Ok so wtf. I was stood in ToA for 15 minutes and I saw about 20 Mo/W's enter the UW. They all had NO guild, they all had GREY TATTOO armor, and they all had very VERY botlike names.
Of all of them I whispered, ONE replied "YES" and that was it.
Could this be the "new" place to earn cash, since the AI fixes? Perhaps someone gets them into the UW then actives a repetitive farming "bot" once inside?
Any idea anyone? (saw this in EU-ToA D1 [English])
Underworld...the new Elona Reach? Oo
MrSlayer
Teh [prefession]-zorz
Yup 1 of there new places, your point :/
onerabbit
since the loot scaling they farm ectos and sell them for cash instead.
Lourens
This sucks some1 has to do something about it im happy with the lower loot after farmed the same area maybe they should make a program that u only can run GW when u dont got an other program running at the background maybe that will stop those stupit bots (6)
Jiao Yang
This is one of the main reasons why the price of Ecto has dropped and it won't recover.
Rusty Deth
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Originally Posted by Lourens
maybe they should make a program that u only can run GW when u dont got an other program running at the background maybe that will stop those stupit bots (6)
Windows is a program.
And what about TS and Vent? Also some of us Media Center PC's like to watch tv and play GW at the same time.
And what about TS and Vent? Also some of us Media Center PC's like to watch tv and play GW at the same time.
Crazyvietguy
Yeah, I've noticed this too.. Its really annoying because it causes the UW to drop crappy for REAL players.
So until ANET can formulate a plan to stop bots from going into the UW looks like ectos are going to stay at the minimum 7k. However when they announce a change, ill be buying those 7k ectos like they are candy
So until ANET can formulate a plan to stop bots from going into the UW looks like ectos are going to stay at the minimum 7k. However when they announce a change, ill be buying those 7k ectos like they are candy
zorbi
I don't buy 7k each because I know they drop to 5k at least.
Puebert
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So until ANET can formulate a plan to stop bots from going into the UW looks like ectos are going to stay at the minimum 7k. However when they announce a change, ill be buying those 7k ectos like they are candy
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Originally Posted by zorbi
I don't buy 7k each because I know they drop to 5k at least.
Heh, I've been buying them @ 6K.
Swift Thief
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Originally Posted by Lourens
This sucks some1 has to do something about it im happy with the lower loot after farmed the same area maybe they should make a program that u only can run GW when u dont got an other program running at the background maybe that will stop those stupit bots (6)
That is a great idea, but it should still run when there are certain programs like TS, Vent, iTunes, Winamps, Microsoft Word, etc. Ones that have been approved to not be illegal.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by Crazyvietguy
Yeah, I've noticed this too.. Its really annoying because it causes the UW to drop crappy for REAL players.
Really?
Would you care to explain how the UW is dropping crappy for REAL players because it is being farmed? Please give examples of how an instanced game could have impact from one instance to the other. Please use specific facts and back them up with statements from the Devs. Swift Thief
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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
Really?
Would you care to explain how the UW is dropping crappy for REAL players because it is being farmed? Please give examples of how an instanced game could have impact from one instance to the other. Please use specific facts and back them up with statements from the Devs. Um... It lowers the price of ectos?
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by Swift Thief
Um... It lowers the price of ectos?
Yes it does kill the price of Ecto, thank Anet for that.The post I was responding to was discussing crappy drops. Not the crappy price of Ecto.
Avatara
where does it say that ecto should be worth a lot? ^^
attackofthecold
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Originally Posted by Swift Thief
That is a great idea, but it should still run when there are certain programs like TS, Vent, iTunes, Winamps, Microsoft Word, etc. Ones that have been approved to not be illegal.
Impossible, to do that you would have to make a database of EVERY computer program ever created, and those created from custom source code that people dont release. The point is if someone really wants to bot there is no way to stop them... If you fix one way they find another, if you remove that way they use a different way.Also are you sure there bots ? Because i saw on the news once, that some person made a lot of money by paying mexicans to play some game for him. Then he sold the drops for real money. So are you sure there bots ? And not just some person who only knows how to say 'yes' ? drakun01
I believe A.Net has, in the past, nerfed drops in areas which are heavily botted. That may be the answer, for you people who are wondering about why being botted screws over the drop rate.
attackofthecold
I think A.Net is missing whats going on or just dont want to fix the problem. When they nerf drop rates some place bots will go to another place. Nerfing drops do nothing to drop botting. Its only a temp fix and it gets normal players mad. Instead of tracking bots they sould work on making GuildWars more secure so bot programs cant manipulate whats being done from the client.
NEOgeo
they arent even clever enough to be proper bots .. they are simple MACRO's .. simply repeating the same mouse and keyboard strokes over and over .... the only way anet can ban them is to observe them.
MakeMeHeal
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Originally Posted by Lourens
This sucks some1 has to do something about it im happy with the lower loot after farmed the same area maybe they should make a program that u only can run GW when u dont got an other program running at the background maybe that will stop those stupit bots (6)
that wont help, ever heard of a bypass? gunzonline is flooded with hackers that know how to bypass the ijji / internatianol gunz launcher.
Destinyy
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Originally Posted by Avatara
where does it say that ecto should be worth a lot? ^^
Ummmm, maybe because they only drop in a few elite areas like UW and maybe because it's not the easiest thing to farm them? Therefore they are (normally without bots) in short supply and high demand...
Bots seem to screw it all up for all of us... eBay gold RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs gotta get their gold somewhere...  SUCKAGE As NEOgeo says, the ONLY way to stop them is by having in game admins monitor popular places much the same way as the OP did... anet doesn't seem to have too many of these tho...
Selor
Why is this in the farming thread, may I ask, it's not about farming, it's about bot abuse.
Destinyy
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Originally Posted by Selor
Why is this in the farming thread, may I ask, it's not about farming, it's about bot abuse.
There's always 1 non staff mod around... hehehehe :P
Maybe because the topic has moved more to being about how bots screw up farming for the human players? The topic is very farming related if you ask me... *Sorry for off topic post, just had to clear this up attackofthecold
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that wont help, ever heard of a bypass? gunzonline is flooded with hackers that know how to bypass the ijji / internatianol gunz launcher.
If the botters are decent enough to make a bot from scratch then they will always bypass it. But if there Macros or some graphic based thing like auto it then bypasses are worthless.
corey54321
I know a few people that play in other games with bots acually he sets up his bots to repeat after 3 hrs of him farming and him at the key board so a net wont be able to tell their looking at run to run bots those are eazy to spot the ones i'm talking abot are about impossable to tell
Also gw blocking programs from running might effect how the game runs and also any1 with a quick class in VB can make new programs that they havent blocked theirs just to many ways for boters to stay alive i think they should kick the loot scaling and maybe knock u offline if u are typing the EXACT command over and over like 5-10 of the same ones. thats possable if they can look over key strokes from the severs
Skuld
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Originally Posted by Lourens
This sucks some1 has to do something about it im happy with the lower loot after farmed the same area maybe they should make a program that u only can run GW when u dont got an other program running at the background maybe that will stop those stupit bots (6)
Not the idea of the month..
Don't come up with any more ideas in future, wouldn't want you to hurt anything..
legendary_Ace
I think they should make Mods on GW to observe people, mute people and send ban reports.
Kinda like Runescape did?
tuna-fish_sushi
They could add in something small like one of those little:
Type what you see in the box below ________ AB2314G(weird style so bots cant decipher them) it may be a nuisance but it stops bots from creating 1000's of yahoo/whatever accoutns... j_unit66
tuna-fish i could see it not being a nuisance if they set it up so that you only have to type that in if youve re zoned.
Enko
wonder what kind of build they're using that's simple enough for a bot to complete it . ..
vita lite
i agree with tuna. thats just what i was thinking. only has to be 4 characters for 256 diff combinations and would only take us a second or two to fill in. if its a flat image bots would not recognise individual characters.
Roshi_ikkyu
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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
They could add in something small like one of those little:
Type what you see in the box below ________ AB2314G(weird style so bots cant decipher them) it may be a nuisance but it stops bots from creating 1000's of yahoo/whatever accoutns... Your got your bots confused there, its like saying R2D2 and C3PO are the same model. And it would be a nice idea, but then its easier to overcome, the gold farms employ people to write the code, bypassing the encryption, and with wages in china being what they are in the rural villages (where these places set up), it's cost effective to have 3-4-5 people entering codes. Selor
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Originally Posted by Destinyy
There's always 1 non staff mod around... hehehehe :P
Maybe because the topic has moved more to being about how bots screw up farming for the human players? The topic is very farming related if you ask me... *Sorry for off topic post, just had to clear this up Ok, my mistake, thanks for clearing that up. ANd yeah, this is horrid. Cookie Cookie Cookie
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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
They could add in something small like one of those little:
Type what you see in the box below ________ AB2314G(weird style so bots cant decipher them) it may be a nuisance but it stops bots from creating 1000's of yahoo/whatever accoutns... It is relatively easy to bypass this type of security check, a recognition program would be all that is needed.
daraaksii
Who cares? I like how ecto is dropping. You don't need that much cash anymore.
rezha
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Originally Posted by Swift Thief | That is a great idea, but it should still run when there are certain programs like TS, Vent, iTunes, Winamps, Microsoft Word, etc. Ones that have been approved to not be illegal. A system like this already exists, it's called trusted computing and nobody that can use a pc and that is not paid by a major could ever think anything good about it. If you're good enough to write a bot and you can affrod to lose your account as soon as you're cought, go ahead, that's my 2 cents. If ppl bots, it's anet fault.
ZenRgy
Yeah because the gold farmers didn't go to UW before this update. >_>
tuna-fish_sushi
Well they could write the codes in like paint or something and make it so it shows up as just a .jpg or something (not the computer expert here)
Its basically just more work for those chinese farmers with 1000's of bots, if they had to employ more people they might get run out of business. Would also protect against people who leave their bots on all night and come back with +50k. If people had to sit at their computers and watch their bot do the work and type in the password its almost as if their doing it, might get some people off botting. Although it will never stop everyone ><
Nkah Sennyt
Bots have always been, bots will always be. Learn to live with it.
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