Non-Fleshy Monsters - how do I hit them HARD?
bjmichaudphd
Non-bleeding monsters such as:
Stone Elementals (Mesa, Crag, etc)
Skeletons
What weapon hits them hard (sure not my sword!!!)?
What are some good builds for using the best weapons on them?
Thank you.
Stone Elementals (Mesa, Crag, etc)
Skeletons
What weapon hits them hard (sure not my sword!!!)?
What are some good builds for using the best weapons on them?
Thank you.
Marty Silverblade
Don't Sever-Gash them. That's it really. Sword is fine as long as you stay away from Bleeding (Dragon Slash is always a good option). Axe is good, as you have Eviscerate and Triple Chop, which are both really good elites. Hammer usually isn't the best/preferred option in PvE, although basically any decent build will do well against them.
[card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Standing Slash[/card][card]Galrath Slash[/card][card]Silverwing Slash[/card][card]Dragon Slash[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
[card]Triple Chop[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Dismember[/card][card]Penetrating Blow[/card][card]Penetrating Chop[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
Meh, both are cookie-cutter builds, but don't underestimate them. You can modify them in almost any way you want, as long as you don't do anything stupid like use Healing Prayers.
[card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Standing Slash[/card][card]Galrath Slash[/card][card]Silverwing Slash[/card][card]Dragon Slash[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
[card]Triple Chop[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Dismember[/card][card]Penetrating Blow[/card][card]Penetrating Chop[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
Meh, both are cookie-cutter builds, but don't underestimate them. You can modify them in almost any way you want, as long as you don't do anything stupid like use Healing Prayers.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
as long as you don't do anything stupid like use Healing Prayers.
QFT!
yeah, for non-fleshies... which seem to have pretty decent armour... Try and get as many attack skills in on them. +dmg bypasses armour. If you really need to Deep Wound 'em, use an axe.
yeah, for non-fleshies... which seem to have pretty decent armour... Try and get as many attack skills in on them. +dmg bypasses armour. If you really need to Deep Wound 'em, use an axe.
skydrake
I am using [skill]Barbarous Slice[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill] (only have nightfall)
Even if I met non-fleshy enemies, I just do the above combination. Eventhough the bleeding and deep wound won't trigger, the + damage do.
Btw, how to embed those pretty skill icons ?
*edit* added pretty skill icons
Thanks Stormlord !!
Even if I met non-fleshy enemies, I just do the above combination. Eventhough the bleeding and deep wound won't trigger, the + damage do.
Btw, how to embed those pretty skill icons ?
*edit* added pretty skill icons
Thanks Stormlord !!
Stormlord Alex
Sod it, just quote me and check
[skill]gash[/skill]
[skill]gash[/skill]
RoadKill97
Marty, you have too many attacks and too little adrenaline gain. Try these: [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
phool
[skill]Devastating Hammer[/skill][skill]Crushing Blow[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Heavy Blow[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
12+2+1 hammer 12+1 strength
[skill]Triple Chop[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Penetrating Blow[/skill][skill]Penetrating Chop[/skill][skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill]
12+2+1 axe 11+2 tactics 6+1 strength
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Power Attack[/skill][skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
12+3+1 sword 12+1 strength
use zealous with the second two, or for the second replace PA with s+m and take a conjure (elemental) or orders (furious).
And since you mention undead... gotta love [skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill].
My pve builds tend to assume I have competent monks, i.e. heroes not pugs
12+2+1 hammer 12+1 strength
[skill]Triple Chop[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Penetrating Blow[/skill][skill]Penetrating Chop[/skill][skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill]
12+2+1 axe 11+2 tactics 6+1 strength
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Power Attack[/skill][skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
12+3+1 sword 12+1 strength
use zealous with the second two, or for the second replace PA with s+m and take a conjure (elemental) or orders (furious).
And since you mention undead... gotta love [skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill].
My pve builds tend to assume I have competent monks, i.e. heroes not pugs
clawofcrimson
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
If you really need to Deep Wound 'em, use an axe.
...or just take the right skills
[card]galrath slash[/card] [card]dragon slash[/card] [card]"go for the eyes!"[/card] [card]"find their weakness!"[/card] [card]enraging charge[/card] [card]flail[/card] [card]healing signet[/card] [card]signet of return[/card]
11 +1+3 swords
10 +1 tactics
8 command
6 +1 str
I have found this to be very effective for the sword users. GFTE and FTW can be considered attack skills. (GFTE will almost guarentee the next attack to be +20 ish, and FTW can be like dismember)
Also make sure you are switching to the proper hilt for the right enemies...(IE ...use elemental on the Jade armors... etc..)
[card]galrath slash[/card] [card]dragon slash[/card] [card]"go for the eyes!"[/card] [card]"find their weakness!"[/card] [card]enraging charge[/card] [card]flail[/card] [card]healing signet[/card] [card]signet of return[/card]
11 +1+3 swords
10 +1 tactics
8 command
6 +1 str
I have found this to be very effective for the sword users. GFTE and FTW can be considered attack skills. (GFTE will almost guarentee the next attack to be +20 ish, and FTW can be like dismember)
Also make sure you are switching to the proper hilt for the right enemies...(IE ...use elemental on the Jade armors... etc..)
Cathode_Reborn
[skill]Forceful Blow[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Heavy Blow[/skill][skill]Crushing Blow[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
That's the only hammer elite I'll ever use in pve, but it's a good one. Low cost and causes weakness to use with other skills. It's easy to start the combo since your highest adren skill only costs 6. Lack of shield shouldn't be a problem if the monks on your team are decent.
If you really wanna get out as much damage as you can, some enemies have weakness against certain types of damage.
That's the only hammer elite I'll ever use in pve, but it's a good one. Low cost and causes weakness to use with other skills. It's easy to start the combo since your highest adren skill only costs 6. Lack of shield shouldn't be a problem if the monks on your team are decent.
If you really wanna get out as much damage as you can, some enemies have weakness against certain types of damage.
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by RoadKill97
Marty, you have too many attacks and too little adrenaline gain. Try these: [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill]
Dragon Slash IS adrenaline gain, and Triple Chop gives a nice boost with grouped monsters. With PvE being relatively easy atm (in easy mode anyway), it's fine to run 5 attacks and beat the hell out of everything. Trust me, 3 Grandmaster Cartographer titles and 3 Protector titles (working on hard mode atm), I know what I'm talking about.
Also, remember how at the end of my post I mentioned that you can modify them in almost any way you want? If you don't like 5 attacks, ditch one. I often find myself dropping one for an appropriate Conjure element spell. But meh, whatever floats your boat.
Also, remember how at the end of my post I mentioned that you can modify them in almost any way you want? If you don't like 5 attacks, ditch one. I often find myself dropping one for an appropriate Conjure element spell. But meh, whatever floats your boat.
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Sword:
[skill]"For great justice!"[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]standing slash[/skill][skill]silverwing slash[/skill][skill]sun and moon slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Axe:
[skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]penetrating blow[/skill][skill]disrupting chop[/skill][skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]critical chop[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Hammer:
[skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]backbreaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]belly smash[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Those builds all hit hard
[skill]"For great justice!"[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]standing slash[/skill][skill]silverwing slash[/skill][skill]sun and moon slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Axe:
[skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]penetrating blow[/skill][skill]disrupting chop[/skill][skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]critical chop[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Hammer:
[skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]backbreaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]belly smash[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Those builds all hit hard
A Leprechaun
[skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill] [skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill] [skill]Galrath Slash[/skill] [skill]Silverwing Slash[/skill] [skill]Standing Slash[/skill] [skill]Final Thrust[/skill] [skill]Flail[/skill] [skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
15 - Strength
15 - Swords
An alternative to the dragon slash build, I perfer this one, I churns out high dmg skills and is easy to use.
~A Leprechaun~
15 - Strength
15 - Swords
An alternative to the dragon slash build, I perfer this one, I churns out high dmg skills and is easy to use.
~A Leprechaun~
RoadKill97
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Every extra attack you take reduces the effectiveness of all your attacks by a little, which is one of the reasons why it is better to go with - lets say - three attacks, including Dragon Slash, Conjure of your choice, the adrenaline gain skills I mentioned before, and Flail. That is if you want the best DPS and a fully offensive build (otherwise I would include one or two of the following utility: Distracting Blow, "Watch Yourself!", Rending Touch, or Wild Blow).
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And then there are players who get overly defensive when criticized, repeat their mistakes, some may call others by names, and some may list stuff they have done or possess in effort to make them look superior.
In which group you want to be?
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Yes, but it doesn't matter much if you don't have a 100% efficient build, which was my pointwith this statement.
Also, remember how at the end of my post I mentioned that you can modify them in almost any way you want? If you don't like 5 attacks, ditch one. I often find myself dropping one for an appropriate Conjure element spell. But meh, whatever floats your boat.
Saying "you can modify these if you want" is pretty often used defense, so the speaker (or the writer in this case) wouldn't get flamed. However, I wasn't flaming you, I gave you a little suggestion. I don't in all honesty believe it's difficult to go test if some skills would improve the build or not - I do that all the time. However, if you're not interested to improve or even test something, then that's fine. No one is forcing you to change your build, and I won't lose my sleep if someone is running an inferior build on a purpose. The reason I posted my suggestion above is that I've seen you post builds before, and because I thought you will probably do so in the future, too, it might be a good idea to perfect those builds. I didn't go to much detail in my previous post because I believed that you're a smart player, and you could see the obvious advantage of adrenalige gain over extra attacks if you just could go test stuff yourself. Marty Silverblade
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Quote: Originally Posted by RoadKill97 Every extra attack you take reduces the effectiveness of all your attacks by a little, which is one of the reasons why it is better to go with - lets say - three attacks, including Dragon Slash, Conjure of your choice, the adrenaline gain skills I mentioned before, and Flail. That is if you want the best DPS and a fully offensive build (otherwise I would include one or two of the following utility: Distracting Blow, "Watch Yourself!", Rending Touch, or Wild Blow). Meh, once again, it comes down to fun for me. Sometimes I get tempted to run a full, 8 adrenaline skill bar. There's no way in hell running 7 attacks + Flail (which I find fun), is the 1337est build out there, but it's great to watch. Same thing with utility; I'll only run it when I need to, not in normal PvE. I interrupted an action... wow (/sarcasm). I'd rather see some nice high, yellow numbers tbh.
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There are players who can take advice, learn from mistakes, and generally try to improve their skill and knowledge by trying different builds and tactics to see what works best.
And then there are players who get overly defensive when criticized, repeat their mistakes, some may call others by names, and some may list stuff they have done or possess in effort to make them look superior.
In which group you want to be? I'm in the first, and have been for a long time now. I posted the cookie-cutter builds for him to run with, but it's not necessarily what I run (though similar, it isn't). I actually enjoy playing with lesser used elites, and I was quite amused the other day when someone came up with the idea of using Battle Rage instead of Dragon Slash to pump out Deep Wounds quickly. I still haven't tried it yet, as I said I would, because of essays and crap for school, but meh, I'll take it out now .
And then there are players who get overly defensive when criticized, repeat their mistakes, some may call others by names, and some may list stuff they have done or possess in effort to make them look superior.
In which group you want to be? I'm in the first, and have been for a long time now. I posted the cookie-cutter builds for him to run with, but it's not necessarily what I run (though similar, it isn't). I actually enjoy playing with lesser used elites, and I was quite amused the other day when someone came up with the idea of using Battle Rage instead of Dragon Slash to pump out Deep Wounds quickly. I still haven't tried it yet, as I said I would, because of essays and crap for school, but meh, I'll take it out now .
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