Fav Rit PVE Elite

ghostkai

ghostkai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

RISE

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Decided out of boredom (my 2nd birthday present didn't do it for me lol) to remake my rit with the intention of getting legendary survivor.

Now i've gotten LS before so i don't need tips on getting it, but having not touched my rit in 7 months and having a elite rit tome sitting around i was wondering what you guys think is the best Rit Elite in PVE at the moment?

Not for farming Etc. just general PVE'ing. thanks a bunch in advance guys

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Weapon of Remedy or Offering of Spirit, both elites that you can aquire near the end of NF.

Ishtar Serket

Ishtar Serket

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Gods and Legends (GODS)

It really depends on the build. Do you want a spirit spammer build, rest rit or channeler? Attuned Was Songkai is one of the better elites to me just because it can be used for most types of builds but it really depends on which way you run your rit.

ghostkai

ghostkai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

RISE

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i was just wondering whats hot in PVE atm among good rits, i assume a spammer wud be safer for survivor anyway.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

I actually like soul twisting a lot in PvE.
But if you're going for legendary survivor, go straight-up spirit bomber: max communing, high channeling, rest into spawning and:
[skill]pain[/skill][skill]bloodsong[/skill][skill]shadowsong[/skill][skill]anguish[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Shelter[/skill][skill]Boon of Creation[/skill]

Place shelter waaay back, so you're the only one or one of the few within it's reach, and you should be fine.

ghostkai

ghostkai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

RISE

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thnx for the advice arkain, any particular place u suggest using this build? i.e jade knights outside marketplace.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

PvE in general. If you want to xp farm, then go with this:
[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Shielding Hands[/skill][skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful weapon[/skill][skill]Ancestors' Rage[/skill][skill]Spirit Rift[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill]

Prot 9
Rest 16
Channeling 11(or 12, dont remember)

All +3 runes(should lower your hp to either 105 or 135, depending on having or not an hp mod on your offhand), rest 20% HSR offhand, Totem Axe.
Keep either VwK or SH up at all times, spamming vengeful weapon and the channeling nukes as you go. This build is not mine(well the variation is, but the base isn't).

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Personally I think [wiki]Grasping Was Kuurong[/wiki] is an awesome elite...but you are going for survivor so...

Wanderlust is "ok" as an elite imo, but when I'm going Spirit Spammer I much prefer Ritual Lord, then again I also take Displacement, SHelter and Union - Displacement shouldn't be used without Rit Lord, it just dies too fast!

In the Restoration line...yes, probably [wiki]Weapon of Remedy[/wiki] is the nicest. Could consider combining it with [wiki]Protective was Kaolai[/wiki], [wiki]Vengeful Weapon[/wiki] and [wiki]Renewing Memories[/wiki].

Abbel Calima

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

The Netherlands

Envoys From Above [soul]

Me/

Wanderlust is surely my favourite elite rt skill to have.

GoodEnoughForMe

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Pale Blue Dot

The Royal Phoenix

[skill]Wanderlust[/skill] Wreaks havoc on foes in both PvE and PvP, especially when combined with [skill]Earthbind[/skill]

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

I've no idea why people keep bringing weapon of remedy up: It's weaker than VwK, and people have to hit you for it to work (people with 60 armor don't like to be hit). Where are you using this? PvP? That'd be laughable.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

It's quick, cheap healing with conditional removal.

VwK is a farming skill, Weapon of Remedy is used to support party members, not solo mobs.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy
It's quick, cheap healing with conditional removal.
...IF someone hits the dude. If not and this is your condition removal, he just degens to death, or stays blind for the duration. Seems sucky to me.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

You've obviously never seen N/Rt's in action (but that's a PvP story)

Weapon of Remedy would never be your only heal on your bar if you were play restoration rit, if we are out of battle and someone is suffering from degen then I would use spirit light / mend body and soul.

It's a spell to be used in combat to remove conditions and as I said, quick heals - have you not noticed how PvE mobs will train and sit on targets, rarely swapping.

Eg. Afflicted Rangers have dazed, most monk condition removal suffers a great increase on cast time from dazed, however weapon of remedy would only take 1/2 a second to cast under the effects of dazed, making it much easier to remove dazed off yourself if needed (or said dazed monk) because if they were already attacking him unless he's dead they'll keep attacking him.

And to reiterate, you're comparing 2 elites with completely different functions to each other.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

No, actually I'm not comparing it to anything. I just can't fathom why someone with mend b&s would take this with his and waste an elite slot. Its not like the recharge in mb&s is bad.

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Vengeful Weapon and Weapon of Remedy are a deadly combination: they allow one to heal themselves or an ally while dealing unconditional damage to the attacker.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArKaiN
No, actually I'm not comparing it to anything. I just can't fathom why someone with mend b&s would take this with his and waste an elite slot. Its not like the recharge in mb&s is bad. Well you were giving points on how VwK is so much better, as far as heal Rits have for elites it's either WoR or Preservation.

WoR's appeal is the 1/4 cast, condition removal and life steal (rather than a pure heal).

Bai

Bai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Houston, TX

If you want to be a restoration ritualist, imo.. I dont really think that any of the restoration elites are really worth the elite slot. Usually I just take an energy management elite like Attuned Was Songkai or Spirit Channeling and it would be fine.

For a spirit spammer, I would take Wanderlust as your elite and use Essence Strike or Spirit Siphon as your energy management. Another plus from the channeling attribute is Painful Bond, which adds a handful of damage. You can also take Ritual Lord or Soul Twisting if you want to be more efficient in PvE and make your spirits recharge faster since you'll almost always be moving in PvE except for in certain missions.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

It may be kinda boring, but i just like to run the good old rit lord build. I also may go with preservation or spirit light weapon if i go resto.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

It's a toss up between [skill]weapon of remedy[/skill] and [skill]offering of spirit[/skill]

They're both chock full of all the awesomeness a body needs.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArKaiN
I've no idea why people keep bringing weapon of remedy up: It's weaker than VwK, and people have to hit you for it to work (people with 60 armor don't like to be hit). Where are you using this? PvP? That'd be laughable. You don't *have* to use it on only yourself.

You can spam it on whoever else is getting hit but if things start to come after you you can the start spamming it on yourself.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
You don't *have* to use it on only yourself.

You can spam it on whoever else is getting hit but if things start to come after you you can the start spamming it on yourself. QFT. Vengeful was Khanei reduces you to standing around and hoping things come hit you. Weapon of remedy spam makes you sort of a half healer half damage dealer, which is pretty nifty.

As for it's use in PvP, I've seen a few rits spamming it during splits to give the other side a little disincentive to smacking you about the buttocks.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

wow... am im the only one who uses Preservation? Just put it next to you and you dont need to heal yourself, its quick, cheap and counts as a spirit (good to use with spirit light, mend body and soul and spirit transfer or skills thta give bonus if u have apsirit next to you)

Or Attuned Was Songkai, its awsome, you can keep on using Life, Recuperation and Recovery... heres what you get: +3 regen, conditions expire 50% faster and 140 health at each 30 seconds, and you will never run out of energy... did i said this affects all allies?

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

[skill]Offering of Spirit[/skill] or [skill]Ritual Lord[/skill]

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

I really like Spirit Light Weapon as a resto rit...

I also like Offering of Spirit.

And Rt/P Spirit's Strength is really fun to play as well =D

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

well I was going with Rit lord but I am going to haev to go with offering of spirit.

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Offering of Spirit is a good choice to use your tome on because it's not too easy to cap; the boss is very close to the end of NF.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

[skill]Soul Twisting[/skill] one of my favorite elites for PVE, for PVP my favs are [skill]Wanderlust[/skill] and [skill]Grasping Was Kuurong[/skill]

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

MY Fav Rit Elites (theres too many good ones to just pick one) would have to be:

[skill]Preservation[/skill]-[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]-[skill]Soul Twisting[/skill]

Preservation is a great cheap skill that helps no end in long drawn out Battles and in high pressure periods. My Elite of choice if i really had to make one.

Weapon of Remedy is great not only for healing, but also for condition removeal and damage to the enemy making it a good all rounder.

Soul Twisting is a great skill for a communing build to maintain Union etc. Simply Equip Pain, Destroy it, Cast Union wait till its nearly dead, destroy it and repeat.