Standing in Granite Citadel at this very moment watching a non-stop parade of mo/w20 bots spawning. Using the Tasca's Demise sign as a focus point of the script they run then a slight movement to the right and out the door.
My boggle is why does it seem so easy for us casual gamers to notice this sort of thing which is against all the game rules and for the people who run it to seem so oblivious.
When Granite Citadel has been a focus of so many threads in relation to this topic for the life of me I just don't get it. I would think that places of well known bot farming would be high on the list of game monitors favourite haunts. But then again.. Are there game monitors ?
Totally boggled !
Bots.. Why is it so ?
Nanood
iMike
SPOILERS I'm about to say something that may be looked down on by so called "real gamers"
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I like how in Runescape they have things that pop up and require you to do something so that the makers of the game know you are actually there, if you don't respond, they will assume your not there and may issue consequences if it happens repeatedly. I know alot of people might say that many towns are overcrowded and that this would make it worse, but it may sign off people that are afk who are overcrowding the area anyway. Just a thought. Don't troll me please, it's my first post. =P
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I like how in Runescape they have things that pop up and require you to do something so that the makers of the game know you are actually there, if you don't respond, they will assume your not there and may issue consequences if it happens repeatedly. I know alot of people might say that many towns are overcrowded and that this would make it worse, but it may sign off people that are afk who are overcrowding the area anyway. Just a thought. Don't troll me please, it's my first post. =P
Sparks Dawnbringer
Yes, have you tried looking at them going to farm the undead in Nebo Terrace. I think all they did with the hard mode is give bots somewhere to go and ruined the few places it was possible to farm in person. I thought I was in Droks again. It is a constant line of monks out the door. I am a monk and it made me sick,. I cannot bellieve this is what they had planned for hard mode to be. All you need to do is stand there and record the names. Why is it so hard for them to figure this out? I think they really don't care. ,
Chop it Off
nothing will be done about botters.
anet may say they're banning them, but they OBVIOUSLY aren't.
the number of botters seem to be growing on a hourly basis.
anet may say they're banning them, but they OBVIOUSLY aren't.
the number of botters seem to be growing on a hourly basis.
Perynne
Nanood, there are tons of threads about the bots in Grainte Citadel already. Please look around the forums before making a new thread on a subject that pops up tons of times in a week.
Chop it Off, I'm sure Anet is doing something about the bots. If they weren't, I think this game would have been overrun with bots already to the point that every single outpost would have several districts dedicated to just bots. Banning a bot is not as easy as you may think.... the person behind the bots could be running tons of bots at once, and when one gets banned he can just create another. Getting one bot banned is not going to make the guy crawl up in a corner and break into tears of shame.
Also, Anet has a system where they don't ban a character immediately as soon as they get a name, but instead they check the background of the character to see if that person has exhibited bot-like behaviour. Sometimes innocent players who farm too much get banned, but from what I hear, most of the time the system works. I wouldn't want to play a game where the admins can ban you just as soon as look at you, without checking to see if you did something wrong or not.
The bots might look clear as day to you or me, but believe it or not, some of those bots may have been actual players who are just farming like robots.
Chop it Off, I'm sure Anet is doing something about the bots. If they weren't, I think this game would have been overrun with bots already to the point that every single outpost would have several districts dedicated to just bots. Banning a bot is not as easy as you may think.... the person behind the bots could be running tons of bots at once, and when one gets banned he can just create another. Getting one bot banned is not going to make the guy crawl up in a corner and break into tears of shame.
Also, Anet has a system where they don't ban a character immediately as soon as they get a name, but instead they check the background of the character to see if that person has exhibited bot-like behaviour. Sometimes innocent players who farm too much get banned, but from what I hear, most of the time the system works. I wouldn't want to play a game where the admins can ban you just as soon as look at you, without checking to see if you did something wrong or not.
The bots might look clear as day to you or me, but believe it or not, some of those bots may have been actual players who are just farming like robots.
Div
The total number of botters are growing on a daily basis, sure, but it'd be growing much faster if anet didn't ban anything. Just be glad you only see ~30 bots in granite citadel at any given time instead of 3000 
ogre-mage
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Standing in Granite Citadel at this very moment watching a non-stop parade of mo/w20 bots spawning. Using the Tasca's Demise sign as a focus point of the script they run then a slight movement to the right and out the door.
My boggle is why does it seem so easy for us casual gamers to notice this sort of thing which is against all the game rules and for the people who run it to seem so oblivious. When Granite Citadel has been a focus of so many threads in relation to this topic for the life of me I just don't get it. I would think that places of well known bot farming would be high on the list of game monitors favourite haunts. But then again.. Are there game monitors ? Totally boggled ! |
funny, no?
Roshi_ikkyu
Woot yet another Bot farmer thread! Wheee!
I should go start a thread about loot scaling!
I should go start a thread about loot scaling!
Clord
Answer: Because of human nature.
Etta
You asked, "Why is there a gold farmer bot in GW?", you should also ask, "Why is there a gold buyer in GW?".
freekedoutfish
This is just another reason I think we should make access to HM unqiue to the character.
The system at the minute allows for bots in hard mode, because once you get HM on one character on your account, you can access HM on that same account with any lvl20 you own.
This lets players create lvl20 bots and simple make them farm HM.
If we made access unique they couldnt do it, or theyd be less likely.
I doubt most people would take the time to play a bot all through a campaign, just to make it farm.
The system at the minute allows for bots in hard mode, because once you get HM on one character on your account, you can access HM on that same account with any lvl20 you own.
This lets players create lvl20 bots and simple make them farm HM.
If we made access unique they couldnt do it, or theyd be less likely.
I doubt most people would take the time to play a bot all through a campaign, just to make it farm.
RTSFirebat
A.net do ban botters, but there is an endless number of new bot accounts being created daily. So they aren't going away.
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A.net do ban botters, but there is an endless number of new bot accounts being created daily. So they aren't going away.
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The ones where you get a random pictures showing letters and numbers. They usually have random shapes and colours in too, to mix the letters up. You then have to copy it into the empty field box!
The idea being that a programme cant read the picture and copy the text.
Wouldnt that stop automatic programmes churning out bots?
SotiCoto
I've had Gaile Grey personally reply to one of my posts complaining about their lack of activity to counter that they ban around 2000 bot accounts a week.
Problem is, as I said before.... it is like trying to kill off a hoarde of locusts with a candle. Removing 2000 a week isn't helping much if they're adding 10000.
Problem is, as I said before.... it is like trying to kill off a hoarde of locusts with a candle. Removing 2000 a week isn't helping much if they're adding 10000.
clanceh
More bots is directly related to loot scaling. Anet reduced the drops for all, those who run bots need to make more bots to continue their business and Anet sales more copys of GW. That is how Anet has devised a way to sale more copys of GWs. It's all about profit. They don't make profit from us who have already bought the games. It's all about company profit and you are a fool if you think it's not all part of their plan.
SotiCoto
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More bots is directly related to loot scaling. Anet reduced the drops for all, those who run bots need to make more bots to continue their business and Anet sales more copys of GW. That is how Anet has devised a way to sale more copys of GWs. It's all about profit. They don't make profit from us who have already bought the games. It's all about company profit and you are a fool if you think it's not all part of their plan.
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And I suppose that the advertising of gold and the like by the bot-farmers elsewhere on the web also acts inadvertantly as advertising for Guild Wars itself.
Hard Mode too.... It is, in fact, easier to farm for better loot than Normal Mode ever was.... IF you happen to be a 55er... which all of the bots typically are.
Sneaky... ^_^
Alas Poor Yorick
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More bots is directly related to loot scaling. Anet reduced the drops for all, those who run bots need to make more bots to continue their business and Anet sales more copys of GW. That is how Anet has devised a way to sale more copys of GWs. It's all about profit. They don't make profit from us who have already bought the games. It's all about company profit and you are a fool if you think it's not all part of their plan.
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It is getting to the point we might as well call this game Bot Wars since it seems to be a constant grind of ANet trying to counter botters by changing the game and most players spending their time having to adjust to ANets changes instead of just enjoying the game.
Betty Botter used Boon/Proter
“Bah,” she said “Boon/Prot’s a rotter
If I run old Boon/Protter
my botting will be bitter”
“So I’ll build a Bergen botter
He’ll be a dead bow getter.”
So she made a Bergen botter
And her botting’s ne’er been better.
Betty Botter,
What a rotter!
clanceh
Not a conspiracy theory....a fact. Anet has devised a way to sell more copies of Gw (to the botters) by reducing drops for all of us. I've been playing this game for two years and my drops are pitiful now, normal mode AND hard mode. Thanks Anet. It's been nice. I do understand you need to keep selling copies of GW, I just wish you could do it without reducing my enjoyment of the game(s) I bought.
SotiCoto
Quit yer fretting...
The extra bots don't actually seem to do much to harm the rest of us.
They haven't killed the economy just yet.
I mean sure... with more gold in the system and more people buying their gold, they can afford to pay more for certain items and drive the price up...
... But then some items remain at stable prices (i.e. armour) while others can now be farmed extensively by just about anyone.... so I can't imagine it will make too much of a difference.
The extra bots don't actually seem to do much to harm the rest of us.
They haven't killed the economy just yet.
I mean sure... with more gold in the system and more people buying their gold, they can afford to pay more for certain items and drive the price up...
... But then some items remain at stable prices (i.e. armour) while others can now be farmed extensively by just about anyone.... so I can't imagine it will make too much of a difference.
Bryant Again
The more botters they ban, the more copies of Guild Wars are bought to replace the banned accounts. More money for ANet. DON'T YOU SEE!? They NEED botters!!! /tinfoilhat
Coridan
^^ nah most bots etc use the 14 day trial keys or buddy keys then float the money to the "legally" purchased account and then the start a new 14 day key with a new name etc
Bryant Again
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^^ nah most bots etc use the 14 day trial keys or buddy keys then float the money to the "legally" purchased account and then the start a new 14 day key with a new name etc
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Chop it Off
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Do you mean trial accounts are trading thier money and goods to legally purchased accounts? Because to my knowledge trading was disabled for trial accounts. What do you mean, exactly?
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but going outside a town and dropping stuff on the ground, isnt.
Krispy
Good god...yet another bot thread. Anet needs a bot to close the bot threads...
onerabbit
Well, why dont we do something about bots? ..
put them out of buisnes (fok knows how 2 spell it =])
Dont buy gold of them, dont buy unid golds in game of them and stuff.
soon they will go? no?
put them out of buisnes (fok knows how 2 spell it =])
Dont buy gold of them, dont buy unid golds in game of them and stuff.
soon they will go? no?
JeniM
Bryant Again
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Directly trading is, to the best of my knowledge.
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xshadowwolfx
Umm, won't they run out of trial keys? =D
Synles Chyld
sry guys to spoil ur "trial key bots" fun but no a trial key can't trade with any one else or they cant drop items on the ground for others to get they can only sale to merch or destroy by way of the trash can icon in inventory but no trades or drops so out goes that theory if u odnt believe it just activate one of ur own trial keys u got when u bought the game u'll see
icymanipulator
When I was completing the legendary skill hunter this weekend I had to do runs to Mineral Springs at least a half dozen times. Every time I was in there I went ahead and did an IDS run just for the heck of it. Its not my first time in there, I also have legendary cartographer. Not once ever in the entire time running the area top to bottom have I once dropped an IDS in the northeastern cave, even with 2 chests in there. This is throughout the history of my time playing GW, nearly a year and repeated attempts.
In combination with the insane amount of bots gathered in the Citadel this leads me to believe there is indeed a new farming code in place of sorts. I could never prove it, but it seems like with all the bots in MS the drops are literally crap in the neighboring zones. By comparison I did an early morning Sorrow's Furnace run top to bottom just this morning and dropped 5 golds from enemies and chests AND a Superior Vigor. I have to figure it was early enough for very few if anyone else to be in SF. I'd like to see some more takes on this.
In combination with the insane amount of bots gathered in the Citadel this leads me to believe there is indeed a new farming code in place of sorts. I could never prove it, but it seems like with all the bots in MS the drops are literally crap in the neighboring zones. By comparison I did an early morning Sorrow's Furnace run top to bottom just this morning and dropped 5 golds from enemies and chests AND a Superior Vigor. I have to figure it was early enough for very few if anyone else to be in SF. I'd like to see some more takes on this.
unienaule
If these threads weren't made every single day and full of untrue "facts" maybe they would last a bit longer. Closed.