection runes a day, and sell to it 800 per day. Let's say they buy 100 Superior Absorption runes per day and sell to it 80. In both cases, the trader runs out in the same time, but Protection runes are in significantly higher demand and (rightfully) have a higher price.
The current method also prevents players exploiting the system by holding out on selling. If the price is based solely on buying rate, it becomes impossible to force the price higher by simply holding out on your runes. It is more beneficial to sell the ones you don't need, rather than holding on to them, which in theory keeps the trader stocked.
The problem is that in many cases the merchant offers a higher price for runes, particularly superior runes still in their monster armor, than the rune trader would offer. Thus, it is more beneficial to merchant those runes, and so the trader ends up running out of stock even on runes that sell a handful per day (and have a low price as a result).
Cataclysm
I just wish they would make it -3 from ALL sources again
HawkofStorms
Even if people are trying to sell at that price, nobody is going to be buying. They might as well be spamming WTS Sup absortion rune for 100k + 900 ectos. Either way, it doesn't change the actual "value" of an object if nobody buys it.
Oofus
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Ah crap, they haven't gone back up to 90k again, have they? *Groan*
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
You cant buy an item from a trader and resell it for a higher price, when the price is higher. The game remembers the ingame price of an item at the moment it is 'created'. So if you buy a Rune of Sup Abs for 100g, you can only sell it back for 100g. This is also the same reason why some items of the same kind and stats sell for different prices. At the time when they dropped or were bought, their rarity differed.
At least thats my observations so far. For instance I could sell a Ranger Rune of Minor Expertise for 3 TOTALLY different prices at the same merchant at the same time. Thats my explanation for this observation. Game remembers rarity and embeds this in the item's code. |
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by Mysterial
Actually, it's that the trader will never buy below merchant price, so if the merchant price is higher than the trader would like to offer, it offers the merchant price instead. The merchant price, as far as I've ever seen, is random within a range defined by the item's rarity, and is determined at item creation.
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Has anyone sent an email to support about this yet ?
Cykasm
Ha Damn 
I traded one earlier. Wasnt even thinking just hit sell on all my runes.
I traded one earlier. Wasnt even thinking just hit sell on all my runes.
kazjun
May not be a bug. Could really just be that there is no supply. I know that every sup absorb rune I've found has either gone to koss/goren (and I only have so many koss/gorens...) or I've simply sold straight to the merch without salvaging. Do that with almost all runes/insignias actually. You get almost the same price anyway and it saves time. Hardly worth the effort for a few hundred gp's.