
Anyho... I believe Rits can heal. Heck, I *know* they can heal - 5 energy Spirit Light has something to do with this - but I'd still rather have a monk.
Healing sucks. Prot's where it's at. And monks kick ass at prot.
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Prot for ritualists is either weapon spells or communing spirits., Weapon spells can't stack and don't work quite as efficiently as monk prot, but weapon of warding is still nothing to sneeze at even post-nerf.
Communing spirits are a hell of a lot harder to manage now, but that just makes things more fun. I've been running this in hard mode lately, works great. [skill]union[/skill][skill]displacement[/skill][skill]shelter[/skill][skill]soul twisting[/skill][skill]signet of binding[/skill][skill]boon of creation[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]optional slot the optional slot can be signet of creation, vital weapon, mantra of concentration, summon spirits, or anything else you find handy. Works surprisingly well as supplemental prot if you manage the spirits well. Rit Lord is pretty much dead unless you're riding a BiP, though. Snow Bunny
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again, all preference, theres absolutely nothing wrong with choosing the monk over a rit. i like healing more than protting, because i can see damage. i dont like anticipating, or trying to guess when its coming.
Um...
Yeeesh. I guess you don't do much PvP then, eh? Anticipation (especially against spikes), is sort of the name of the game there. To use a common (and on topic example), 6 Rits just Wielder's Striked your teammate in Burial Mounds. I think anticipation, or even a catch spike (Infuse, Lod - both of which are Healing) is better in that circumstance, and for pvp in that regard, because pvp doesn't revolve around DPS, it revolves around damage spikes. samcobra
More like... zomg spirit rift... you see the giant ball of light float up, or you see the eurospike warrior teleport and you're like.. .omgwtf PROT!
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More like... zomg spirit rift... you see the giant ball of light float up, or you see the eurospike warrior teleport and you're like.. .omgwtf PROT!
AND THEN YOU GO LIKE OMFG SHIT SHATTER AND REND ENCHANTS LOL OWNED?
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I have big respect for rits (I am a healer/prot monk) and am allways interested to see the new builds that you guys think up. What happens if i pick rit as my secondary would I be able to use some of the tricks of the rit resotration trade to my advantage or is it only viable with superior runes only avaliable for the ritty?
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In all honesty, if your a monk, */Rt doesn't do much for you, since you have Divine Favour. You have everything you need within your line already. Most of the really good rit stuff requires spirits to get off the ground. as a monk you really shouldn't be bothering yourself with crap like that. Rit's come into their own as a mid-line who can support buff both the front and the rear, or spike the crap out of things, while healing at the same time. The one-dimensional but painfully necessary monk doesn't have to worry about stuff like that.
Besides, prot is far and away 10x better than heal. LoD/prot bars are pretty good in pve. Dwayna's/Gift (and obviously LoD) is usually all I need for healing, while I pack similar on a monk hero or usually I'm in a pug with a 'leet' monk healer anyways (LoD? looool. Noob monkage! Get a real elite like Zealous Benediction or Word of Healing _-_ . 30 minutes later... Wow decent monk! especially with such a shit bar ^_^). That's all you really need in pve, up until you get to nonsensical gimmicky areas like DoA/Urgoz/Deep etc., but that's another story... Age
I have played RestoRit. and sure Rits can heal but not as affective as even pure healing Monks.Monks can heal someone at 60% health or even 50% that is something a Rit. can't do sure they more efficient.They have to have 1sec casting spells and their shorter casting spells require an spirit be down or holding an item.
Darkpower Alchemist
It seems the usual suspects are all in this thread already, so I'll add to the pot. Monks and Rits have different jobs. As obvious as that statement sounds, it seems that all have seemed to throw that little bit of info out the window in some of your better arguments.
To put out individual skills and compare one to the other, or the healing prayers line to the restoration line, and to the protection line is fruitless dribble. The main point that one should argue is why would a rit want to be a monk? Why would you want to be the healer when the healer gets all the blame? Ritualists are natural support characters, and so are monks, but not in the exact same vein. A channeling/spirit spammer hybrid does alot more on a field,imo, than that same rit being a restoration rit in PvE. In PvP, the rit plays a similar role- not saying the rit isn't capable of being a healer, but it's just so much better at multitasking that it shouldn't jump into the healers only pool. Ritualists that provide damage buffs and spike attacks seem to be more useful in that capacity than them trying to do what the protection/LoD monk does well already. Rits as healers in a pinch is fine, but not as the pimary healer/protection caster. Maybe in the case of a 3rd healer, but not as the solo or secondary healer in a 1 monk team. Multitasking Rits FTW! ![]() Batou of Nine
Wow, old thread, what ressurected it?
Oh well i haven't given my 2 cents yet, let me fulfill my "i must be heard" impulse. LoL. In a 2 healer party. A resto rit can easily outheal a heal hench. Efficiency wise, they can easily fulfil as the secondary heal/support. Touching on the OP's original point, no i would NOT pick a healer hench over a rit healer. A human player, i would probably pick a monk over the rit, but in a pug situation its still a gamble, as actual heal potential comes down to the person's skill and knowledge of the roll. I can honestly say that myself and many others are probably 10x better restoration healers then half of all monks out there. And again that comes down to player skill. That said, i have enough knowledge of both classes to say that i cannot personally create a restoration rit build that could outheal any of my pure heal builds on my monk. Now that is in regards to only my personal skill with both professions. I bet there are some players out there that are better at ritualist build creation then i am and have a restoration build comparable to my best heal monk build. Yes, fundimentally, the class was NOT created with such a pure support focus as the monk was. The ritualist is kind of like the jack-of-all-trades for caster professions, can heal, support, dmg, etc. Back to the OP's thoughts, although i disagree with a few points (like, SpiritLight being the best heal in GW, or that a restoration build is flat out better then a heal build, or his build that includes channeling skills), i still think it was silly of a pug to pick a henchy over a human, especially one that could fulfill as the 2ndary healer. Yes, his build was shotty, so that doesn't really help support his claims... If GW:EN somehow introduces skills to better sustain a restoration healer, in terms of energy management, casting speed, and healing potentials, then Rits could possibly move into actual PvP healing, but i doubt this will happen. I'll end with this: No, a ritualist can never completely take over the roll as the primary healer in *PvP* as their skills are not designed for action that is that fast paced. However, in *PvE*, i believe they can easily fulfill the roll as secondary healer in any group, and be successful enough to be used in high pressure *PvE* situations. cheers. Fishmonger
Well, if the GW:EN skills are actually real on guildwiki, we (rits)don't have much hope. All of the restoration skills seem almost useless as far as I can see, but Energetic was Lee Wa looks good as long as it isn't elite
![]() Monks on the other hand seem to be gettin some fairly useful skills. Oh well, guess we'll see who wins when GW:EN comes out =D |