Please AB!

viper11025

viper11025

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)

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Realy what's going on?
I keep trying to AB but I only get to fight once every 15 minutes of waiting.
No luxons today?
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6360/gw013mv4.jpg
We all got so bored we danced.
(The pic has my build on it BTW)
Please AB MORE!
(This is not a rant, but a suggestion.AB is good for testing builds and making PUGS for PvE)

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

There might already be too many ab's going on.Happens to me a lot.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's because of the servers. ABs only start 30 seconds after a match has ended, and unfortunately, there are alot of ABs going on at the same time. Which is the reason you couldn't AB. Trust me, both Luxons AND Kurzicks have this problem.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

You know why i don't AB? because people like you that don't bring elite skills.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Alliance Battles are filled with some of the most miserable and rude Guild Wars players. I'm not ready to be harrassed again.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
You know why i don't AB? because people like you that don't bring elite skills.
Rofl
Hi alliance member :O

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Odd. I've generally only had good experiences in AB, though I havent played now in a couple months, and also, I tend to play on the international severs. I love AB though. Just wish they would implement a NF version as well.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

From what I've heard, there is a wait on the other side too since there are only 5 games going on at a time. Apparently only 5, don't quote me on that.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Better than adding anything to AB they should at least double the amount of games going on, if you're right.

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

You know youre doing something good once they start yelling "NOOB!", "Kurdichz!1!!!!11","Sux0n!!1!!!111!" etc etc etc.

Trixz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Dude ab is for freaking noobs who don't know how to play Guild Wars.

Oh ya, way to forgot to equip an elite...

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

Now that elite mission entry does not require town ownership, AB's have never been so pointless. I'll admit they can be entertaining at times in a lighthearted way, but anet really stuck it to AB'ers by opening up elite mission access without changing the town reward system. I like the idea of elite missions opening up, but what's the point of faction farming endlessly for control of Cavalon/Zu now?

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

You should take those peoples names out of that picture, but like everyone has said, AB is a fun beginner PVP like random arenas but its appeal doesn't last long and is only good for a night or two a month.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

Since when has using an Elite, or not, been required? If the build works (didn't check screen shot, speaking generally here) who cares what skills it has?

Back to the point, I'm more willing to believe the "maximum number of current games" theory. After having both sides standing around going "Damn it <insert other side> join!" with there being a good number of districts and several persons trying to join... it adds up.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

Suppose I agree with this. Used to enjoy AB, sure you get plenty of noob builds around, but so what? Was still fun. Course then it ends up taking like 15 minutes to get a match. So I moved back to the battle isles.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

For me, Alliance Battles are not just full of "freaking noobs who don't know how to play Guild Wars"* or "some of the most miserable and rude Guild Wars players"**.

*It's like saying Random Arena, Team Arena, and Hero's Ascent are arenas full of the best of the best PvP players... people rage quit on all sides, bring horrible builds, and don't understand how to play in the arena they are in.

**Or it's like saying Random Arena, Team Arena, and Hero's Ascent is full of the most polite and helpful people in Guild Wars... how about the elitism of the rank system in HA? R0? You aren't going to get into an R3 or higher group, yeah, quite helpful indeed. People rage quit in Random Arena ALL THE TIME, worse than Alliance Battles.

Nor do I think "AB is a fun beginner PVP like random arenas but its appeal doesn't last long and is only good for a night or two a month"... right, explain that to the people waiting because of full servers in the Alliance Battle waiting areas, or to my friends I've only made because of Alliance Battles, and who mostly do just that.

Those blanket statements are just wrong and trollish.

I enjoy my Alliance Battles, thank you very much, and I am not a 'freaking noob', nor am I 'miserable and rude'.

And to the OP, sorry about the waiting, it happens, especially during certain times of the day. International supposedly gets faster games, but you should not quote me on that.

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

I used to play alot AB when Factions just came out (mainly for getting amber/jade)

Reason why I dont play AB:
Waiting time (not enough servers)
So many ppl playing noob builds (check worst build thread in Gladiator's Arena sub forum, mainly come from RA and AB)
Immature people (yeah very nice to hear kurd**ks, suxons every battle)
Not rewarding (getting factions thru AB too slow compared to, say FF)
I hate random pvp (ragequiters, afkers, spies, griefers)

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
Nor do I think "AB is a fun beginner PVP like random arenas but its appeal doesn't last long and is only good for a night or two a month"... right, explain that to the people waiting because of full servers in the Alliance Battle waiting areas, or to my friends I've only made because of Alliance Battles, and who mostly do just that.
In a bad mood tonight? I said that they were fun, but the long wait for a game makes it loose its appeal really fast. If I have to wait 15+ minutes just for a game that will last 5-10 minutes, something is wrong. So when things are slow elsewhere, play AB is what I was saying.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

Kurzicks outnumber Luxons 5 to 1, I think.

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Natural
Now that elite mission entry does not require town ownership, AB's have never been so pointless. I'll admit they can be entertaining at times in a lighthearted way, but anet really stuck it to AB'ers by opening up elite mission access without changing the town reward system. I like the idea of elite missions opening up, but what's the point of faction farming endlessly for control of Cavalon/Zu now?
Probably for the merchant discounts.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter
Since when has using an Elite, or not, been required? If the build works (didn't check screen shot, speaking generally here) who cares what skills it has?
You're effectively gimping a build by not including an elite.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

People don't AB because 4 of the 5 maps are purposely unbalanced and stacked in favor of one side. So why would anyone wanna go play on a map that is inherently stacked against them? It makes no sense, unless perhaps one is a masochist.

Not to mention the rewards for winning are really bad and hence offer little further incentive to put up with playing on maps that are stacked against you.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Just change your guild to Luxon and you will get a lot more games.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
So why would anyone wanna go play on a map that is inherently stacked against them?
If that were true, then less people would be at Fort Aspenwood...

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

sheesh the only time I've AB'ed when I was 'forced' by an old guild (I quickly had enough of that and left the guild).

The entire concept of factions was poorly conceived, and that's why there's absolutely *zero* follow-up with that in nf.

I'd say it's good for one thing: balthazar faction for non-pvp'ers. However, rarely do non-pvp'ers ever need balth

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Heh despite people saying AB is horrible, the arena is most of the time pretty packed. There's a lot of people out there who actually enjoy it. I play a lot of TA battles as well, but let's not talk about the number of clueless people there, ouch. OK, true, there's no noobs in HA, that's just because they don't make it past the first map. Everytime someone posts something on AB because they think it sucks to wait for 15 minutes to do something you happen to like, there's always idiots posting stuff like: Don't play AB it's bad for your health. LOL hardcore players are a minority, the rest is just casually owning AB battles. It's the only get-in-quick-and-own-some PvP around anyway that makes sense. RA is spoilt by farmers and leavers and aspenwood, well, let's say you are lucky if there is < 3 leechers. For casual players that want to PvP AB is pretty lame, they either wait forever, or don't PvP at all .

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

To OP: There are still people that AB (including myself) and guilds as a whole. However I can’t stand some of these guilds forcing their members to AB most of the time, instead of enjoying GW as a whole.

As for those calling AB immature and non-skillful, you should rethink about how the other arenas (excluding random arenas) are like. The repetitiveness is simply horrid; it’s the same build over, and over again. No uniqueness what so ever. To me it’s all about the testing ground of AB and random arenas. Yes I can tolerate the leavers, lechers, and immaturity to the black and white skill base of the other PvP arenas. Furthermore there is still a problem with people being immature in general across all PvP arenas. Of course this is my own personal preference and everyone has their own.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Earth X
It's because of the servers. ABs only start 30 seconds after a match has ended, and unfortunately, there are alot of ABs going on at the same time. Which is the reason you couldn't AB. Trust me, both Luxons AND Kurzicks have this problem.
This is misinformation, I checked both sides last night and there were 9 afk luxons on one and 2 full districts of kurzicks on the other.

warren_kn

warren_kn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

London, England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
People don't AB because 4 of the 5 maps are purposely unbalanced and stacked in favor of one side. So why would anyone wanna go play on a map that is inherently stacked against them? It makes no sense, unless perhaps one is a masochist.

Not to mention the rewards for winning are really bad and hence offer little further incentive to put up with playing on maps that are stacked against you.
Why play on the 4 maps? Fun, more of a challenge ,maybe? The rewards are what they are. Remember even though you are competing against the other faction in AB, in reality you are competing against the other alliances of your faction, to whom the rewards are the same as you're receiving, therefore the level of reward is irrelevant. Or, are you looking at this from the point of view of maxing the title, in which case could this be yet another "I want this right now" post.

poobert

poobert

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Inkland

R/

Playing AB when the map is against you is perhaps when it is most fun. If your team plays right, you can still steam roll the enemy. Mind you they would have to be a pretty bad enemy if you managed to push them right back to their base, so its not supprising they loose.

There are still alot of guilds playing AB. Ocassionaly you get match after match of guild teams against pugs, which nearly always eliminates any map advantage (pugs mob. Always. Its the law of Alliance Battles.)

For the most part, if you turn off local chatter, you get a much more plesant playing experience.

As for the rewards, you get Alliance faction very very fast, even if you loose all the time. Donating to your Alliance is useless unless you want a title, but it is the fastest way to collect amber/jade for armour.

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Presler
Probably for the merchant discounts.
Especially now that there are lockpicks, now the discounts are a lot more useful.

Destinyy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Faction of War [ARES]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
You're effectively gimping a build by not including an elite.
Lol, comments like these are funny... Just cos there is no elite, don't make the build redundant... Sure, elites help, but they don't nullify the build...

As for AB, I think it's a fun place to run around and mash people when u got nothing better to do... Leavers are the most annoying, as well as thos afkers that join teams then never move from the base (leechers I think).

Once you in and get rolling it's pretty fun tho, killing people, being killed... I generally have a good experience... I tend to ignore the "ZOMG KURZUCK, SUXON" kids all together, not much they can do when you don't retaliate... And I always start with GL HF in public chat then GG after (Win or loose)

That said, I still don't like the fact the PvP influences PvE... the 2 should be seperate...

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

What comes to mind the most about ABing (I have 650,000 faction donated)

#1. I want the right - move our team gets right - OMG don't you get it move you dumb (insert swear words here) - MOVE WE ARE TAKING RIGHT YOU GO TO MIDDLE - OMG ARE YOU STUPID - MOVE

#2. CAP CAP CAP - you guys aren't capping - cap dont fight cap cap cap - I am the only player capping

#3. the whispers during the match - you killed me I'm gonna get you - I'm telling everyone to kill you cause you suck

#4. leechers

#5. Conspiracies - Watch out for the spys - they send over spys to make us loose. ----

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hehe the spies are always funny to deal with. But yea, if AB had more maps and more equal maps, it would be much better.

shrouded^god

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouchie
What comes to mind the most about ABing (I have 650,000 faction donated)

#1. I want the right - move our team gets right - OMG don't you get it move you dumb (insert swear words here) - MOVE WE ARE TAKING RIGHT YOU GO TO MIDDLE - OMG ARE YOU STUPID - MOVE

#2. CAP CAP CAP - you guys aren't capping - cap dont fight cap cap cap - I am the only player capping

#3. the whispers during the match - you killed me I'm gonna get you - I'm telling everyone to kill you cause you suck

#4. leechers

#5. Conspiracies - Watch out for the spys - they send over spys to make us loose. ----
How true...I hate #1 with a passion...but its something we all have to do with. AB is still fun to just kill people...and get killed when you have nothing else to do.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Agree, but the sad truth is that AB isn't the thing anymore in GW. Peoples has been either grinding away on new titles or doing HM missions again or working on their characters in Nightfall.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by viper11025
Realy what's going on?
I keep trying to AB but I only get to fight once every 15 minutes of waiting.
No luxons today?
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6360/gw013mv4.jpg
We all got so bored we danced.
(The pic has my build on it BTW)
Please AB MORE!
(This is not a rant, but a suggestion.AB is good for testing builds and making PUGS for PvE)
It is no wonder assassin are the way they are in Ab look at all those attack skills.This probably one reason I don't AB that much a lot of bad builds.It would nice if ppl carried res sigs as well.This so players won't have to be ressed all the time at shrines or at base camp.

bryann380

bryann380

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/

Not everyone cares about PvP in any way, including AB. I'm one of them. So no thanks...

And to the guy that questioned a build for not having an elite, there's nothing that says you must use one.

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixz
Dude ab is for freaking noobs who don't know how to play Guild Wars.

Oh ya, way to forgot to equip an elite...
You see this thread could've been a constructive debate on the state of Alliance Battles.

But it's Jacks like him that turn it into a flame/hate thread. This happens all too often...

Trixz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
You see this thread could've been a constructive debate on the state of Alliance Battles.

But it's Jacks like him that turn it into a flame/hate thread. This happens all too often...
Dude, please don't flame me. It isn't cool. Not cool at all. Perhaps you should get on like...WoW forums if you are going to be so negative.