Varesh is not amused...

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

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I think she's just a misunderstood gal, I like her.


Joko, this is a crop of the only part I like...

... and here's the rest of the crap that I didn't like. It was a whacky idea to begin with. It's suppose to be the final battle between Palawa Joko and Turai Ossa, you can flip it upside down and watch Turai go nuts with his axe. I'm also aware that there's probably too much crotch-shot from this perspective...


There you go, some random fan art. I know Joko's right arm looks a bit long, but my care department has been depleted, lol.

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

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Insane ... art skillz... perhaps joko could look a bit more upwards to face who hes fighting ... but jeez, this is awesome!

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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These are pretty epic.

Morag D

Morag D

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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HOLY SH**** omg /bow you are a god! no srsly, I love you(r art)

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

/faints

And I'm not an art fan.

Nian

Nian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Finland

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I love the Varesh art sooooo much. It's nice to see her in a different light, the fabric looks so deliciously thin good and muah...muchos loveos.<3

*worship*

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

yay you drew varesh while she was still hot, loves it

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

That...is...awsome!

I always loved varesh,and your picture is superb! I love it! Very well made,insane skills!

Well I guess Ill just have to sell my soul to the devil to learn how paint like that...

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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OMG! Saying your art is awesome doesn't do it justice. I don't think there's a way to describe your awesomeness.

Ok, since no one else has asked, I will.........are you taking commisions? If so, let me be the first to get in line.

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

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<---BLIND

geez my eyes just popped out of my eye sockets, and I can't find them, HELP!!!!!

dare I ask........ commissions? maybe, possible? just in case... around here, we jump on good artists........ you never know, they just might go for the commision, and so...... JUST in CASE.......

<--- I place my flag


Bounty: 50K for my eyes..... they are somewhere on my desk, I think

Foxeye

Foxeye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/A

Phenomenal...I've rarely seen such a fascinating "pretty lady" picture, and lemme tell you, I've seen more than my fill (hellooooo cgtalk and the vacant-faced-pretty-lady-with-bird-or-other-doodad-in-her-gracefully-limp-hands). You list guildwars.com as your home page, so I suspect you might be on their staff. Do you have a person art gallery online? My inner art-crow is craving more shinies to behold.

Gods that's gorgeous. Can't take my eyes off of her.

kenichiukiya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Ok everybody above has said what's on my mind so i dun hav to repeat.
Commissions pls?? i dun normally ask ppl for commission but for an art piece like this i'll have to place my flag if u do one. i'm gonna farm my ass off to try to pay u for the commission hahaha.....so.....know that i've placed my flag!!~

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

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Thanks guys, I think Varesh is teh seksy too, before she got all demonic...

I guess I can do commission, but I'm kinda clueless to how this whole-commission business goes. Can someone fill me in as to how it works? I know some screenshots would help, but this can be a nice practice for me. I also hope I don't have to do too many, because I also have work IRL

Thanks again for the comment guys.

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

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Comissions would be great, and I'm sure you'd get a lot of cash for drawings of that quality.

Nkah Sennyt

Nkah Sennyt

Awaken from hiatus.

Join Date: Apr 2006

Riding the spiral.

No Fun Allowed [Vdya]

Diablo, as far as commissions go, this is the basic process:

Artist makes thread.
Artists shows examples of their work.
Artists sets prices [ie, 10k half-body color, 20k full-body color].
Artist makes work/waiting-list.

Commissioner goes OMG GIMME with screenshots of what character they want drawn.
Artist does their work of the character.
Artist posts/emails finished piece to commissioner.
Commissioner meets artist in-game for payment.
Process complete.

Some artists prefer to recieve payment before handing over the piece - often sending the commissioner a watermarked piece to show that it's done. It's up to the artist. Phenomenal work, too - good luck if you start taking commissions, not that you'll need it!

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Guildless

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LOL thats a pretty good explanation above.........

BUT I disagree on pricing, that quality and detail of work is worth more....

I suggest you look around some of the threads......... but I would say 50K or more for a piece like that, for starters

Artists also decide how many commissions they will take, and keep a list on the original post, and edit it as they move along. Most allow a waiting list of X people, and as they finish commissions they move people up.

Most of them also work or go to school, or both, and some take a while to finish them, and thats prefectly ok.

I also hope that if you decide on doing commissions, that you maintain the requests that people here already posted (including myself) in the hopes that you would actually do commissions. Thats why we placed FLAGS and ran off to light candles and pray you would say YES

and now I'm adding screenies........

Now this would be my most favorite choice, since its my favorite toon......
but she's attached to her pet (prays I dont get a *I dont do pets* answer )





Buffalo




My second choice.... mmmmmmmm My ranger???
My 3rd choice..... mmmmmmmmmm My Ranger???

your pick?? hehe

no seriously, if pets are like a real issue I'll post other screenies.

I FEEEEEELLLLLL GOOD lalalalalala SO GOOD SO GOOD

I found my eyes btw

Foxeye

Foxeye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/A

One way to set the pricing would be to decide what you'd charge in real $$$ for someone commissioning a piece like that (how many hours, what your time is worth to you, etc), then find out how much in-game currency that would buy you. You may decide to charge less than that, of course, but it would give you a sense of what would feel fair to you.

Nkah Sennyt

Nkah Sennyt

Awaken from hiatus.

Join Date: Apr 2006

Riding the spiral.

No Fun Allowed [Vdya]

@ Dont Mess - I wasn't pricing her art, I was giving her examples of how pricing changes depending on what you want.

-Old 3FL-

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

W/

I like the varesh pic.
The joko one doesnt do it for me sorry.

Lilith St Cyr

Lilith St Cyr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

I'll post my interest here, for when you decide on yes/no

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

[RR]

Hmmz Interested in an art trade? (I know I know, you draw much better than I do, but I can do the very very best I can :P or pay some xtra ^^)

Rainbird

Rainbird

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Okay, I'd like you to draw my monk (if you decide to do comissions, your Varesh is absolutely astounding ^^)
Her name is Jin Fay, a beautiful and quiet girl. She can be a very passive group member from time to time, hence her favorit skills are bonding skills

Okay, what I'd like you to to find in her, is like... uhm.... Let the drawing show why monks have divine favor, let her shine out that... uhm... divine is what divine does (best phrase I could think of xD)
Basicly, put the "divine" in "monk"

I'll put some specifics on what kind of drawing I want according to what your pricing will be when you get that up (if you do (please? ^^))

greyf0x_f0x

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

Yet another astounding artist into the guru fold. First rate work, can't wait to see more!

Babaroga

Babaroga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Serbia

INSOMNIA [NIN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxeye
One way to set the pricing would be to decide what you'd charge in real $$$ for someone commissioning a piece like that (how many hours, what your time is worth to you, etc), then find out how much in-game currency that would buy you. You may decide to charge less than that, of course, but it would give you a sense of what would feel fair to you. Well, I must say that I don't agree with this statement. In RL most of designers charge their work much more than any of you guys would give ingame. If Im to say that, most of artist do more than one design for a certain client, and that they are charging both quantity and quality, it's just, something that can't be compared with fan-arting and digital money.
However for artwork of this quality, I would say, dude go with wathever price you want. But just set some minimum, and what you offer with that minimum.
Browse other threads and check, how much others are charging, compare your skills against theirs and set a price.
It's easy as that. Basicly good art would have tocost extra, so... it's up to you.

Now, very nice images! But I just think that Varesh would be foxy as hell if you would erase her eye pupils glow and leave only that black deep staring eyes, with kind of vile sexy look.
And as far as anatomy goes, I mean who really gives a shit?! Some of the best art Ive ever seen are soooo way off the "normal" anathomy, and still they look much better that way.
Anyhow, cheers, and go get fking rich doing commissions here!

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

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I know one thing for sure, if you'd make me a commission on that quality, I'd farm over 200k to get it ^^. It's just that I'm low on money ^^. Prices for good artists can go really high, its just the amount of customers you want to get and the amount of time u want to put into it. If you ask a high price and you plan on working long on an image, you will not have a huuge waiting list, but will most certainly be busy with a commission at all times. Though it may take a week or so before you get your first customer.
I think it won't be that hard to find someone to pay you 500k for a commission of the same quality as the varesh. They just need a bit of time to gather the 500k ^^.

Really if you plan on doing commissions that are this awesome, you should look for high prices. Game money will never be worth as much as real money, but the good thing of these is that you can sell them ingame yet still have the picture yourself ^^.

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nkah Sennyt
@ Dont Mess - I wasn't pricing her art, I was giving her examples of how pricing changes depending on what you want.
I know you weren't pricing his art, and just giving an example, it just seemed like a *low* example, and he's soooo good and I would love a commission sooo bad, that I didn't want him to think "30K... oh no, ummm naw I don't want to do commissions" 'cause then I would've been for 2 weeks !!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxeye
One way to set the pricing would be to decide what you'd charge in real $$$ for someone commissioning a piece like that (how many hours, what your time is worth to you, etc), then find out how much in-game currency that would buy you. You may decide to charge less than that, of course, but it would give you a sense of what would feel fair to you. Well, I'm not sure I agree with that either. For one, if he bases it on what GW gold is sold for........ let's just say that Varesh, Real Life $50 (probably a lot more) would be an average of 400K -based on places that sell gold the cheapest (google GW gold). I don't think there are artists out here on these forums asking for that much. Also, most players would have a hard time coming up with those huge amounts of gold, and there is no way in hell I would risk getting my account banned for buying online gold.

There are some amazingly talented artists here, like Blackgate ( and I mention him because he is one of the latest artists to post)... he first started with 100K, which doesn't seem outrageous given the quality, but it's just hard to come up with those amounts. He lowered to 60K and the commission requests started pouring in; Babaroga... you can't get much more talented than that, yet his prices are just CHEAP. I keep telling him to push em up a notch.

There are many more artists, very talented ones, that have been posting for much longer, and if I start naming, I'll never end So I will just use the last 2 to share their work as examples.

I have zero talent for drawing, and quite often it bugs me when people feel either the artists charge too much, or they go back on their agreement after the picture is done, or they insinuate if the prices are brought down then I'll order because I'm poor.... and I have spoken about it. It takes TIME to draw, and the least that we can do IF we want to have a piece of their talent, is pay a fair price. I don't think to this day I have paid the *agreed* price for any commission, but always more, specially with the artists that I think need to charge more (*coughs* RAVENSONG *coughs*)

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

I'd like to reserve a spot just to see her price. I am still in a rut in terms of cash, so I'd like to see her set a price first.

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Babaroga
And as far as anatomy goes, I mean who really gives a shit?! Some of the best art Ive ever seen are soooo way off the "normal" anathomy, and still they look much better that way. I love the perspective and the proportions you did on Palawa Joko, and as Babaroga said the anatomy really doesnt matter, in fact it gives the picture special artistic charm....I love it!

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistical miss
Though it may take a week or so before you get your first customer.
I was the 9th poster but the first to ask about a commision about 2 hours after s/he first posted, so I hope the order will be kept. It's also the first time that I was first in asking!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistical miss
Really if you plan on doing commissions that are this awesome, you should look for high prices. Game money will never be worth as much as real money, but the good thing of these is that you can sell them ingame yet still have the picture yourself ^^. Exactly! These pictures will make a very awesome portfolio.

Morag D

Morag D

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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damn, I don't think I'd be able to afford a commission here, assuming these will be (and rightly so) high-end work and price I think I have two options: starting to waylay ppl in GW to rob them of their money or learn how to do this myself... whatever's easier

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

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Wow! So much requests!! I don't even know if I can get to them all, but I definitely will try (I'm already starting on your's Ryker, cuz Picard says you're "number 1" lol, engage!).

It seems like the price of it is the issue here...but in all honesty, I might just do it for free, otherwise I'll feel like I'm being hassled to reach a deadline... and this little hobby will just turn into another "job". I usually like to take time with my drawings (the Varesh pic took weeks), and usually they're just sketchy quality, the Varesh one just happened to come out kinda nice.

Tips are always appreciated of course, but there is very few things I actually want in-game. Maybe a miniture Gwen, but that is just an insane price to ask of you guys. Other than that, I'm just working on my PKM title, and I don't think gold can solve that problem. I suppose any offer will be just fine.

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Well in that case time to get my Healbot's first commission. I need to prep a profile of her though so I should have that up by tomroow. Have fun Diablo~

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

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If you'll be doing them for free I'm gonna jump in line here myself. I'll post pictures later when I'm less lazy, but yeah. Time is not a factor for me. Take all the time you need.

*EDIT* Posting pics and stuff...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1826/gw317rg9.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2946/gw326mb8.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6558/gw327wt3.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1875/gw328uf7.jpg

So yeah... the staff she carries is the willcrusher. you can use that if you wish and any post you can think of. Naughty or not.

Of course thats if you're not charging money for it, otherwise just ignore this post.

Noanoa

Noanoa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

I Need Scissors [Aivo]

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Art trades?

I must say I was totally "o_O!!" when I first saw your works, and even that happened after I heard Nian gasping and I came over to take a look . Awesome technique and use of perspective and lighting.

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

[RR]

Miniature gwen eh? What are they going for today?? :P

I wish I had your devotion to work on an artpiece for weeks..

Mike_version2

Mike_version2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

holy crap, those are amazing

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
Wow! So much requests!! I don't even know if I can get to them all, but I definitely will try (I'm already starting on your's Ryker, cuz Picard says you're "number 1" lol, engage!).

It seems like the price of it is the issue here...but in all honesty, I might just do it for free, otherwise I'll feel like I'm being hassled to reach a deadline... and this little hobby will just turn into another "job". I usually like to take time with my drawings (the Varesh pic took weeks), and usually they're just sketchy quality, the Varesh one just happened to come out kinda nice.

Tips are always appreciated of course, but there is very few things I actually want in-game. Maybe a miniture Gwen, but that is just an insane price to ask of you guys. Other than that, I'm just working on my PKM title, and I don't think gold can solve that problem. I suppose any offer will be just fine. Wow, thanks, really. You certainly won't be working for free for me. One thing tho, my ranger you'll be drawing is Christopher Snow Sr with his loyal lynx, Orson. Commander Ryker is my ele. Ryker was the first one I made and I hold a fondness for him, but Christopher is my favorite to play, so that's why I have had him in all pics drawn.

My 2 cents:I think it would be just wrong if someone commissions a drawing and doesn't pay for it. If anyone does get one and doesn't pay, well, I'm just going to quote Gomer Pyle here and say, "shame, shame, shame".

Another quote from the same source (it doesn't apply, I just thought it was just funny): Sgt Carter: Pyle, my old grandmother could do better then that. Gomer:Well bless her heart.