If you purchase your lockpicks from a Discount Merchant, the base price of lockpicks goes down to 1200g per key, resulting in a substantial lowering of survival chance needed to break even. Discounted lockpicks will have a better value than discounted keys only if the regular priced lockpick had a better value than the regular priced key. -wiki-
Someone plz awnser this for me, Are Full price lockpicks better at retaining than Discounted?
thnx in adv
Lockpicks -Which one is better ?
Wrath of m0o
Bane of Worlds
They have the same survival chance. Maybe the wiki descriptions needs changing...
same chance and a lower value that gets you closer to breaking even
same chance and a lower value that gets you closer to breaking even
scrinner
It means that since the lockpick is cheaper, The less money you lose and the more chance of you not losing any money.
Raaaaa
I think that just describes the fact that in the long run you will save considerably more money.
So the money spent to lock pick retaintion ratio.
So the money spent to lock pick retaintion ratio.
Wrath of m0o
resulting in a substantial lowering of survival chance needed to break even.
GreatLich
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resulting in a substantial lowering of survival chance needed to break even.
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Stop quoting that. You obviously don't even understand what your own post means if you keep asking "which is better?"
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Originally Posted by GreatLich
Reading comprehension ftw!
try reading it like this: resulting in a substantial lowering of [the] survival chance [that you] need(ed) [in order] to break even(<- expression that means getting the money back you spend, so there's no loss.) |
Wrath of m0o
Im sorry, i thought the price of the lockpick had to do with the equasion to decide weather the lockpick broke or not.
Well, im giving up on lockpicks altogether, as well as keys, imo they arent worth what's inside the chest anyway, and with max Lucky points, and max Treasure hunter, your still looking at a 43% (33+10) to not break the lock pick. So, i spent 50-75k to get lucky title, wich changed my 10% chance to retain a lockpick into 12%.(Hard mode chest)
And thank you for finally making me understand what that statement meant, it has been bothering me all weekend, i thank you and apreciate your critizm.
Well, im giving up on lockpicks altogether, as well as keys, imo they arent worth what's inside the chest anyway, and with max Lucky points, and max Treasure hunter, your still looking at a 43% (33+10) to not break the lock pick. So, i spent 50-75k to get lucky title, wich changed my 10% chance to retain a lockpick into 12%.(Hard mode chest)
And thank you for finally making me understand what that statement meant, it has been bothering me all weekend, i thank you and apreciate your critizm.
Sophitia Leafblade
Discount Merchant?? im confused i know ive been missing from gw for a few weeks waiting for my new Pc but i havnt seen any mention of new npcs in the updates?
Yol
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Discount Merchant??
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Sophitia Leafblade
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Originally Posted by Yol
In Factions, if your Alliance controls a town, you get access to a discounted merchant in the private members area of the outpost.
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Coridan
but if you look at it as spending 50-75k working on 3 title.....possible 4.....
Lucky
Unlucky
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom Title
its not a bad investment....you probably would have spent 30k just getting Lucky title playing in one of the rings see below
Lucky Nine Rings Rings of Fortune
Charmed
50,000 tickets 5,294 games 44.1K 26,667 games 50.0K
So if you bought say 60k worth of 1200g Lock Picks
you bought 50 keys
which is half way to Treasure hunter title with absolutely not retention of any lock picks...which you obviously had some...so if you look at it like that
it only cost 16K to get half-way thru the Treasure Title Tier 1
and 44k to get first lvl of Lucky....and probably work towards the other 2 i mentioned as well.
Lucky
Unlucky
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom Title
its not a bad investment....you probably would have spent 30k just getting Lucky title playing in one of the rings see below
Lucky Nine Rings Rings of Fortune
Charmed
50,000 tickets 5,294 games 44.1K 26,667 games 50.0K
So if you bought say 60k worth of 1200g Lock Picks
you bought 50 keys
which is half way to Treasure hunter title with absolutely not retention of any lock picks...which you obviously had some...so if you look at it like that
it only cost 16K to get half-way thru the Treasure Title Tier 1
and 44k to get first lvl of Lucky....and probably work towards the other 2 i mentioned as well.
SotiCoto
I don't even know why the sweet hell they get discount merchants anyway.
Why should guilds dedicated primarily to PvP (okok, or the occasional FFF) be rewarded with cheaper PvE goods? It is thoroughly retarded.
Why should guilds dedicated primarily to PvP (okok, or the occasional FFF) be rewarded with cheaper PvE goods? It is thoroughly retarded.
lakatz
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If you purchase your lockpicks from a Discount Merchant, the base price of lockpicks goes down to 1200g per key, resulting in a substantial lowering of survival chance needed to break even. Discounted lockpicks will have a better value than discounted keys only if the regular priced lockpick had a better value than the regular priced key. -wiki-
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The answer to your question is, "NO."
His point in that passage is about calculating which is a better choice to use on a chest in Normal Mode, a lockpick or a key. His comment about the discounted lockpick vs the regular priced lockpick was peripheral information.
Lydz
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I don't even know why the sweet hell they get discount merchants anyway.
Why should guilds dedicated primarily to PvP (okok, or the occasional FFF) be rewarded with cheaper PvE goods? It is thoroughly retarded. |
Coridan
I belong to an alliance that runs a town....the saving is pitiful for the amount of work it takes to control one...not only that but you have to "map" back to that town to purchase the discounted items..unless i am buying something in bulk....i don't bother with the discount merchant...as far as i am concerned the only thing worth purchasing from them is keys.
Enko
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With all due respect to the authors of the wiki and their huge contribution to the GW community, some of them just don't have that easy a time writing English. I read a sentence the other day on the wiki that was grammatically incorrect to the point of being incomprehensible, and this passage comes close to that point. But, although the writer wasn't that articulate in making his point, I can still tell what it is. And...
The answer to your question is, "NO." His point in that passage is about calculating which is a better choice to use on a chest in Normal Mode, a lockpick or a key. His comment about the discounted lockpick vs the regular priced lockpick was peripheral information. |