The Origins of the 55?

Destinyy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Faction of War [ARES]

16 May 2007 at 10:51 - 1

I am putting this in the farming section because it's discussing abuild that is 99% used for farming...

Been playing 55 a lot lately, and I have been wondering; where did the build/concept/idea come from? Who started it? Did Anet code the monk skills with it in mind?

My thoughts wander towards the latter, Anet coded it... I mean, think about it... -50 Cesta, what would you use this for other than 55ing? seriously, it's stats are shit!!! All the key 55ing skills are to be found in prophecies as well, where u get the -50 Cesta.

I strongly doubt some bright spark out there came up with this build while playing the game, altho it is a possibility.

So what are your thoughts on the matter? How do you think it started?

Better yet!!! Do you have any proof of the origins of the build???

Rainbird

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

16 May 2007 at 11:09 - 2

I'm pretty sure that it was made by someone in the community.
And besides, all the low lvl items are crappy, this one just happened to have -50 hp, I don't think it was intended for farming.
The 55 is just one of many cookie cutter builds out there, and they all show creativity in the community.
ANet didn't code IWAY either.

- Hype Cronoz

Avoc

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

16 May 2007 at 11:17 - 3

I'm too tired to do a search, but it was made by a dude. The -50hp cesta is an item you could use to hide health just like there are negative energy items you use to hide energy from mesmers.

G E A R S

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

E/Mo

16 May 2007 at 11:19 - 4

Why do you guys think the totem axe was added in prophecies by anet?

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

16 May 2007 at 11:25 - 5

the -50 hp cesta has top stats for a low level item (not taking the -50 hp in account). The idea has to have come from the community. Just brainstorming about regen is obvious, the less hp you have the more percentage of your total health you regen. So taking all Sup runes with Protective spirit makes you durable, adding regen makes you 'godlike'. I even think the -50 hp cesta was added later.

- Experimentation with Regen and lower HP
- Addition of PS to the mix
- -50hp Cesta
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55 monk

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

16 May 2007 at 11:27 - 6

a while ago I heard that the -50 grim was infact designed to assist necros.

The act of 55ing came about with a better understanding of the maths involved and the mechanics of the game. there slight almost trivial bits of information, like a certain spell firing off before the dmg is recieved, or the regen rate of another spell.

It most certainly wasn't coded by the devs, its the talent of the community and a single/few smart players. Just remember you can never invent a build; chances are someone is already using it. You just discover it.

Hunter 67

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

16 May 2007 at 11:36 - 7

ok... i dont post much but i think i hav to post for this issue. A few months ago i was linked to the earliest known thread for 55ing. Unfortunately i cannot remember who it was by but it included small vids and pics of evidence, also when 55ing started prot bond was used over PS. From memory the responses to this guide indicated that nothing like the 55 had been seen before.

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

16 May 2007 at 11:44 - 8

Jesterbot is the orginal creator.

His first build can be found here.

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=357625

He then altered it so that it could be doable with a level 20 character by including the -50hp offhand item and 5 superior runes.

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=362793

Very interesting and well written guides.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

16 May 2007 at 11:45 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by G E A R S

Why do you guys think the totem axe was added in prophecies by anet? Because the Prophecies Campaign didn't have the concept of unique items. It was one of a bunch of uniques added, most likely to show some love to the older campaign.

Green Items were a solution to the lack of perfect items dropping in game, in game drops stats are always random. The only perfect items, before the later chapters were released, were from collectors and weaponsmiths. Instead of adding more collectors Anet added greens. Which always have the maximum number of modifiers and upgrades possible on the weapon type (Besides a few Noob island examples).

Calming the anger of players who couldn't get a perfect gold weapon to suite there builds, I once saw a perfect Smite monk staff going for 100k +trade. This was a few weeks into public GW release, so that price was charging $50 for a tank of gas in 1930.

Destinyy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Faction of War [ARES]