A Much Needed 'Thank you, A-Net!' Thread.

hehe my thank you is for the GWWC Season (yes, season 1). I still look back at videos of that and remember how much ass Guild Wars kicked. It isn't as good in terms of PvP now, but I think the game has advanced in other ways (Hard Mode for example, all the new things).

As a whole, there's lots of things I'd change, but Guild Wars is still my favourite game

Well spoken, true kidness costs nothing but gives everything! keep up the good work Anet

That goes both ways but other threads get spammed to death by those who only want to praise ArenaNet instead of talking about the issues and points of the thread.

As for me, they have my $900 (Many many accounts & CEs and character slots) before I paid enough attention at how they were taking this game. Now I wish I had only spent the 150...

Eh, they are a company out for money and have to be nice and do events to try and keep the majority of the customers happy and buying their products.
Nothing charitable about them that deserves thanks.

2 years, with a constantly growing playerbase...they are obviously doing something right.

Thanks A. Net

The goal of a 'Thanks!' thread is a response like this, and a hope that thanking them will somehow motivate them to fix all the problems we bring up constantly. The creation of a 'Thanks!' thread is as self-serving as the people making the game, and is also useless.

What they are doing right is understanding economics and attempting to use people for the highest profit-margin possible. Yes, they're very good at selling games. Does that warrant any gratitude or good feelings? Maybe between themselves and those involved in design, but not from us.

Yeah, sure. Try to buy a copy of the game with 'Thank-you!'s. I'm sure they'll be more than willing to take that over cash. :/

See, here's what it boils down to. They don't "give" us anything. They aren't just giving us what we want, and certainly wont do so in the future. They'll continue to do what they're doing until the game doesn't sell, and then change tactics to make sales.

If Anet just 'gave me' what I wanted, then I might be inclined to thank them. But I don't really expect, or necessarily want that of them. So the world keeps spinnin'.

Thank you very much for a great game A-Net! I have looked years for a game that wouldn't get boring after a couple of hours of play and Guild Wars has done that for me.

I want to echo the thanks.

Admittedly the time I'm clocking on GW has been dying down recently due to RL stuff, but it's still a fun game with extremely pretty scenery (except for the Realm of Torment, which looks like the inside of someone's digestive system ).

Change isn't always good, but you guys do what you think is best and it's *impossible* to please everyone. Anyone who's run a D&D game (or similar) can probably vouch for that, and that's on a vastly smaller scale.

Keep up the good work... there *are* people out there who appreciate it.

Thank you ANet! Guild Wars is awesome and I'll continue buying anything you put out there *waits in anticipation for GW marchandise* I certainly hope Guild Wars 2 will be the start of a new, better community (minus those complaining because it sounds like they're having a very unenjoyable time).

Thank you Arena Net for 2 years of fun! This is best game I've ever played so far.. I love the constant changes in this game, that make it always different and I just adapt after every update and enjoy the game in a different way.

P.S: can't wait for GW:EN to come out

Compliments should be mutal. If we buy something in a shop, we say "Thank you" to the vendor and the vendor replies with a "Thank you", too.

Hence, though ArenaNet is a for-profit business, this should not keep us from showing our gratitude. We say "Thank you for this great game" and they say "Thank you for buying it".

Thanks ArenaNet for the best MMORPG ever !!! ( for me it will be the best MMO, hope the GW 2 will be better than GW 1 and WoW to ).

And for those ppl who dont like Hard mode, and latest updates, i only want to say that ArenaNets first goal was that they make a very special PvP game, not like WoW, or other MMO, and they dont want to copy example the WoW game, they want an original game, with an original skill system, and with hard mode and other updates, they have made GW a very original game. If you dont like GW now, than play WoW . And ArenaNet with the money from the 3 campaings, they will build a new game , the GW 2, and that will be free to ( no monthly fees ), ArenaNet is thinking for us, and not for the money ( see Blizzard with WoW or EVE online and other monthly fees MMOrpg games, these games are build only for to "generate lots of money" ).

So lets say, THANK's for ARENANET ppl

P.S. sry for bad english

And uneducated opinions like this are self-serving and useless to a much further extent. How do you know my intent in making this post was to 'seduce', if you will, A-Net into fixing problems that people ahve been moaning about?

The sole purpose of this thread is to Thank A-Net and the team at A-Net for their hard work, because some days looking at these boards and all the ungrateful people on them is depressing for me. So I can't imagine how it would be for someone who has worked so hard to make such a great game. I know I appreciate hearing a 'thank you' every once in a while, and I'd imagine so do the A-Net employees.

Thanks once again, A-Net! ^_^

Wonderfully put.
There isn't one single forum/thread here that I don't see this happening... When will people realize how fortunate they are that Anet even reads the forums and provide constant feedback. Maybe Anet should become like other game developers and not give a rats ass to what the community has to say and charge everyone for their submissiveness.

If you need to critise Anet's decisions, do you really need to do it as you do now? Anet always gives formal, informative, clear, updates to what they do, plan and think, and all just respond offensive and aggressively. Don't you think Anet offers a lot more right now than most game developers? Is this behavior even remotely likely to get your points accross, make things better? Are you all just ungrateful spoiled infantile players that just can't be bothered to make the slightest effort to be constructive when the developers of the game you play try to mantain an open channel of communication?

Sorry if I'm being rude, but I think that a lot of this community needs a wake up call to see what amazing opportunity they are wasting away with this kind of attittude.

Mazik, thank you for making this thread, how true your words are. And a message directly to Gaile or anyone else on staff who reads these forums: keep your chin up and know that there is a VAST and largely silent amount of people who agree whole heartedly that you deserve nothing buy thanks and praise for your work on Guild Wars.

As I've watched these forums degrade over the last year-ish, I've felt two things in empathy for Gaile and those at Anet. One is that I have felt sorry that you have had to read through these forums, and secondly I've been worried that you will walk away with the inacurate picture that the community as a whole thinks that Guild Wars needs to be changed this way or that.

I know that as an individual who reads these forums, it has been discouraging for me. I know that I post less and less on here, because frankly... what's the point? Almost anything you have to say positive about Guild Wars is going to get flamed.

Those who call the forums "the community" are so sadly mistaken. The constant negativity in the forums causes those of us who are positive on Guild Wars not to post. The true community, I believe, loves Guild Wars, and I know for one I am EXTREMELY thankful that Anet updates the game, listens to constructive feedback and takes a role in interacting with it's users.

Anyway, please don't let the negativity get you down, and just know that the majority of us love you guys and think you're doing FAR better than a good job. Even if we don't always post, we're out there. I've played video games since the days of pac man. Guild Wars has consumed my gaming life and I have poured far more hours into it than anything else I have played before. If you can convert me and my attention this long, you are certainly doing something right!

3 Cheers for Anet!!!!

Thanks for this great game more than 1700 hours played in two years for only 160 $ approximately (with a collector edition) over 6$/month is very cheap, and the game was great for me.

But to say the truth after the last nerf to farming I didn't play so much PvE over 6 hours in 2 weeks (normally I played over 1-2 hours every day), I think that this update is an error, because I don't like that they say me how do I play and less that they force me. I think that they said that the other players are forced to farm for the coolest items, for that reason we force you to play like the others, this is an error and anger many players. A better way to solve that is put more gold rewards in quest (3 ks for example) the income of farmers and questers would be similar and nobody will be damage.

Think that the damaged part are trolls or the bad players who don't like/love gw is an error too. I read these days lot of flames against these damaged players like "this it is not your game" after paying it, or "go to wow" these examples are flames also, but because their love guild wars unconditionally they aren't right because all update is good, it doesn't matter that it harms other players, and perhaps those players gotten upset with the product are nearest the new players who come. I think that damage some players, although they are minority (10-20%) isn't constructive but on the contrary is destructive. I don't like HA lammers builds why not a minor change that don't allow you to take more than 2 characters of the same class in your party?, nerf is never the answer.

Thanks for a game which DOES change during online play.

Thanks for a game which rewards me for thinking about my skill selection.

Thanks for a game which makes me think and adapt in different missions, in different regions and explorable areas.

Thanks for a game with pretty rich scenery.

Thanks for a game which has created a community, even if the community is contentious and cantankerous sometimes.

Thanks for a game which has put me into contact with some other great players instead of isolating me in my dim basement with Sportscenter in the background.

Thanks for a game which puts my pre-kindergarten daughter on my lap to admire the female elementalist dance.

So. Thanks for a game that's worth playing.

Lots of negative posts from others...

I didn't know love and jubilations are no longer appreciated by those who do not share our feelings...

For sure. I hate when they tell the kids basically "shut up and worship us", that's not healthy. (Well to be fair, only Gaile talks like that, no one else at Anet does.) I buy their games and they're ok, but you know, I don't wake up in a cold sweat at night wondering if I've spent enough time praising a company that exists mainly to take my money. And I'm certainly not going to be TOLD what to say by the CR.

I like how your first attempt at an insult is to call me "uneducated". xD I'm uneducated to your opinion, rofl.

You get a gold star today, kid. xD

Here:

This alone is an indication that I am correct. You've stated concern for the development team because the forums are full of discontent and whining.
So there. Your focus is already on how they react to the forums, and their state of mind while working on this so-called 'great game'.

Like I said, you're worried that the development team is 'depressed' by these forums, so your initiative was to lighten their moods, in hopes of it somehow having a positive effect on you in the future.

I obviously can't stop you from continually thanking them, but I am self motivated similarly, in that I wish for the moaning and groaning to continue, hoping that it will be effective at pointing out the issues to Anet, and bring about quick changes and updates to satisfy the paying customers.

ogre-mage, in those parts you quoted, nowhere does it say that mazik is trying to seduce them into fixing problems. Mazik is just concerned that the pointless Anet bashing around here is getting too depressing. I'm sure Anet would still continue fixing problems even if this thread didn't exist - after all, GW is their project and I'm sure they wouldn't want it to go completely wrong.
There is nothing wrong with thanking someone for a job well done, or for all the hard work they're putting into improving something. After all, good feedback includes both praise and pointing out the faults. Most of the posts in Guru just moan and groan mindlessly without any thought to good feedback, and even I get depressed when I look at all the people here who never seem to do anything else except bash Anet (and most of them only do it because everyone else is doing it - their posts rarely contain actual fact or proper feedback).

Oh, and paying customers? Hah. I think GW is well worth the 30-100 euro/dollar/whatever you pay for it. Everything else is just bonus that Anet doesn't even have to implement. I'm sure the game would be popular even if they cut down on updates, simply because the original content is enough to give anyone 30 dollars worth of satisfaction.
Once you start paying a monthly fee for a game, then you can start talking about satisfying the paying customers.

So yeah. If idiotic bashing and moaning and groaning is allowed, then why not praising? I for one actually LIKE the current state of the game. It is enjoyable for me. Sure, there are things that bother me (like bots, spamming, storage, all that stuff) but looking at the big picture of the game I have to say that GW is an incredibly fun and entertaining game. I love how the game changes over time when Anet tries out different things. I like the fact that Anet actually reads these forums and has someone who stays in touch with the fans, no matter how ungrateful wretches most of them are.
Most of all, I enjoy the fact that GW is a game where you can take a break for a few weeks or a few months, and still come back to it without losing a beat. Sure, there might have been large updates during that time, but it'll just make the game feel that much more new.

Anet, thank you for a great game that just keeps on giving wonderful experiences.

I agree with Perynne. Nowhere does it say that the OP wants them to change anything. Just because the development team is also human and like everyone appreciates compliments, the OP is "sucking up" to them?

For example, you said "Like I said, you're worried that the development team is 'depressed' by these forums, so your initiative was to lighten their moods, in hopes of it somehow having a positive effect on you in the future." Where on Earth/Tyria/Cantha/Elona do you get any justification for this comment? You can't prove anything in that statement except the fact that the OP was saying thank you. You should try giving without the hopes of getting back some time, because by the sounds of it that concept is inferior to you. That is what makes you sound uneducated, as educated as you may be.

You may not like handing out compliments, but some of us to. So here's a fat slapping double wammy (with cheese in the middle!) THANK YOU!

So what if the focus is on making the dev team more positive? Bashing them is more likely to make them stop reading the forum than it is to make them change something. One constructive post will trump ten flames every time.

My thanks to ANet for making such a fantastic game. The quality of the game would make a monthly fee completely justified, so thanks for making it so accessible.

The problem with these forums is that it's full of a bunch of Cindy Sheehans. They think that if there is something they don't like, they should be able to sit down with the president (of ANet), be able to name call AND have their thoughts acted on in a manner that pleases them.

Enjoy this sample post for the Cindy Sheehan types in Mad-Lib form:

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Is it just me or does ANet hate the __(class)___ class? After the latest nerf to __(overpowered/overused skill)___ there is nothing left to do but delete my character. All they care about is __(either PvE or PvP)__ and the rest of us get ignored. I've emailed them several times about this problem and gotten NOTHING back. ANet is stupid for not listening to the fans, and will pay since I will now be leaving Guild Wars for WoW. Perhaps my next post will be a poll to see "who thinks ANet should get off their lazy asses?"

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Please, you may WANT the complaining to continue, but I think Gaile hit the nail on the head describing the type of personality that acts this way:

Personally, I think your use of Cindy Sheehan is incredibly insensitive and rude. She lost her son. There is no comparison to what is going on here.

TabascoSauce

I personally don't think it's either insensitive or rude, but I also respect your opinion. I don't think it's insensitive or rude because I'm not throwing dirt in the face of the loss of her son. I have plenty of empathy for that. I have personally known someone who lost their life in Iraq, I have many friends and even a Guild Officer stationed in Iraq, and our Country as a whole deals with loss of life of our soldiers every day. I no way shape or form would I ever make fun, or light of the loss of someone's life.

However, there is a very strong parallel in terms of Cindy Sheehan's, and many posters to these forum's feelings of entitlement. Regardless of what an organizations decision's effect on a person is, it does not give that person a greater right to be heard than any of the rest of us.

If the concept of my drawing that parallel offends you, because there is a death involved, the I respect that and you are entitled to your opinion. But I am also entitled to mine and while I empathize with the loss of life, I'm able to seperate the issue and find it patently rediculous that Cindy Sheehan feels she is entitled to the president's ear. Much the same as I find it rediculous that some feel $49.95 entitles them to a chair at the ANet developers conference table.

Was there really no better analogy to use than using Cindy Sheehan? It really hits close to home for a lot of people, Burn Butt.

Nothing comes to mind. That is why I used it. Hey, she put herself in the public eye and has some pretty strong opinions. She doesn't seem to mind offending a lot of people, and I respect and would fight for her right to do so. Likewise, if my opinion offends you, I'm sorry it does. But the analogy holds, I can't walk around worrying about who I might offend either.

Thanks A. net.

Truly, its the best game i played.

you are whining they nerf farm. they should do it. more and more.
Farming is bad. for the economy, for the players, for the game. so they nerf it. doesn't it make sense?

Okay. Logically:

1) You would fight for Sheehans right to be heard, and by your own comparison also those forum whiners which constitute a small but vocal percentage of this forum.

But what is this?

Hm, so you want to mock and in so doing invalidate and deny Sheehan and the forum posters here who are a small but vocal percentage of this forum? I have heard those words before, I will fight to protect your right to say things, but never given with a collary that "oh, well, as long as it is what I think is proper and not ridiculous".

Irrespective of right or wrong, Sheehan and the posters of this forum have a venue to speak their mind. What you are saying is that as long as they agree with you, then their ideas, methods, and opinions are OK. If they do not, then they are not. Think bro. Publicity stunt = unreasonable demands. Stop watching CNN and their analysis of the news.

As to how that relates here, then try and imagine what would motivate someone to post that "nerd rage" quit message. They are probably young, or insecure, or just mad as heck. For the young, that is a stage of development where they do not have the maturity yet to see middle ground. For the insecure, it is a bad response but the best they have. For those mature and mad who post a rage-quit, then yeah go ahead and mock them.

How can you tell the difference? You can't. They all look alike.

You're going after the kids and the insecure as well as the adults who are just behaving badly. What other forum do they have?

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Sorry but these comments just couldnt go unchallanged. How dare you lable the whole HA community as ungrateful when anet are clearly in the wrong. If i went and messed up your pve what would you say. Oh thank you anet. I think not. So please dont even talk on topics you obviously have no idea about because you only make yourself look stupid, its like defending a priminister who has commited horrid war crimes. The HA community when anet first messed up sat back and told them how to fix it. Why is it 9 months later these changes we asked for came but even then we had kill count which totaly ruins and imbalances HA. What are you on drugs or something, because if you are it would explain why you think 9 months is not a long enough time to start making people frustrated which results in anet not deserving a thank you.

You obviously are secluded from the rest of the gw world such as HA so before you go commenting please educate yourself first. And just to let you know, anet did fail the whole HA communty, dont believe me eh, then go check the polll for 8v8. It was like 50 percent wanted 8v8 back and like 20 wanted 6v6. Check the kill count poll, 75 percent want kill count completly removed. Explain to me then please how this is not exactly failing the community being kill count has been here for so long now. If i was a singular person in terms of not liking HA at the moment. I wouldnt be so botherd if anet changed HA and i was the only one who didnt like it and everyone else did. Fact is everyone else hates it and so this is not me not getting what i want but the community not getting what they want. Why should i have to play a different game when i spent the same amount of cash on it as you did for changes which many players like me dont even want.

If anet wanted everyone to adpot this attitude then they would be bankrupt, it would be like oh soul reapin got nurfed so ok im quiting. Exactly, i hope you've seen the light now and this has made you realise you shouldnt run your mouth when you dont realise what your even saying. What they have done to the HA communty has not been the best for the game, thats why many top pvp guilds have disbanded, and many players have quit. Thats why many of my remaining pro HA friends playing are guildless because they find it hard to find a stable pvp guild. You call that the best for guild wars. If you do all i can say is your already lost in the world of denial.

And as for Galie, how many times does she replie to the HA community so to be honest shes not even dealing with us as you claim. Secondly, did you just say ungrateful again? Well im sorry for not being a sponge like you and accepting cheep stupid changes like the ones made to halls. You dont get ripped of by your bank because of a mistake and sit there not complaining do you. Rather you fight for your money back, can that not be classed as ungratefulness to. Im not ungrateful, im just angry along with the many other players of the HA community.

And as for thanking anet, can i thank anet for ruining HA and pvp. Wouldnt that just be moronic. Anet dont deserve any thanks and definately wont be getting any untill they fix HA and start producing the quality along with it as that had been doing since propochis up untill the release of 6v6.

thx for 8 vs 8 HA again and no more double fame weekends plz !

I think this topic is going a little off-topic now, but I have to respond. You seem to forget the fact that these forums aren't a representation of the entire community. Just because people here are complaining, doesn't mean everyone is. I don't pretend to know about HA, but what I do know is that
the players ON THESE FORUMS are certainly acting like a bunch of children.

Frankly, you should be grateful that ArenaNet actually take the time to read the forums. There aren't many other game companies out there who do. It is utterly childish and annoying when people take the "if I don't get what I want, stfu!" attitude towards others, which is what is generally happening to Anet. If I were an ANet employee I wouldn't take any of the suggestions seriously just because people don't know how to act civil. After all, how can an idea be a good one when the one/ones who thought of it act as if the World (or in this case ANet) owes them something.

If you can't find anything to have thanks for, thank them for the "old" HA then. By the sounds of your post it was utterly perfect then, which obviously means you must have been having a good time.

Tabasco, you're reading WAY too deep into what I was saying. I don't think you can find anywhere in what I have posted ever, the idea that I think people should NOT be allowed to post what they want. I've never advocated for a thread to be closed, an account to be banned or an opinion to be stiffled. Quite the contrary. I am 100% all about freedom of speech in the constitutional sense (all the way until speech breaks the law, such as shouting FIRE in a crowded theater).

What I have said is that I hope ANet knows that the good majority of people support their product and their efforts, even if we don't post all the time. I've said that I think some people are rediculous, rude, childish, etc. etc. but have never called for them to be silenced. I don't think that Sheehan has the "right" to instruct the president because she lost a son. Perhaps it's too polarizing a topic, but I find it analogous to Guild Wars players who feel they have the "right" to instruct the development team because they paid money for the game. I think it's silly and absurd. That doesn't have to be your opinion.

So let me ask you. Do you support my right to make the analogy, even if you disagree with it or find it insensative?

Amen Lydz! And my biggest concern is that ANet reads these forums and walks away thinking that players of Guild Wars have a negative view of everything. God knows we've seen Gaile exhibiting unusual levels of stress in this direction lately. I would imagine that if taken up a notch of negativity, that Gaile would stop reading the forums, and then where would we be? What's happening is that slowly ANet is being disconnected from the TRUE community by a negative force on these boards through a method of attrition. Slowly but surely, those of us who care about this game and have grown to love it, are being wedged out by those that would prefer to flame and complain.

Constructive criticism? I'm all for it! But how in the world can men and women of logic look at some of these posts and comments as constructive? How many forums are titled ANET FIX BROKEN "X". I open the forum to find out nothing is actually "broken" but instead someone has writen an opinion laced with hate, spite and self-centered words.

Anyway, ANet, I hope you know we're out here, and that we do love you guys!

I think these mindless supporters of Arenent are just afraid we, the complainers, would ruin their idol's image. So they hope creating enough number of Arenet-praising threads will change that. I think most of the complaints here are valid for Arenet to find where the problems are in order to fix them. I love GW and Arenet but it does not mean that I should always thank them for whatever they do to GW and that I should stop complaining about what I don't like.

If Arenet feel so depressed when reading our complaints and will eventually ignore them all like you mindless supporters believe, expect sales of future products from Arenet will go no where.

You can keep thanking Arenet for whatever they do, but please stop bashing those who complain.

Thx A-Net for this awesome game and having no censor for bad words!!!

Yep, THANK YOU ANET for trashing the one game I loved and turning me to WORLD OF WARCRAFT WHICH I NOW LOVE MORE!! Seriously, because I no longer enjoyed GW I stuck it out with WoW and can't get enough. Once again, thank you.

HA! Imagine that. A proud complainer who doesn't like people complaining about him. Go figure. And you call me mindless?

You have a legit complaint? No one here has a problem with that, in fact I would encourage constructive criticism. No one has a problem with that.

You want to flame the developers and include smite and threats? I say grow up and remember your place in the grand scheme of things.

And yet... here you are. Interesting.

You sound like the guy that cheats on his girlfriend because he thinks she cheated on him so it's her fault he cheated...

This thread has gone off-topic, turned into a complaint thread, and is flaming now. Closed.