Please make the bonus weapon so they can be moddable again - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

tanleeseng

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Tarr Babies

R/

08 May 2007 at 21:12 - 1

I am posting this new thread in regard to the last response by the moderator in the following thread at the forum :

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10125835

Below are a few points in regards to what is this thread about :

The "bonus weapon not upgradable anymore" issue has been going on since the launch of Nightfall in 2006. There are no proper announcement about this update. There are many thread in various forum addressing the similar issue.
From what I have gathered this is done to prevent people from salvaging unlimited mods from the Factions pre-launch/Europe CE weapons since you can regenerate the weapon multiple times by using the "/bonusitems" command. This caused a side effect making all bonus weapons unmoddable.
Bonus weapons that came with GW:Prophecies GOTY Edition are affected the most since they do not come with a suffix mod initially and now you can't even put one in making them inferior compared to in game weapons.
A Lot of people had pointed out that since these weapons came customised to the player we should be allow privilege to upgrade them since we cannot sell or trade them.
Weapons from collectors previously behave in such a way that you are able to put mods on it but not extract them (this has changed since the update and mods are now salvagable from collectors weapon). Why can't the same method be apply to the bonus weapons instead of totally locking the moddability ?
This wouldn't have been an issue if bonus weapons are free items that you get from quests but since NCSoft started selling the GOTY upgrade at the online shop + we did buy the Factions/Nightfall bonus weapons using "real money" this has become an issue that needs attention.
Bonus weapons that are affected are as follow :

Guild Wars : Prophecies GOTY Edition
Tiger's Roar (Elementalist Focus Item)
Poisonous Nevermore Flatbow (Ranger Bow)
Sundering Rhino's Charge (Warrior Hammer)
Serrated Shield (Warrior Shield)
Wolf's Favor (Monk Focus Item)
Luminescent Scepter (Mesmer Wand)
Insightful Soul Shrieker (Necromancer Staff)

Guild Wars : Faction Pre-Order pack
Poisonous Dragon Fangs of Dagger Mastery (Assassin Dagger)
Insightful Spiritbinder (Ritualist Staff)

Guild Wars : Nightfall Pre-release pack
Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting (Dervish Scythe)
Fiery Sunspear of Shelter (Paragon Spear)

Please make no mistake that this is not a demand but a plea so that the developer will take notice upon this issue and take the appropriate action. Even if they decided not to make bonus weapons moddable again at least have the decency to make a proper announcement and please add suffix mod to the GOTY Bonus Weapons so they don't feel inferior.

Thank You.

Tan Lee Seng

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

08 May 2007 at 22:56 - 2

/signed

Thank you for summarizing it so nicely and for being civil. Much too many people demand things from ArenaNet these days too.

Echuu Ishtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sacred Forge Knights (SFK)

09 May 2007 at 01:55 - 3

/signed

If we can't salvage them, at least let us add or overwrite existing ones.

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

09 May 2007 at 02:35 - 4

/signed
I don't have one of these, but they seem.... lame... Well as I saw them on Guild Wiki.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

09 May 2007 at 10:50 - 5

At least if there are empty slots, they showuld allow mods in the empty slots, like with the Sundering Rhino's Charge.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

09 May 2007 at 11:33 - 6

I stil have my furious Rhino's charge with the +30 fortitude mod that i upgraded before the change... Its a damn fine hammer

/signed, these are awesome hero weapons and this is a brilliantly written request

Hell, two more things maybe? add the skins to the pvp weapon creation screen and maybe add an Axe and a Sword with GW:EN?

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

09 May 2007 at 11:41 - 7

Signed.

I said this before and I'll say it again, that Nevermore bow is just begging for a better mod on it.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

09 May 2007 at 13:44 - 8

As you stated, if they simply let you add a mod to a bonus weapon, but didnt let you extract one, then the problem is solved.

The existing mod is destroyed, but you get to put a better one on. And because you cant extract a mod, you dont get people having an endless supply of extracted mods to sell.

But what if you put a great, perfect mod onto a bonus weapon, but couldnt extract it afterwards?

Its kind of a one-off-deal, and you loose your mod if you later dont like the change or you make a mistake. But if people are willing to take that risk, I dont see why they dont let you mod them, with extraction limitations.

/signed aslong as its restricted on abuse.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

09 May 2007 at 23:31 - 9

You can add modifiers to collector weapons, but you can't remove the fixed properties they come with.

This could be exactly the same.

Althout it would be even better if the y had set some kind of flag to th weapon, so you could remove the mods you add, but not the ones the weapon comes with... so you could recover the mods you had to find or buy if you don't need the weapon anymore.

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

09 May 2007 at 23:39 - 10

/signed

want... to... beat... people... in... face.... with.... RHINO!!!!!

also i suggest that these skins be unlocked in pvp item creation window if you own GOTY or preoreders.... for same reason as above ^^

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

10 May 2007 at 01:21 - 11

/signed to non-salvageable default bonus item mods, to being able to overwrite these mods and to being unable to salvage them afterwards (to avert abuse).

The bonus items I use most often are the Nightfall ones as I don't have much by way of spears and scythes. The Prophecies bonus items now see little action because I can't mod them, especially the Rhino's Charge and the Nevermore Flatbow

dark_prince2023

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

10 May 2007 at 07:54 - 12

/signed as it will help me out alot since I paid for the extra stuff before I found out they weren't modable anymor and thats also the whole reason I got the pre-order.

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

10 May 2007 at 07:58 - 13

/signed

Agree the mods from bonus weapons should not be salvageable, BUT ther eis not reason at all we should not be able to apply upgrade that we attain to them. True this means that latter we would not be able to salvage the upgrade we put on that bonus weapon back off again, but thats OK... the same is true of our hero armor is it not? We should be able to apply at the very least our Prefix suffix mods that we were able to do BEFORE nightfall release. Thankfully I still have my original Vampiric Ithicas bow of Fortitude from way back at faction on one of my ranger heroes. But now that particular bow can not be remade Ever, so it is ultra rare I suppose. However its not fair to people that have these bonus wepons not to use them as they want too. Most of them are not all that great anyway, just some amped up starter weapons for most of us. However, I do agree with the Dev that allowing unlimited salvages off bonus weapons would be a problem.

If its a logistical thing Its understandable, however we have seen that other types of weapons and items can be modded but not salvaged from, so there is not reason these should not be that way too.

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

10 May 2007 at 13:14 - 14

/signed

never got to mod mine

Unconventional Man

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Way of The Knifade

E/W

10 May 2007 at 18:20 - 15

/signed

love the look of that tactics shield

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

10 May 2007 at 18:31 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

we have seen that other types of weapons and items can be modded but not salvaged from, so there is not reason these should not be that way too.

yup fiery dragon sword, icy dragon sword, lol

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

10 May 2007 at 21:37 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi_strife

yup fiery dragon sword, icy dragon sword, lol

And [wiki]Icy Blade Axe[/wiki], [wiki]Fiery Blade Axe[/wiki]

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

10 May 2007 at 22:20 - 18

yup lol so i dont see why this could not be done, also [wiki]fiery gladius[/wiki]

tanleeseng

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Tarr Babies

R/

13 May 2007 at 08:29 - 19

Thank you all for the support. Hoping to see more support for this and hoping even more that the developers will take notice.

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

31 May 2007 at 12:22 - 20

I hope this is something they're working on. It took them a while to change the old armours to being inscribeable. I hope this is just a similar delay with the bonus items.

It doesn't seem fair that one pays for the items that end up being worthless.

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

31 May 2007 at 12:58 - 21

would love to be able to alter some of the weapons, as some are totally lame, and i bought these fromt he shop

Also half the weapons i'm putting on heroes are realy really awful, but not as aful as the lame mods of the bonus items. would be nice ot have the option to change them

/signed

Raziel Mert

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

A/W

01 Jun 2007 at 12:43 - 22

/signed

They should be moddable for many reason , or else its just a waste of real money

Lexxor

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Majestic Dragons [MaD]

Mo/N

01 Jun 2007 at 17:13 - 23

/signed.
12 characters.

Divine Freak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Land Of Liquid Sunshine

Guilded Rose [Rose]

Mo/

01 Jun 2007 at 19:31 - 24

It would be nice if they were made like the collector weapons used to be. You could put mods on them, but could not remove them once you put them on.

/signed

Raziel Mert

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

A/W

19 Jun 2007 at 11:23 - 25

does this thread gets attention ?

pls comment Gaile Gray what your opinion is

bryann380

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/

19 Jun 2007 at 23:46 - 26

/signed

But only if the mods we actually add ourselves can be salvaged. The mods that the items start with can't be removed.

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 Jun 2007 at 00:14 - 27

I miss being able to mod my spiritbinder, that was awesome.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

20 Jun 2007 at 02:08 - 28

hhm.
/signed. I like the skins and they come customized anyway, so it'd have zero impact on the economy.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

20 Jun 2007 at 13:13 - 29

Yup, by making their mods replaceable, but not salvageable, that should be enough.

malignant-heretic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

UK

UH - UNHOLY

N/

08 Jul 2007 at 14:15 - 30

/signed, dont think anything more need be said except i agree on the fact that the weapons should just be unsalvagable. like when you click: salvage kit, then hover over the weapon you get the hammer with a red circle over it like if you hover it over a dye. but make the mods replaceable.

Id love to have a set of 4 nevermore bows in my arsenal with different mods on them.

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

08 Jul 2007 at 14:33 - 31

I like the idea of modding my dragon fangs. But then again, they are free weapons for every character. FREE. I will not say i wouldnt like it, but i think they already are what they were supposed to be, free weapons

/signed anyways

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

08 Jul 2007 at 14:43 - 32

/signed doesn't make sence whitout.

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

08 Jul 2007 at 15:21 - 33

/Signed

Some of GOTY skins are spiffo, please let me mod them!

MudBone

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Citadel of Immortals

R/Mo

08 Jul 2007 at 16:33 - 34

/signed on the grounds that they allow a MOD CHANGE and not allow ability to be salvaged.

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

08 Jul 2007 at 18:49 - 35

/signed

I want my bonus items top shape for having payed for them.

MudBone

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Citadel of Immortals

R/Mo

09 Jul 2007 at 03:29 - 36

Upon thinking about this i'm going to withdraw my signed for stament and say the reason is (as

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keneth

I want my bonus items top shape for having payed for them.

said)
I payed for them, so, they SHOULD BE maxxed golds that cant be altered or sold.

Kinn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Englandshire, England.

The International Association of Mending Wammos

R/

09 Jul 2007 at 23:48 - 37

/signed

I hate having 7 useless weapons cluttering the inventory of my characters.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

10 Jul 2007 at 00:25 - 38

/signed, other people have put it better than I could, but I'm sad that my special GOTY items are no longer all that special. Since they can't be sold or salvaged, can't we at least make them impressive for ourselves?

storm of daeth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

somewhere

Zealots Of Abaddon [ZOA]

W/

10 Jul 2007 at 00:44 - 39

/signed

I never got the chance to mod mine and I really want to use rhino's charge.

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

10 Jul 2007 at 08:10 - 40

This change would get me to buy the GOTY weapons upgrade for sure. I already have several bonus weapons from preorder and up until nightfall they were modable and luckily I kept them. However it would be nice to know I can make a little more room in inventory on occasion if I had too by being able to dump the original weapons to respawn them later if needed. At this point I just consider them handy little starter weapons for a new character... but other then that they are not that big a deal to me.

However it would be nice to get its original functionality back. so
/signed.