Concerns with registering for Return To Tyria Sweepstakes

Just Z

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Has anyone else looked at registering for the Return to Tyria Sweepstakes?
The prizes look great, but the registration form asks for an inordinate amount of
personal info. And, if you read the privacy policy, it pretty much says they can
do whatever they want to with your personal information. And if someone makes
a mistake and exposes your info or something, they're not liable.

I can see asking for an email address to register, then if you win, an address,
phone number, etc., but they are collecting physical addresses, phone numbers,
etc. from everyone who registers. That doesn't feel right. That's a lot of
personal information to be handing over just to enter a sweepstakes.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

holy moly you are right, I went and looked. FYI it's on the Guildwars.com home page.

Example questions include:

-what is your household income
-last level of education completed
-what is your present occupation

the answer to all these questions is of course, none of your bloody business

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

those are just typical customer demographic questions, they give you the option of clicking the x and not answering...

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

I hope you guys are kidding right?

Its a sweepstakes, many companies use it to put together surveys... it's not like you actually have to do anything to be eligible to win. You could also lie. Or not, or whatever. Say your an important doctor making 600,000 a year while still a student. Say you are from Kentucky. Basically the prizes are incentives to do the survey in the first place. If you don't feel comfortable with it, don't do it, its why they have the legal terms at the bottom to begin with...

I would say I am surprised that this was made into a thread, but honestly on GWG I wasn't.

Oh btw, if anyone wins the Alienware please tell me. I will be "visiting" you to "see how cool it is".

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

It's a typical contest entry form with demographic information included, option to decline answering these questions usually isn't included so that's a good sign. The information they are asking for is pretty standard and not unusual.

Aerian Skybane, please remember we have many international users who could be use to a much different standard with any type of contest. So your "surprise" over a thread like this is unwarranted.

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
It's a typical contest entry form with demographic information included, option to decline answering these questions usually isn't included so that's a good sign. The information they are asking for is pretty standard and not unusual.

Aerian Skybane, please remember we have many international users who could be use to a much different standard with any type of contest. So your "surprise" over a thread like this is unwarranted.
Well I wasn't surprised, I meant to give an ironic statement how I should have been but the general paranoia of these boards has jaded me.

And I was merely sardonically stating how it was working, not really trying to be [to] disrespectful.

I also figured they were american/canadian (who have similar things), since, well, if they were reading the rules and such, then they would have noticed that it is only valid in the US and Canada...

Lotrfish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

1337ville, California

Generic Name [Tag]

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Yeah, this stuff is asked for pretty much any survey. I don't have too much of a problem with it, but it would be very bad if this got into the wrong hands.

My biggest problem with the survey is they called the Nintendo DS, Gameboy DS.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

It's also US only I guess players from other regions don't get to go back to tyria after all. Shame Anet cant run these contests more in other regions. Yes we know the rules for prize draws are complicated , but hopefully a way will be found around it. Getting to the point where I don't often look what contests are being run anymore.

Just wondering, since Guru run similar contests and I've not seen US only restrictions there what the difference is.

At least I wont get privacy questions - lol

Geod

Geod

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

NoVA

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotrfish
Yeah, this stuff is asked for pretty much any survey. I don't have too much of a problem with it, but it would be very bad if this got into the wrong hands.

My biggest problem with the survey is they called the Nintendo DS, Gameboy DS.
Haha, I thought the same thing. I just put it down for "other."

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
It's also US only I guess players from other regions don't get to go back to tyria after all. Shame Anet cant run these contests more in other regions. Yes we know the rules for prize draws are complicated , but hopefully a way will be found around it. Getting to the point where I don't often look what contests are being run anymore.

Just wondering, since Guru run similar contests and I've not seen US only restrictions there what the difference is.

At least I wont get privacy questions - lol
Pfft Free mini-pet > AlienSpareParts

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

i dont see what the big deal is. its not like they ask for your social security number and bank accounts. People can find out your name and address through other means anyway. Everything else that is personal, you already answer when you apply for a job or other things.

Even if the information you give through this survey leaks to others, your identity won't be stolen.

GhostRaptor

GhostRaptor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Brighton, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
It's also US only I guess players from other regions don't get to go back to tyria after all. Shame Anet cant run these contests more in other regions. Yes we know the rules for prize draws are complicated , but hopefully a way will be found around it. Getting to the point where I don't often look what contests are being run anymore.

Just wondering, since Guru run similar contests and I've not seen US only restrictions there what the difference is.

At least I wont get privacy questions - lol
Pssst: news post specifically mentions that an announcement about an EU Sweepstakes is coming soon.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

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wtb Australian event. Minipets/Sweepstakes/Anything would be nice...

Just Z

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

I wasn't talking about the survey. That is not really traceable unless they are
capturing your ip. I was talking about the form. It's a lot of information to give
out. And, yeah, you do give your info out for a job, but that's different. You're
face to face with those folks, or you plan to be. This info will just be stored
somewhere and the privacy policy does not protect your privacy at all
if you read it. The fewer places your information is stored the less likely
you are to get your identity stolen. And for whoever said it won't happen,
yes, it does happen.

I'm just sayin', they don't need all that info just to enter a sweepstakes.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

These are the same questions that were used by the marketing company I used to work for.

Pull them in with a cool prize, ask for all this information and the sell the data on to whoever wants it.

Just be happy it doesn't ask if you're considering buying double glazing in the next 12 months.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

It says right on the top "Please use the X button to decline any questions." It looks like very few things asked are actually required. If you don't want to answer them, don't answer them.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clone
It says right on the top "Please use the X button to decline any questions." It looks like very few things asked are actually required. If you don't want to answer them, don't answer them.
There's the answer. It's completely your choice as to what or any answers you provide. Now, the marketing team would like to have the information, but it's not required to get the prizes. And I don't really see us selling this information to anyone. It may go to the NCsoft company, but in my view, I don't imagine it would go any further.

As to a European version of the contest, the team is putting the finishing touches on the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes and that should be rolling out quite soon. Take heart -- the prize list is really good, too!

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I just answered the questions. They didn't ask for my social security number so it was no problem. *lol* I filled out the entry form w/o even looking at the prize list. I don't know what I'd do if I won the graphics card. Maybe use it as a coaster.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
I don't know what I'd do if I won the graphics card. Maybe use it as a coaster.
IT boys everywhere are crying.

Seriously though, that's what that thing that pops out of your Tower is form... I think they call it the Computer Drinks tray, or something like that.

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

Meh, US only
But:
Quote:
In celebration of the second birthday of Guild Wars, and in anticipation of the release of Guild Wars: Eye of the North in the third quarter of this year, we have launched the "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes. The sweepstakes offers those in the US and Canada the chance to win one of many terrific prizes, with the announcement of a European sweepstakes following soon. Head here to enter, and good luck!
Sure hope so...

Jaher Dal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Santa Clara, Ca

Cobra Island

D/E

Well, you can decline to answer certain questions on there you know.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter
IT boys everywhere are crying.

Seriously though, that's what that thing that pops out of your Tower is form... I think they call it the Computer Drinks tray, or something like that.
I have an older dual Athlon motherboard - there is little I could do with the video card too. Not everyones computer can handle the the latest and greatest. I don;t think it even comes in an AGP version, let alone be anything useful to my old 2x AGP slot.

Though I would at least e-bay the thing, can't complain if I won the card for free

Big Suprise

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2007

is this for us/canada only? i cant find no aust province and stuff

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Uhm, yes, US and Canada only at the moment

Strcpy: you could always hold onto it, you'll probably upgrade eventually. Wouldn't it be nice to have a video card that you can actually use when that happens? I know i'm in the same boat, AGP slot, not PCI Express.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

No Europe? Bummer :'(

As fas as i'm concerned I'd sell the graphic card to someone; God knows when I'm gonna upgrade...

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

As to a European version of the contest, the team is putting the finishing touches on the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes and that should be rolling out quite soon. Take heart -- the prize list is really good, too!
As soon as the PvE only skills?

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
wtb Australian event. Minipets/Sweepstakes/Anything would be nice...
yeah that sucks... it's bad enough that ya'll are out in the middle of the ocean away from everyone, and have no fresh water...... to get screwed out of G.W. event's, must be like the final nail in the coffin. i hope this will help in a small way to build your spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-sMuURjAI

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
I just answered the questions. They didn't ask for my social security number so it was no problem.
Same. No biggie the way I looked at it, much for the same reasons, but darn, other people had the same outlook as me. I was hoping more might be turned away so my chances of winning were better. jk/jk

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
I don't know what I'd do if I won the graphics card. Maybe use it as a coaster.
Number one prize or BUST. I agree. lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
There's the answer. It's completely your choice as to what or any answers you provide. Now, the marketing team would like to have the information, but it's not required to get the prizes. And I don't really see us selling this information to anyone. It may go to the NCsoft company, but in my view, I don't imagine it would go any further.
Hey its Gaile! Hi Gaile. *waves*

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/



Database error whoopsie.

Ozric

Ozric

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Phoolz Like Us

E/Me

/signed-up

I'd be happy with any of those prizes!

*crosses fingers*

KingKryton

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

As to a European version of the contest, the team is putting the finishing touches on the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes and that should be rolling out quite soon. Take heart -- the prize list is really good, too!
does this include australia and new zealand. after all we play on the american servers. Or do we just get screwed over as usual?

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKryton
does this include australia and new zealand. after all we play on the american servers. Or do we just get screwed over as usual?
I do not know if Australia and/or New Zealand will be included. I know that the rules are being put together by NCsoft Europe, and I believe that they will be as inclusive as possible.

Lily Moore

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

montreal

[RiCE]

Mo/

Hmmm the Sweepstakes is suppose to be available to US and Canada but as I scroll down the list, I find out that my province (Quebec) wasnt in the list!!!! Why can't gamers like me from Quebec participate. Will we also have a seperate sweepstakes because I find this totally unfair! All the other provinces of Canada gets to participate except for Quebec... Is it because we speak french or something?

Aangy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Ethereal Guard

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily Moore
Hmmm the Sweepstakes is suppose to be available to US and Canada but as I scroll down the list, I find out that my province (Quebec) wasnt in the list!!!! Why can't gamers like me from Quebec participate. Will we also have a seperate sweepstakes because I find this totally unfair! All the other provinces of Canada gets to participate except for Quebec... Is it because we speak french or something?
Nah, it's stated in the rules...

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.guildwars.com/sweepstakes/rules.php
5. ELIGIBILITY: This sweepstakes is open only to legal residents of the 50 United States, the District of Columbia and Canada, 13 years of age or older at the time of entry. Void in Guam, Puerto Rico, U.S. territories, military installations and commonwealths, the Province of Quebec and where prohibited by law. Employees of ArenaNet, Inc., and anyone working on the product, project or promotion, their respective parents companies, subsidiaries, advertising and promotional agencies and the immediate family members (parents, spouse, siblings, children) or anyone who lives in the same household of each (whether related or not) are not eligible. Entrants agree to be bound by the terms of these Official Rules and by the decisions of the judges, which are final and binding on all matters pertaining to this promotion.

Just Z

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
There's the answer. It's completely your choice as to what or any answers you provide. Now, the marketing team would like to have the information, but it's not required to get the prizes. And I don't really see us selling this information to anyone. It may go to the NCsoft company, but in my view, I don't imagine it would go any further.

As to a European version of the contest, the team is putting the finishing touches on the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes and that should be rolling out quite soon. Take heart -- the prize list is really good, too!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaher Dal
Well, you can decline to answer certain questions on there you know.
Sorry, I haven't been on the last couple of days, and thanks, Gaile for responding, but you folk are still missing my point. I am not talking about the survey page. I am talking about the registration form itself. No, you cannot leave off any of the personal information it is asking for. It will not let you register if you don't give it your first name, last name, email address, street address, phone number, country, zip code, and birthdate.

Now, the point I'm trying to make here is that that is a lot of information just to enter a sweepstakes. An email address or a phone number or a street address might be ok, but not everything. Plus, if you read the privacy policy, it pretty much says "Yes, we are collecting all this info and we are not promising to keep it safe so if something happens, it's not our fault. Or,
if we decide to swap it off to some third party, we can."

I thought I had made myself clear twice, but you folk seem fixated on the
survey form which is irrelevant.

Inniss

Inniss

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Bendigo - Australia

Search For Gwen Foundation

E/Mo

Just checked the European Sweepstakes rules. Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom can enter. That's a pretty short list, even the Eurovision had more countries in it, so we Australians aren't the only ones who aren't going to be able to enter.

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I do not know if Australia and/or New Zealand will be included. I know that the rules are being put together by NCsoft Europe, and I believe that they will be as inclusive as possible.
Euro competition rules released.

Aussies and Kiwis screwed as usual.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

Didn't you already give this information when you made your Guild Wars account? It really isn't that bad, I trust ANet with my soul, well maybe...

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Lol just entered the European contest and im amazed at the little amount of info they asked, considering what the OP was talking about.Maybe i'm just lucky i'm in Europe

Good Luck to all who entered !!! ( or will enter )

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Z
Now, the point I'm trying to make here is that that is a lot of information just to enter a sweepstakes. An email address or a phone number or a street address might be ok, but not everything. Plus, if you read the privacy policy, it pretty much says "Yes, we are collecting all this info and we are not promising to keep it safe so if something happens, it's not our fault. Or, if we decide to swap it off to some third party, we can."
Just Z, this is normal information gathered for any sweepstakes. You have to realize that if they were only to ask for something such as a name & email it's very easy to lie/spoof or cheat the system. I understand the concerns that the information could be used for a 3rd party, but this could simply mean that Alienware or another of the sponsors will need your information to send you your prize. But the amount of information they are requiring is very typical and common. It's not something to be alarmed over if you've ever signed up for a contest they've required the same information.