need graven monolith farming build

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

hi

in the elemental sword farming build, none saw one dropping
but some ppl seid:

"my friend got one from a graven monolith whit hench!"

so im trying to find a graven monolith farming build

facts about monoliths:

chause -11 degen(bleeding+canure+cripeling aungish)
chase constant blinding(EDA)
there only ench removal is an atack and needs a hex to function(rending sweep)
they black out ur elite for like 30 secons (signet of humelty)

i certaily have:
elementalist
ritualist
assasin(almost there)
paragon(in vabbi but survivor..)

annyone got ideas?

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

I would say an e/d or mo/d would work spendidly, but I don't think you realize how good rending sweep is.

headcarb

headcarb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England/Shing jea

Rt/

d/mo think will work

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

i dont have a dervish, i do not have a monk, and e/d willl get raped by ench removal and no energy magnement...

also, the are im trying to farm has 20+ gravens and is accesable via wurm

El Sabio

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

mo/d doesnt work, i tried it with the monolith quest in the remainings, sure ur monk doesnt die, but the monoliths wont too, because of their ability to shift into a paragon they are healing to fast.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

Gonna go ahead and double post, but e/d works great.

here's my bar: kinetic armor/armor of earth/stoneflesh aura/sliver armor/stone daggers/ether renewal/mystic regeneration/earth attunement.

Kinda slow, but they give you windows of opportunity to get ether renewal up. I tested this at the graven monolith temple where like, 15 of them show up, and after clearing 3 at a time, I eventually tanked most of the room.

attributes were 15 earth/12 e storage/8 earth prayers.

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

yep

my guess will be a/x whit shadow form and a quick combo, and then tele out(unspecticous>wild>dead blossom pwns them)

i guess ele just doest work, since your elite is blacked out, same fate goes for rit, and paragons cant stay alive either

btw, that are is not accesable via wurm and its near a res schine(nuke and die...=] )

but i gotta go to school now

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

I actually always have time to get ether renewal up.

there's a small window of time before they humility it, so you have to hit it then. Rending sweep actually hasn't been that problematic, since they shift into the dervish form last, and by that time they've probably exploded from sliver armor.

however, I'm almost 100% sure they don't drop from monoliths, and is just one of those filthy rumours flying around.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Junundu?
Guess that will be the easiest when you team up with another human player

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

check wiki talk page for elemntal sword, 2 ppl there say they got one from a graven monolith

Neonate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Austria

Eternal Edge [noID]

Mo/

My 2 cents: I killed around 6000 graven monoliths on hardmode (a show of force quest), golds did drop a lot, mostly ancient daggers/scythes, tons of bows, tons of aureate aegis, few rare skins like desolation maul etc, not a single elemental sword.

So before you go on trying to farm them, rethink it twice...

Anyway, is there any chance you could tell us where your friend found it ? Maybe he got it in the realm of torment ?

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

just saw this

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=48

rethink twice before NOT gain to farm there...

Neonate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Austria

Eternal Edge [noID]

Mo/

To me it looks like elemental swords can be dropped by almost anything starting with shambling mesas up to graven monoliths and djinns. It's just such a rare drop that i would not consider farming it. A matter of luck you might say, that's why you should spend time on other types of farming, and just buy one. Seems the most logical solution. That is if you want to have one. If you just need money, there are tons of other things you might do, with more success.

Me I'm gonna do chest runs in poisoned outcrops for a while, then I'll go back to DoA farming... (meh i only want a nice caster sword =P)

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

im pretty sure doa dont drops em

in the trhead i made a week ago, around 10 ppl ran 1000 chests total, no elem sword

Neonate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Austria

Eternal Edge [noID]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by meat shield
im pretty sure doa dont drops em

in the trhead i made a week ago, around 10 ppl ran 1000 chests total, no elem sword Well I hate to repeat myself, but I killed around 6000 (+/- 300) graven monoliths on hardmode - no luck either... You can't just say monoliths farming is a way to get an elem sword because someone got one from them, just as you can't say you will get one from chest farming because someone got it from a chest. I think ANet made at least this one NOT farmable, which i appreciate (remember dead swords ? =P or take a look at the colossal scimitars) It's like farming aatxes for rubies, the chance to get one is terribly low. I like it, even if I don't have one yet. I will do chestrunning anyway, worth a try (200 chests at most).

PS: Don't let yourself be fooled by the crap on wiki. Wiki is made by people like you and me, only devs know for sure where to get an elemental sword.

PPS: it takes one at least 7-8 minutes (if you're good) just to GET to the monolith temple (+ the time you need to kill them, heavily depending on your build/tactics), with a little math you might realise, it's not worth it at all....


EDIT: I meant DoA titan gem farming, I never claimed that e-swords drop there =) And I will do CR in poisoned outcrops...

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neonate
Well I hate to repeat myself, but I killed around 6000 (+/- 300) graven monoliths on hardmode - no luck either... You can't just say monoliths farming is a way to get an elem sword because someone got one from them, just as you can't say you will get one from chest farming because someone got it from a chest. I think ANet made at least this one NOT farmable, which i appreciate (remember dead swords ? =P or take a look at the colossal scimitars) It's like farming aatxes for rubies, the chance to get one is terribly low. I like it, even if I don't have one yet. I will do chestrunning anyway, worth a try (200 chests at most).

PS: Don't let yourself be fooled by the crap on wiki. Wiki is made by people like you and me, only devs know for sure where to get an elemental sword.

PPS: it takes one at least 7-8 minutes (if you're good) just to GET to the monolith temple (+ the time you need to kill them, heavily depending on your build/tactics), with a little math you might realise, it's not worth it at all....


EDIT: I meant DoA titan gem farming, I never claimed that e-swords drop there =) And I will do CR in poisoned outcrops... I'm going to assume you did this during the LB/Sunspear weekend...therefore I'm pretty sure you did this with full heros/hench. So 1/8th of your drops just went down the toilet. These are rare drops so I would not be surprised if you didn't get one by killing 750 monliths (1/8th of 6000).

Now if you did this with 8/8 real people and killed 6000 of them then I'd be more inclined to believe that Gravens don't drop elemental swords.

Neonate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Austria

Eternal Edge [noID]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi Garett
I'm going to assume you did this during the LB/Sunspear weekend...therefore I'm pretty sure you did this with full heros/hench. So 1/8th of your drops just went down the toilet. These are rare drops so I would not be surprised if you didn't get one by killing 750 monliths (1/8th of 6000).

Now if you did this with 8/8 real people and killed 6000 of them then I'd be more inclined to believe that Gravens don't drop elemental swords.
1. Nope, I did it during last 1 1/2 weeks
2. Nope, I didn't do it with full hench team (i did most of it with my guildies, and some of it with 4-5 henchmen/heroes to max drops). Either I'm cursed or the sword is totally underpriced...

EDIT: And I'm not saying they don't drop them, tbh I believe that many monsters are theoretically able to drop ele swords, but the drop rate is so miserably low, that it has little sense trying to farm it (better be off doing one of the other xxx types of farming)

Julia-Louis Dreyfus

Julia-Louis Dreyfus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

farming for these swords has become a big waste of time. 1000's of chests, 1000's of crags and mesas. and now 1000 of these things? think its not worth the time to farm one, but hey, i think i earned enough money to buy one from all those cheap monsters

Neonate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Austria

Eternal Edge [noID]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Julia-Louis Dreyfus
farming for these swords has become a big waste of time. 1000's of chests, 1000's of crags and mesas. and now 1000 of these things? think its not worth the time to farm one That's what I've been saying all along, it's not worth the effort

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Some Asian fortune cookie read this text:

Not too long ago, there was an experienced adventurer that tried to solo-kill some Assasin boss over and over and over, just for his Unique Daggers. No matter how much the little adventurer killed the boss, the daggers never dropped for him.

'Oh why, oh why' cried the adventurer to his gods, 'Please help me get these daggers!'

The gods never answered his calls, so he decided to give up the farming. A litte later, he decided to farm Strongroot Shelters some more, since they dropped about every 15 mins. After he loaded his bags with Strongroots, he set off to Keineng Center.

In Keineng Center, he sold his Strongroots quickly for hard cash. But he noticed some merchant selling the Unique Daggers, he longed for so much. He asked the merchant to trade them for one of his Strongroots. The merchant happily recieved the Unique Shield and decided to pay an extra 5k for it as well.

The adventurer set off to where the sun goes down, with his new Unique Daggers and a pouch full of platinum.

Theres a lesson to be learned in this story.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

on the other hand, Smite Hex does cause big damage.....

Suxipo

Suxipo

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Here is how I farm these monoliths. I use E/A FOW Solo build someone posted here and bring heroes + hench to fight all the way to the temple. Flag them away and just use the FOW solo tactic to kill monoliths slowly. Its slow but very easy. Drops have been not very good but you are guaranteed to get the Sword if it ever drops.

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

good idea
5 graven monoliths are just outside the bone paleace, i kill them in like 40 secs. walking in town and loading takes 20 secs

making 300 monoliths poer hour

i say you get a sword every 10 hours then(3000 monoliths)... =]
urgh

no damage tank

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Inside Your Head [Psy]

W/

hmm.... well, the problem is that they cause 11 degen, so enchantments are the way to go, but they also strip enchantments... maybe a shadow form fire nuker? so no spells or attacks get through

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

the shadow form nuker works in NM

but is alot harder in HM

tidussoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Desolation

The Sulfurous Wastes
Ancient Elonian Chest
The Shattered Ravines
Locked Chest in Hard Mode
The Sulfurous Wastes
Graven Monoliths during A Show of Force in Hard Mode.
Poisoned Outcrops
Ancient Elonian Chest
Locked Chest in Hard Mode
Realm of Torment

Domain of Secrets
Locked Chest in Hard Mode
Hall of Heroes

Chest


from guildwiki here is a link if u dont believe http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elemental_Sword

Uriah Heep

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tidussoul
Graven Monoliths during A Show of Force in Hard Mode. Only during the quest?

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uriah Heep
Only during the quest?
The Monoliths are there if you done have the quest, but if you do have the quest it spawns alot more monliths .. along with a few marganites =]

Kowlier

Kowlier

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

belgium

the bretheren of chaos [Dark]

W/

would the monoliths work with a vwk warrior? my mage is stuck in dzagonur bastion

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Sir Domairman

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Wizards of the Gold Order

R/Mo

Uh oh... Not to complain or anything but.... that reminds me something. :P

tidussoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

they only drop in the quest !!!!!

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

from a chest....

Suxipo

Suxipo

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
Are you the one who was complaining someone not revealing his Colossal Scimitar farm spot? What's the problem with showing what dropped that sword? Anyway, congrats :P

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
graz dude, u lucky bas*rd, ah well im goign to have to start here now, really need to get my warrior up here . was it a chest drop? or a monster?. i take it ur useing the E/A shoadowform metorshower uber h4x0r build from what i see, or is that a necro?, cookie cutter builds FTW :P

Acehigh

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

I think i can surmise from that pic that she got it from the chest in that pic,although it doesnt mean it couldnt be from that chest either.You should have gotten a better screenshot of it showing what dropped it.

EDIT:Looking closer at that pic,looks like the chest was near the Sandstorm boss and you were chest running with either an assassin or war.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i think that shot is old, i remeber ShadowsRequiem saying he got one from a chest in poisoned outcrops near the SS ele boss a while ago


oh and its a warrior .. Kurzick legging and 15k glads top? female

W/A Shadow form chest runner =]

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acehigh
I think i can surmise from that pic that she got it from the chest in that pic,although it doesnt mean it couldnt be from that chest either.You should have gotten a better screenshot of it showing what dropped it.

EDIT:Looking closer at that pic,looks like the chest was near the Sandstorm boss and you were chest running with either an assassin or war. Actually you're 100% right lol

I put it in this thread as a tease i'm cruel I know!

I got it about hmmm 6 months ago in the posioned outcrops, the Sandstorm Stone Shard boss was sitting directly on top of the chest.

If you look closely you can actually see me lying there undernearth the Stone Shard crag lol (upper right hand corner)

EDIT:Oh and stuff is blackened out because they are pm's and swearing, little surprised

SolusX

SolusX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/

I've been farming the monolith temple with show of force active for 4-5 runs, pretty poor drops though. For killing over 300 monoliths, bestI got was +30 for axe and Black dye. Maybe around 5-10 gods total, in Hardmode. The drops are very poor for this area IMO.