The campaign will be set in Tyria two hundred and fifty years into the future from the original campaign.
What will happend between this time, ok our chars will be dead and burried, but what will tyria be like. will we have same towns and out posts? i hope not because that will mean the gw world we know now will stay the same, but only with other enemies.
what happends between Eye of the North and GW2
squan
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Hold on while I find my Crystal Ball...
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The campaign will be set in Tyria two hundred and fifty years into the future from the original campaign.
What will happend between this time, ok our chars will be dead and burried, but what will tyria be like. will we have same towns and out posts? i hope not because that will mean the gw world we know now will stay the same, but only with other enemies. |
Also, go back 250 years and see if the town you live in is the same.
Sophitia Leafblade
Well considering we dont know what happens in Eye of the North yet its Extremely hard to say, if not near impossible. Wait 6 months when Eye of the North is out and ask again
squan
I know its just speculation, but still interesting
I am thinking something like this
Balthazar, Dwayna, Grenth, lyssa and melandru will have a big war vs Abaddon, Dhuum, Menzies and Great Destroyer. Our chars will fight in this war and the bad guys win and we die and the gods of tyria are doomed in some other dimension, or something that looks like what happened with abaddon or shiro.
But b4 that happened the gods gave the Heroes of Ascalon who also fight in this war special powers, or make them some kind of gods.
For the people who not know who the heroes of ascalon are:
The Heroes of Ascalon is a group of adventurers who are the main characters of the Lore of Guildwars (in both the website and the game manual). The name Heroes of Ascalon is not ascribed by ArenaNet nor is it used in-game, it is a label formed by the wiki to refer to them. They are:
• Devona the Warrior,
• Cynn the Elementalist,
• Aidan the Ranger,
• Mhenlo the Monk,
• Eve the Necromancer.
Some info about the gods of tyria
The Gods of Tyria are the five gods who in the theology of humans and other advanced races created the world of Tyria. They are:
• Balthazar: God of war and fire
• Dwayna: Goddess of life and air
• Grenth: God of death and ice, defeated Dhuum to obtain this position
• Lyssa: Twin goddess of beauty and illusion.
• Melandru: Goddess of nature and earth
They are also known as the "Old Gods" as they left the world of Tyria about a thousand years ago.
The History of the Old Gods in Tyria
According to legend, the Old Gods lived on Tyria while creating it. They made their homes in the city of Arah in the area known as Orr. It is implied that Dhuum was God of Death at this time, but was overthrown by Grenth sometime later.
In the year 1 BE, the Old Gods represented by Abaddon gifted all sentient races with the gift of magic, but it was abused as each race tried to use this gift to destroy the other. After a plea from King Doric, the Gods sealed away the power to control all of magic in the Bloodstones and shortly after Abaddon attempted to usurp control of Tyria from the other gods. After his defeat they left Tyria for good and went into the Rift in an event known as the Exodus of the Gods.
If you wanna know more about the gods, check wiki, its very interesting
but 5 gods, 5 heroes of ascalon? could i be right?
I know speculation
I am thinking something like this
Balthazar, Dwayna, Grenth, lyssa and melandru will have a big war vs Abaddon, Dhuum, Menzies and Great Destroyer. Our chars will fight in this war and the bad guys win and we die and the gods of tyria are doomed in some other dimension, or something that looks like what happened with abaddon or shiro.
But b4 that happened the gods gave the Heroes of Ascalon who also fight in this war special powers, or make them some kind of gods.
For the people who not know who the heroes of ascalon are:
The Heroes of Ascalon is a group of adventurers who are the main characters of the Lore of Guildwars (in both the website and the game manual). The name Heroes of Ascalon is not ascribed by ArenaNet nor is it used in-game, it is a label formed by the wiki to refer to them. They are:
• Devona the Warrior,
• Cynn the Elementalist,
• Aidan the Ranger,
• Mhenlo the Monk,
• Eve the Necromancer.
Some info about the gods of tyria
The Gods of Tyria are the five gods who in the theology of humans and other advanced races created the world of Tyria. They are:
• Balthazar: God of war and fire
• Dwayna: Goddess of life and air
• Grenth: God of death and ice, defeated Dhuum to obtain this position
• Lyssa: Twin goddess of beauty and illusion.
• Melandru: Goddess of nature and earth
They are also known as the "Old Gods" as they left the world of Tyria about a thousand years ago.
The History of the Old Gods in Tyria
According to legend, the Old Gods lived on Tyria while creating it. They made their homes in the city of Arah in the area known as Orr. It is implied that Dhuum was God of Death at this time, but was overthrown by Grenth sometime later.
In the year 1 BE, the Old Gods represented by Abaddon gifted all sentient races with the gift of magic, but it was abused as each race tried to use this gift to destroy the other. After a plea from King Doric, the Gods sealed away the power to control all of magic in the Bloodstones and shortly after Abaddon attempted to usurp control of Tyria from the other gods. After his defeat they left Tyria for good and went into the Rift in an event known as the Exodus of the Gods.
If you wanna know more about the gods, check wiki, its very interesting
but 5 gods, 5 heroes of ascalon? could i be right?
I know speculation
Onarik Amrak
The gods don't fight our wars for us. That's the lesson learnt in Nightfall. It's our world and our heroes are the defenders.
Besides we don't even know what the Great Destroyer actually is. This thread is pretty pointless when we don't even know what happens in GW:EN. How can we speculate what happens after?
Besides we don't even know what the Great Destroyer actually is. This thread is pretty pointless when we don't even know what happens in GW:EN. How can we speculate what happens after?
squan
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The gods don't fight our wars for us. That's the lesson learnt in Nightfall. It's our world and our heroes are the defenders.
Besides we don't even know what the Great Destroyer actually is. This thread is pretty pointless when we don't even know what happens in GW:EN. How can we speculate what happens after? |
I am just saying that i think the gods we know now will not be there in GW 2,
and that there will be a battle of the gods.
an with GW:EN i think the great destroyer, is a god or will become a sort of a god, just got a feeling that it has something to do with the 5 bloodstones, i know more speculation
Etta
Mhenlo as a god?! ok,....his special power would be echo healing breeze.
Guildmaster Cain
But Lyssa would be a mesmer, and none of the heroes are mesmers.
Besides your theory is flawed, since it were not the 5 gods that created Tyria, it was 6, including Abaddon.
Abaddon was the god that actually gave the mortal races the magical powers. The gods realized their error, when they began fighting another for these powers. Abaddon disagreed and didnt want the power taken away from the mortals. So they fought and locked Abaddon up in the basement. The power was taken from the mortals, so that they can not harness it all anymore. It was sealed in the Bloodstones.
Abaddon died at the end of NF, even more, his power has been stripped away from him and he nothing more then an empty shell. It is very unlikely he will return in GW2. Menzies is very likely the same as the Great Destroyer, as Balthazar is the Great Dwarf.
Anyway: what happens in those 250 years before GW2?
It is already known that the human race is shrinking in power. Ascalon is totally taken over by the Charr. That is about as much that can be said.
Besides your theory is flawed, since it were not the 5 gods that created Tyria, it was 6, including Abaddon.
Abaddon was the god that actually gave the mortal races the magical powers. The gods realized their error, when they began fighting another for these powers. Abaddon disagreed and didnt want the power taken away from the mortals. So they fought and locked Abaddon up in the basement. The power was taken from the mortals, so that they can not harness it all anymore. It was sealed in the Bloodstones.
Abaddon died at the end of NF, even more, his power has been stripped away from him and he nothing more then an empty shell. It is very unlikely he will return in GW2. Menzies is very likely the same as the Great Destroyer, as Balthazar is the Great Dwarf.
Anyway: what happens in those 250 years before GW2?
It is already known that the human race is shrinking in power. Ascalon is totally taken over by the Charr. That is about as much that can be said.
Free Runner
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And like Onarik said - The gods dont fight our wars and the world of Tyria belongs to the mortals now...not them.
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I am just saying that i think the gods we know now will not be there in GW 2, and that there will be a battle of the gods. |
I think these types of threads are best made after we know the outcome of EotN really.
mrmango
Also, Abaddon is already gone. Bad theory for other reasons said above. Please wait for EotN.
squan
hmmmm interesting, guys i must i never was interested in the gods, but since i have read some things on wiki, its very interesting.
well we got to wait till GWEN comes out, i am hoping for bloodstones
well we got to wait till GWEN comes out, i am hoping for bloodstones
Crepuscular
I just hope it doesn't turn into WoW copycat where you have to choose your alliance...
Guildmaster Cain
I think the gods powers are fading away. That is the reason why they didnt interfere in recent events, they actually couldnt. Maybe the gods will be replaced in this time or something. It is not as if it didnt happen before, since all gods were not the first, even Abbadon succeeded someone before him, just like Grenth and Dhuum. Look in the Apostate quest for proof.
squan
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I just hope it doesn't turn into WoW copycat where you have to choose your alliance...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Age_of_Camelot
Clord
Many possible reasons why guild wars gods not directly help Tyria.
- Can be damaged (Abaddon is good example from Guild Wars).
- Their actual power source is Bloodstones to get more power for use.
- They sealed two worlds from eachother with Bloodstones what not allow so powerful beings to free travel. Also Grenth is bit opposite god compared to Dwayna.
- Can be damaged (Abaddon is good example from Guild Wars).
- Their actual power source is Bloodstones to get more power for use.
- They sealed two worlds from eachother with Bloodstones what not allow so powerful beings to free travel. Also Grenth is bit opposite god compared to Dwayna.
Axagoth Baal
Well, it's hard to say something correct about what will be in GW:EN and GW 2... All I can imagine is that something will happen to the human race. I think this because of:
-the next enemy's name, the Great Destroyer;
-it seems there will be no selectable human race in GW 2, and the world will be the same;
-official site says clearly that something huge will change in tyria after the next campaign GW:EN
Who knows... will we all get wiped out?
-the next enemy's name, the Great Destroyer;
-it seems there will be no selectable human race in GW 2, and the world will be the same;
-official site says clearly that something huge will change in tyria after the next campaign GW:EN
Who knows... will we all get wiped out?
Domon Kasho
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Hold on while I find my Crystal Ball...
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no one knows anything about GW2 other then what we all have read in magazines/websites
Pericles
I apologize for my scepticism but relatively 250 years is not that much,
i think that Ascalon will have by then almost pushed back the Charr and start another Guild War with Kryta, messengers from both sides will be sent to the Istanis, Kurzicks, Luxons, Vabbians, they'll have to choose whom they support and EVEN the Gods will have to pick a side. This war will eventually perhaps lead to Ragnarok.
i think that Ascalon will have by then almost pushed back the Charr and start another Guild War with Kryta, messengers from both sides will be sent to the Istanis, Kurzicks, Luxons, Vabbians, they'll have to choose whom they support and EVEN the Gods will have to pick a side. This war will eventually perhaps lead to Ragnarok.
Free Runner
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start another Guild War with Kryta
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I'm guessing on more of a war between the races with the players being outcasts in the storyline to their chosen race.
Doomus
It'd be quite cool to visit Kryta and find that the location of the Ascalon Settlement is now a thriving city. 
General Marzaq
"A new God is born! A god that will destroy the others and bring about the end of the world! The cycle begins again!"
-Mad Soul, After completion of the Nightfall campaign
-Mad Soul, After completion of the Nightfall campaign
Free Runner
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"A new God is born! A god that will destroy the others and bring about the end of the world! The cycle begins again!"
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Just a paranoid spirit that has turned insane in torment. The name gives it away.
General Marzaq
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Just a paranoid spirit that has turned insane in torment. The name gives it away.
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It was almost three thousand years ago that a race of serpents stepped out of the Rift onto the soil of Tyria. Unlike ordinary serpents, these moved upright, used language, and adhered to an elaborate culture. They had been summoned by the old gods, brought to this world to be the custodians. Their task: shepherd the other creatures of the land through this time of transition, while the gods continued to create the world around them.- History of Tyria |
- 1769 BE Serpents arrive in Tyria.
- 10,000 BE Last signs of Giganticus Lupicus (the Great Giants) on Tyrian continent (best guess).
And a possible Titans-Destroyer connexion:
The Foundry of Failed Creations
Stone Basilica in Sorrow's Furnace.
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Goldenboy
I'm thinking that the Heroes of Ascalon will have their own monuments in the HoM (Since they're essentially adventuring along side you in GW1).
Sophitia Leafblade
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I apologize for my scepticism but relatively 250 years is not that much
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Guildmaster Cain
Maybe the 'true giants' were Titans, like in the greek myths. Titans were sort of the ancestors of the gods that are known nowadays.
First being in the universe was Choas (Khaos), he had several children, Gaia, Tartarus, Nyx, Erebus and Eros. Gaia bore Uranus, whom became the leader/king of the gods. He married Gaia (his mother) and got several children again. But he hated his children and hid them from the world. Gaia roused Kronos, one of Uranus Children to overthrow Uranus. He succeeded, becoming the new ruler of the gods, together with his sister Rhea (name from GW), whom he married. Afraid of being overthrown by his own children, he ate them alive when they were born. Only Zeus was saved from this fate, because his mother hid him. Zeus eventually grew up strong enough to force his father to throw up his brothers and sisters that were still in Kronos' stomach. Together with his brothers and sisters, he overthrew the Titans. Zeus married his sister Hera and became the leader of the gods.
Things sound familiar? Sibling gods, overthrowing former gods, gigantic predecessors
First being in the universe was Choas (Khaos), he had several children, Gaia, Tartarus, Nyx, Erebus and Eros. Gaia bore Uranus, whom became the leader/king of the gods. He married Gaia (his mother) and got several children again. But he hated his children and hid them from the world. Gaia roused Kronos, one of Uranus Children to overthrow Uranus. He succeeded, becoming the new ruler of the gods, together with his sister Rhea (name from GW), whom he married. Afraid of being overthrown by his own children, he ate them alive when they were born. Only Zeus was saved from this fate, because his mother hid him. Zeus eventually grew up strong enough to force his father to throw up his brothers and sisters that were still in Kronos' stomach. Together with his brothers and sisters, he overthrew the Titans. Zeus married his sister Hera and became the leader of the gods.
Things sound familiar? Sibling gods, overthrowing former gods, gigantic predecessors
Aubis
Maybe the gods and kormir will tranform into guildwars versions of the titans and most of the Heroes of Ascalon with turn into gods or with the new race find out that tyria has more gods than help the old gods like minor gods.
Clord
You mean possibly Demigods.
Etta
I just watch Steamboy on dvd, so I'll go with what Sophitia said. A bit like Acanum, where the steam tech and magic have an uneasy co-existence.
Free Runner
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Yep, just a paranoid spirit that has touched by Abaddon knowledge...
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Abaddon had a reason for Nightfall.He had been beaten and chained down for hundreds of years and had become insane. He wanted to throw the world into Nightfall due to the Gods chaining him down after his defeat. And furthermore it took him well over 250 years to actually put his Nightfall plan to action. Now please explain to me why the Goddess Of Truth would want to destroy the world?
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Not that much!? in the space of 250 years they could have had an industrial revolution, developed Cars and aircraft, discovered the atom and annihilated the world in nuclear warfare. Although im 100% sure that wont happen in Tyria, im just pointing out in 250 years ALOT can change civilization wise and even climatically
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General Marzaq
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No..just a paranoid spirit that has been subjected to torment...like i said. He was not called Mad Spirit for nothing.
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"Everyone here has been tainted by Abaddon in some way. How does one become tainted, you ask? It seems even the briefest contact with one of his servants is enough to pass on the taint of Abaddon." - Bureht Liuniz
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Now please explain to me why the Goddess Of Truth would want to destroy the world?
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See:
- The death of Abaddon awakes the Great Destroyer.
"Something moved beneath the sands of the Crystal Desert. Hungry spirits, seeking flesh." - Dynastic Spirit
- The Goddess Of Truth pronounces the true name of the Great Destroyer accidentally.
If the true name of either is spoken aloud, it would mean the end of the world as we know it. - High Priest Alkar
Free Runner
To clear something up when you said this:
I assumed you were saying that Kormir,Godess of Truth would turn around and try another Nightfall type event. But i'm now unsure as to wether you are talking about the Goddess Of Truth or your saying Abaddons defeat woke the Great Destoryer who in turn will try to destroy the world?
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themeteor
Strange/random theroy:
The Gods of old chained "the great destroyer" down or did the whole titan thing on him Abbadon was a big part of this OR whom ever was before Abbadon for whatever reason Kormir does not use any of her power to keep the chains on the great destroyer, assuming he is so powerful the chains need to maintained.
This lets the great destroyer break free, as the rest as the say is the future
The Gods of old chained "the great destroyer" down or did the whole titan thing on him Abbadon was a big part of this OR whom ever was before Abbadon for whatever reason Kormir does not use any of her power to keep the chains on the great destroyer, assuming he is so powerful the chains need to maintained.
This lets the great destroyer break free, as the rest as the say is the future
General Marzaq
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To clear something up when you said this:
I assumed you were saying that Kormir,Godess of Truth would turn around and try another Nightfall type event. But i'm now unsure as to wether you are talking about the Goddess Of Truth or your saying Abaddons defeat woke the Great Destoryer who in turn will try to destroy the world? |
In any case, the most important part of this sentence is that it suggest to us that exists somekind of god cycle and that the present gods not always have existed (the Great Destroyer involved).
Perhaps the Great Destroyer it's somekind of primeval god that existed before this universe was born. Somekind of Beast of the end of days.
Guardian of the Light
Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing
If we look at the first heroes we've met so far.
Devona the Warrior,
Cynn the Elementalist,
Aidan the Ranger
Mhenlo the Monk,
Eve the Necromancer.
We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer?
Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars?
I think I know who it is and her name starts with a G.
and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too?
I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2!
If we look at the first heroes we've met so far.
Devona the Warrior,
Cynn the Elementalist,
Aidan the Ranger
Mhenlo the Monk,
Eve the Necromancer.
We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer?
Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars?
I think I know who it is
and her name starts with a G.and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too?
I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2!
Onarik Amrak
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Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing
If we look at the first heroes we've met so far. Devona the Warrior, Cynn the Elementalist, Aidan the Ranger Mhenlo the Monk, Eve the Necromancer. We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer? Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars? I think I know who it is and her name starts with a G.and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too? I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2! |
squan
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Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing
If we look at the first heroes we've met so far. Devona the Warrior, Cynn the Elementalist, Aidan the Ranger Mhenlo the Monk, Eve the Necromancer. We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer? Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars? I think I know who it is and her name starts with a G.and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too? I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2! |
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?"
i also did not know Gwens mother "Sarah"was in the underworld
never noticed her in the hundreds of uw runs i have done. And about the 4 other heroes, since it are heroes of ascalon i will stick with 5/6
ChavSlayer
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Also, Abaddon is already gone. Bad theory for other reasons said above. Please wait for EotN.
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