So, after GW:EN all your characters die...
Mournblade
Death cannot be tricked by cupcakes, mortal!
L|S >+>+G+<+<
This thread is just weird.......
Operative 14
don't forget morbid as heck 
BenjZee
the end of GW:EN goes something like this shhhh this is just between you and me 
you kill nasty beasty then you have become like a legend. You would eventually die from old age. resserecting would be pointless as you would die fairly soon after. It would be more peaceful just to die.
Or i recon you sacrifice your life to kill something at the end; i actualyl think you kill yourself in order to create the Sylvari which stops the nasty beasty thats my little story anyway.
i wanna know how an asura is going to inherit my monks stuff ..... how is he related...dont say over the years there was inter species relationships. A drunken night drinking Dwarven ale when you meet an asura...enough said.
That asura has baby and has to bring it up by themselves because you died at war...
you kill nasty beasty then you have become like a legend. You would eventually die from old age. resserecting would be pointless as you would die fairly soon after. It would be more peaceful just to die.
Or i recon you sacrifice your life to kill something at the end; i actualyl think you kill yourself in order to create the Sylvari which stops the nasty beasty
thats my little story anyway.i wanna know how an asura is going to inherit my monks stuff ..... how is he related...dont say over the years there was inter species relationships. A drunken night drinking Dwarven ale when you meet an asura...enough said.
That asura has baby and has to bring it up by themselves because you died at war...
Supra4545
Will there be a way to communicate with your old friends from GW1? or Vise-Versa?
1 up and 2 down
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My character looks forward to death if only to become a ghost that can haunt her ancestors and pester them incessently about how much better things were in her day and to sit up straight, comb your hair and brush your teeth.
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Everyone will turn into a ghost and haunt their ancestors!
dead derv
well they might make something where the gods want us to save the mist the we then we say no becauss we are dead
Daggrs And All
I think there just making GW2 to give the people that werent there wen GW first came out....i mean they already have a great game...y make another? I think its to help the others who wherent there wen GW came out...so they can pack there storage like people did wen GW came out
Onarik Amrak
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quoted for truth.
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KalleDamos
The reason all those ressurcts work is because the gods allow them to. They know its not your hero's time so they let them be ressed, and put their spirt back in their body. When it is finally their time, the gods would take the spirt and usher it into the mists before it could be retruned to its body.
Snow Bunny
Your characters never die....they just become NPC's. Like my aborted lvl 1 Ele...who never got past the Town Crier's first quest in Pre. He was re-incarnated as Castellan Puuba in NF.
Gwen is the best example of this ever. After dissapearing mysteriously from Ascalon, she underwent extensive reconstructive/transgender surgery and facial mapping and is now famous as the great Brawler Henchman Little Thom.
Gwen is the best example of this ever. After dissapearing mysteriously from Ascalon, she underwent extensive reconstructive/transgender surgery and facial mapping and is now famous as the great Brawler Henchman Little Thom.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Your characters never die....they just become NPC's. Like my aborted lvl 1 Ele...who never got past the Town Crier's first quest in Pre. He was re-incarnated as Castellan Puuba in NF.
Gwen is the best example of this ever. After dissapearing mysteriously from Ascalon, she underwent extensive reconstructive/transgender surgery and facial mapping and is now famous as the great Brawler Henchman Little Thom. |
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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
I think you mean descendants.
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No the dwarves will kidnap us and kill us on the bloodstones so our souls can't return to our bodies.
Some Guru Named Kai
At the end of GW:EN, Gwen will probably lead us into a forest full of auto-respawning [skill]frozen soil[/skill], then smite us all with her [skill]hamstring[/skill] [skill]fire storm[/skill].
angmar_nite
argghhh HAMSTORM!!!!!!!!What a crapy way to die. Good thing we have restoration!
Eldin
In Factions at the end of Vizunah Square, Shiro kills the entire party with SUPER-AIDS (it's airborne and it kills within 5 miliseconds). The Envoys say that it is not our time yet.
Perhaps judge is right - Grenth is like "Eww no way! Once you get into the Hall of Heroes you're just going to farm everything to extinction. You can forget it!"
...but then eventually, we will all be hundreds of years old, and Grenth will be driven crazy as other people ask if they can live for centuries.
...then he kills us...then five minutes later, GW2 starts.
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The degeneration idea is nice too. I can imagine in my later years running around with "-50 (Natural Aging)" popping out of my character.
Perhaps judge is right - Grenth is like "Eww no way! Once you get into the Hall of Heroes you're just going to farm everything to extinction. You can forget it!"
...but then eventually, we will all be hundreds of years old, and Grenth will be driven crazy as other people ask if they can live for centuries.
...then he kills us...then five minutes later, GW2 starts.
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The degeneration idea is nice too. I can imagine in my later years running around with "-50 (Natural Aging)" popping out of my character.
Conjur me
Even if we could keep rezzing till GW2, would you want a hundred year old body? :P
draxynnic
Personally, my opinion on ressurection is this:
1) The target has to be Chosen. This is why, for instance, allied soldiers can't be ressed - they aren't Chosen.
2) The target's body and soul has to be strong enough. In the case of Rurik and Althea, it's the body that is no longer suitable to be a receptacle for life (Rurik's is a skeleton, Althea's is ashes). In the case of Togo and others who have been harvested for their life energy, it's because their soul is no longer strong enough to return. (This might be the reason why PCs slain on the Bloodstone can come back, even if it is harder - because they just happened to die there rather than being ritually slain to fuel the Bloodstone.)
Old age is something I hadn't considered, but I expect while it does mean someone can live for longer (since there's magic to deal with the diseases associated with dying - in some cases you may even be able to perform postmortem surgery and then resurrect the patient...) my suspicion is that ageing still occurs and cannot be stopped by any known magic. So eventually the body just gets too old to sustain life any longer.
On the passing down of a legacy - I suspect it doesn't need to be a direct ancestor. In the case of other races, it could be a case that somewhere between your GW1 character and your GW2 character there was a character adopted by one family to another, or your GW1 character or one of their descendants died childless and passed their legacy on to a friend or student of another race, they could be founding members of a (mini-)guild that survives over the centuries and comes to accept nonhuman members, or some other means for your GW1 character(s) or their descendants to be part of the family history without actually being biologically related.
1) The target has to be Chosen. This is why, for instance, allied soldiers can't be ressed - they aren't Chosen.
2) The target's body and soul has to be strong enough. In the case of Rurik and Althea, it's the body that is no longer suitable to be a receptacle for life (Rurik's is a skeleton, Althea's is ashes). In the case of Togo and others who have been harvested for their life energy, it's because their soul is no longer strong enough to return. (This might be the reason why PCs slain on the Bloodstone can come back, even if it is harder - because they just happened to die there rather than being ritually slain to fuel the Bloodstone.)
Old age is something I hadn't considered, but I expect while it does mean someone can live for longer (since there's magic to deal with the diseases associated with dying - in some cases you may even be able to perform postmortem surgery and then resurrect the patient...) my suspicion is that ageing still occurs and cannot be stopped by any known magic. So eventually the body just gets too old to sustain life any longer.
On the passing down of a legacy - I suspect it doesn't need to be a direct ancestor. In the case of other races, it could be a case that somewhere between your GW1 character and your GW2 character there was a character adopted by one family to another, or your GW1 character or one of their descendants died childless and passed their legacy on to a friend or student of another race, they could be founding members of a (mini-)guild that survives over the centuries and comes to accept nonhuman members, or some other means for your GW1 character(s) or their descendants to be part of the family history without actually being biologically related.
A11Eur0
Rurik, the chosen on the bloodstone...probably because they were beheaded. They didn't show this, but an axe to the northern area of the body...yeah. They can't be rezzed although they're chosen because their heads aren't attached to their bodies anymore. There's no beheading skill for warriors, is there? That and it's always instant death...Rurik was taking hits from the Stone Summit for quite some time before being hit with the avalanche..he had plenty of time for his health to regen (probably like 7 pips) before Dagnar Stonepate takes one swing at his head and it goes dark.
Everything but amputation can be healed...but you can't make someone grow back bodyparts, especially their head.
I don't think there would be some cataclysmic event that kills off characters...that may and probably will kill the game...Anet won't do that when the franchise is still only 3-4 years old. The characters will live on and do more stuff. The stuff that already happened (everything up to GW:EN) will probably be documented and will have some kind of tribute in GW2, and all future GW1 expansions will have their details chronicled and referenced in future expansions of GW2.
Everything but amputation can be healed...but you can't make someone grow back bodyparts, especially their head.
I don't think there would be some cataclysmic event that kills off characters...that may and probably will kill the game...Anet won't do that when the franchise is still only 3-4 years old. The characters will live on and do more stuff. The stuff that already happened (everything up to GW:EN) will probably be documented and will have some kind of tribute in GW2, and all future GW1 expansions will have their details chronicled and referenced in future expansions of GW2.
Nemo the Capitalist
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You could also ask why couldnt anyone Res Rurik or Togo or the emperor Shiro killed?
Or how Dead people can tell everyone there dead via pinging there own health bar. I typed out a nice idea about the spirit not leaving the body yet and then it dawned on me. The answer is simple - Envoys. The Envoys take the spirits to the afterlife and the person is no longer res-able. We as the chosen champions of Tryia are strong willed and the Envoys never have the chance to take our souls since we are ressed too fast for them to arrive or because they know we are the chosen ones and so we are special and they leave us alone for one reason or another. I would say the envoys remove the soul from the body(or this happens automatically) and then transport it away. In times where we are autoressed by the Shrines i would guess the Spirit from the body is drawn there by the gods where they teleport and restore the body and soul as one. We are the chosen ones, the ones the Gods Favor, the greatest Heroes of all time. (until Gw2 atleast) |
.......yeah what he said *_*
Nemo the Capitalist
better yet they cant be resed......
***unless**** Anet makes u pay 30 bucks extra to play wiht ur old toons ....
Master Togo performs flesh of my flesh------>
Raises Rurick----------> Rurick talks to kilroy and kilroy does a noob shout "I am a noob"-------> *snaps fingers all toons resed..
how do u like that?
*evilgrin *
***unless**** Anet makes u pay 30 bucks extra to play wiht ur old toons ....
Master Togo performs flesh of my flesh------>
Raises Rurick----------> Rurick talks to kilroy and kilroy does a noob shout "I am a noob"-------> *snaps fingers all toons resed..
how do u like that?
*evilgrin *
Epic Monkey Battle
The last person alived rez'd everyone with death pact signet, got drunk, got in a bar fight and was killed... along with everyone else 
stormrunner
I'm going to use the Princess Bride defense and say that when your characters die in game they're *mostly* dead. When Togo or Rurik die they're *totally* dead.
SotiCoto
Forget it.
My characters won't be dead by the time of Guild Wars 2. They're immortal!
They'll just be.... busy....
Chae Soon for one will be busy getting it on with Jora, in a nice, secluded home at the top of that mountain on Shing Jea island that is effectively unreachable in GW.
So there.
My characters won't be dead by the time of Guild Wars 2. They're immortal!
They'll just be.... busy....
Chae Soon for one will be busy getting it on with Jora, in a nice, secluded home at the top of that mountain on Shing Jea island that is effectively unreachable in GW.
So there.
Chilos
Didn't Ogden said: Children of the legends? So our kiddies will fight that huge dragon
Protagonist Hero
I personally am glad that u will not be able to bring your char to GW2. I would hate having to be behind all of you for the second guild wars. Why shouldn't new player like myself have a chance to regain why we lost and start all over the same as most of u guys? Though we probably will never be able to, since u guys have more knowledge than we ever are, but at least were on the same pace. So next time, when u talk about GW1 char to GW2, think of other first, then yourselve. Not everyone is fortunate to play GW when it first came out.
In my case, i didn't have a decent connection cuz my parent didn't believe in game. Suck for me I guess.
The bottom line is I want to be on the same pace as all u pro and vet.
In my case, i didn't have a decent connection cuz my parent didn't believe in game. Suck for me I guess.
The bottom line is I want to be on the same pace as all u pro and vet.
Avatar Exico
Well GW2 is a total new game. So all characters are gone it 100 years have pasted since the first GW. So are characters would over 103 years old so they be old farts. From what i heard the level Cap gets increase in GW2 idk if that or wrong so i wont put it as fact until Anet give a clearlfy of the that. But the good thing is all the Stuff we put in HoM are characters get to use in GW2 well from what i read.
SpotJorge
well for the ones that dont want theyr characters to die just when create the new characters on gw2 give them the same name and the same appearance you have in gw1 - so what you loose ? experience + weapons + armor - well if you could move your characters to gw2 all this would be lost too because experience + material stuff will be diferent in gw2
So create new characters in gw2 = characters you have in gw1 and just think your character like you are starting a new game
So create new characters in gw2 = characters you have in gw1 and just think your character like you are starting a new game
ensoriki
Video games rules 101.
The big number 1 rule
If it dies in a cutscene, its dead.
Video game rule number 2!
If it's not dead, it wasn't supposed to be dead.
The big number 1 rule
If it dies in a cutscene, its dead.
Video game rule number 2!
If it's not dead, it wasn't supposed to be dead.
shoyon456
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create new characters in gw2 = characters you have in gw1 and just think your character like you are starting a new game
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xbomber
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Originally Posted by stormrunner
I'm going to use the Princess Bride defense and say that when your characters die in game they're *mostly* dead. When Togo or Rurik die they're *totally* dead.
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roshanabey2
I think i agree with the idea when you character dies he/she is mostly dead like completly knocked or soul still remains in the body, but when people like rurik and togo died thet were either cut up ( in ruriks case) or soul (i think) used in somesort of sacrifice in togos case. And probably lore wise if your dead for quite some time, you can't be ressed, well that is my oppinion anyway..
angmar_nite
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Originally Posted by Protagonist Hero
I personally am glad that u will not be able to bring your char to GW2. I would hate having to be behind all of you for the second guild wars. Why shouldn't new player like myself have a chance to regain why we lost and start all over the same as most of u guys? Though we probably will never be able to, since u guys have more knowledge than we ever are, but at least were on the same pace. So next time, when u talk about GW1 char to GW2, think of other first, then yourselve. Not everyone is fortunate to play GW when it first came out.
In my case, i didn't have a decent connection cuz my parent didn't believe in game. Suck for me I guess. The bottom line is I want to be on the same pace as all u pro and vet. |
Dervish Kid
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Originally Posted by Chilos
Didn't Ogden said: Children of the legends? So our kiddies will fight that huge dragon
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Mark Nevermiss
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yup. so koss and tahlkora got it on and they have a wammo baby.
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Koss and Melonni man!
Sha Noran
Even Yoda died. Get over it.
Tyla
I don't want to die 
as long as there are res shrines i would be alive!
as long as there are res shrines i would be alive!
English Warrior
What!! My kids are fighting dragons, my bad i shudnt have gave mine that eternal blade ah well we better kill the children now so they cant take our fame who's with me?
Fangclaw
In any case, i'd prefer that my characters do die, because im going to play as a Charr in gw2. So if my character from gw1 is still alive they'd fight each other... (he's a prophecies character, so he's from Ascalon)
Just imagine, you log in and you find your charas wacking themselves on the head.
Just imagine, you log in and you find your charas wacking themselves on the head.
Baraden
Well, think about it this way; (And please don't get on me for being off topic, because I got a point).
How many times has Master Chief died in Halo? I mean, every has died in that game during the single player campain at least once but, in the storyline, Master Chief doesn't die, you simply reload your game and continue on to beat the leve and, eventually, the game, dying periodicly through out the game.
Well, how does that work? Well, think of it this way; all those times you died never happened, as far as the story is concerned. Only the time that you actually lived really happened.
Now, think of Master Togo; How many times has he died in those early canthan missions where you have to protect him? Seriously, if he really died all those times it'd be seriously hard for Shiro to harness his power later on. How do we answer this? All those times the players let Togo die never happened. Only the time that the player succeeded really happened.
There is a loop hole in this on how the players can die, get rezzed, die again and build up DP. Well... Maybe it's just that you really didn't die, it's just a function in the game to add a challenge to it. So you REALLY didn't die, it just looks like it. :P
As for why Togo wasn't rezzed right after Shiro killed him, assumming my idea isn't viable, probably the reason that they couldn't rez him was that Shiro harnesses his soul right there? Just a thought...
Another crazy idea from a complete lunatic, but hey; now you have my two cents.
How many times has Master Chief died in Halo? I mean, every has died in that game during the single player campain at least once but, in the storyline, Master Chief doesn't die, you simply reload your game and continue on to beat the leve and, eventually, the game, dying periodicly through out the game.
Well, how does that work? Well, think of it this way; all those times you died never happened, as far as the story is concerned. Only the time that you actually lived really happened.
Now, think of Master Togo; How many times has he died in those early canthan missions where you have to protect him? Seriously, if he really died all those times it'd be seriously hard for Shiro to harness his power later on. How do we answer this? All those times the players let Togo die never happened. Only the time that the player succeeded really happened.
There is a loop hole in this on how the players can die, get rezzed, die again and build up DP. Well... Maybe it's just that you really didn't die, it's just a function in the game to add a challenge to it. So you REALLY didn't die, it just looks like it. :P
As for why Togo wasn't rezzed right after Shiro killed him, assumming my idea isn't viable, probably the reason that they couldn't rez him was that Shiro harnesses his soul right there? Just a thought...
Another crazy idea from a complete lunatic, but hey; now you have my two cents.