gaile on faction PVP, PVP rundown

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person with a basic understanding of economics on this forum. The fact that amber and jadeite are decreasing in value is due to deflation, not inflation. When gold is worth more, you can buy more with it. 1 platinum is worth more now than it used to be, so you can buy more Jadeite with it.

P.S. Alliance battles are retarded. Thats where I go when I want to find funny screen shots that make RA scrubs seem good by comparison. Hmm of course I don't expect it to rain expensive goodies when ab-ing, but for a notable achievement a reward wouldn't be that bad. What about getting a shiny weapon when you win a battle deep in enemy territory? Lore wise it makes sense, sounds a bit like pillaging the enemy fort. Of course it shouldn't be über rare weps worth a 100k, I was more thinking about regular weapons with decent stats (Or inscribable gothic axes :P). It would maybe decrease the waits a bit as well because people normally aren't in a hurry to fight in maps that aren't in their favor.

You should be really careful indeed when introducing stuff like that and your remark makes good sense, that's the reason why people shouldn't get it on a silver platter. Obtaining stuff with too much ease isn't really GW-alike anyway.

Oh yeah, and people please stop whining about what's retarded and what not. I have a brain of my own and it's working quite well. Do you mind if I decide how to play my game myself (it's my $150 ffs ).

I think I must address this issue of ABers being more skillful than HAers. I think you should rather not:
-This is no HA thread
-You and I damn well know HA isn't easy
-This thread has been raped before, let's not rape it again and give the mods headaches
-This thread is about factions PvP

kkthxbye ><

I think you should rather not:
-This is no HA thread
-You and I damn well know HA isn't easy
-This thread has been raped before, let's not rape it again and give the mods headaches
-This thread is about factions PvP

kkthxbye ><
I think you should rather not:

-Be a tard


This thread is useless, no one cares about Factions PvP, as it ISNT PvP. It's stupid. Fort Aspenwood (or Asspenwood as it should be called), is pointless and full of AFKers, and Jade Quarry is even worse, as no one goes there.

If it was PROPER PvP, it'd be on Battle Isle. AMIRITE? Yes, I am. Gtfo.

I think you should rather not:

-Be a tard


This thread is useless, no one cares about Factions PvP, as it ISNT PvP. It's stupid. Fort Aspenwood (or Asspenwood as it should be called), is pointless and full of AFKers, and Jade Quarry is even worse, as no one goes there.

If it was PROPER PvP, it'd be on Battle Isle. AMIRITE? Yes, I am. Gtfo. Oh please c'mon, if you read back a few pages you can see flaming different PvP modes doesn't go anywhere, if you don't like, don't play. The OP didn't mean to piss on HA at all, it was just a clumsy remark. And that arrogance to decide for other people what they care about or not is really starting to greatly annoy me. Being called a tard by a guy that's likely to be half my age annoys me even more. Insulting people doesn't suit you dude, you wouldnt dare to if I was standing right next to you. Try to keep it GOREDENGINEcivil! I post quite a lot on Guru and I try to be polite and respectful, I expect other people to extend me the same courtesy.

To me, AB are simply a wasted potential atm. So much of GW PvP feels like it lately it's really sad. If you actually read those forums regularly, you'd notice that a lot of high level players think that AB has lots of potential IF you could select your team.

Sadly, any game type where you can't decide 2/3 of your team and gives PvE rewards (i.e. encourages PvErs to enter) will never be serious and will always be populated with a majority of 'bad' players (in PvP anyway). It's just normal, and it's not to denigrate people in there, they just don't know the basics of GW PvP most of the time. Sure they might know the skills, but they have no real teamwork, hell many don't even seem to notice the game objectives of AB (capping shrines and not forming a big pointless battle in center). Atm, it's at best a very casual form of PvP. You take it seriously? Fine, but it doesn't make it so as a vast majority of players playing there don't and sadly those will be on your team as often as on the other.


I don't care if they leave a random part of AB. Just like i don't care that RA exists when TA is there. Random casual PvP is good for people starting or PvErs that want to play some sort of PvP without getting bashed over and over.

But why did they never make Alliance Battle be this? Alliance Battle just like there is Guild Battles?

You know, something like you can pick your 12, say 6-8 of them have to be from your Alliance, and then do some sort of Alliance ladder? When you win you get X points, when you lose you lose X points, ofc scaling accordingly to map size with very small penalty for losing when you're in the last maps. Hell, it could even be frozen in center map and they could add 2-3 'balanced' maps with GW:EN so that there's some sort of variety. Give slightly better rewards as it'd very likely be harder to win (say double faction gained on win or something). If the ladder doesn't work (might be too complicated for Alliances to control who's playing and might lead to more edrama than necessary), you could also do it based on guild (6 players have to be from the guild) .

Or just trash the ladder altogether but give significant rewards. They could make it also a 'map progression' of sort ala HA. For example, when you start you're in your base (or in center), and every win you go one map further trying to reach the other team's base, with every map giving say a bit more faction, etc. If you win in the other team's base, you can 'Pillage' it, i.e. chest ala HA.

So basically when you start you're in your home map (your fort), trying to beat off the other side's team that actually managed to push up to there. If there is none, well you simply 'skip' this one just like you skip in HA. And every win you will progress from map to map (or skip if there's no opposition) until you reach the last map where you can hopefully manage to win there and 'Pillage'. And as you win, the team facing you will rotate from people entering AB on the other side. Do something like an HoH chest in the end and good faction reward, and i'm convinced that it would attract a lot of people in there.



See, there is lots of potential on what you could do with it to make it attractive and competitive. But none of it is actually done. AB is just left alone as a 'casual' PvP that just brings PvErs in or PvPers that are bored and a small minority of people taking it seriously that are shafted because nobody else, even in their team, does. Just like HvH is limited to Heroes when it could be a great 4v4 fight. Or FA would be awesome casual PvP if they got rid of Leechers. Although that's not particularly easy, at least they could do SOMETHING about it (account banned from FA for 1 hour if you don't move at all during a game for example. I'm sure there's many better suggestions out there). Or HA would be nice if they finished tweaking it instead of trying something, doing some nice changes (random HoH) but also mistakes (kill count) and leaving those there forever. Or GvG would be better if they fixed the damn problem with 'map-abuse' builds ala hex on Jade by doing a random map system instead of a 'map of the worse team' system. So many LITTLE things that don't take much to implement and that would improve GW PvP enormously in the end. But no one's there doing it on the other side. And it makes GW one of the most frustrating game to competitive players, because they stick to it seeing all the potential that's there, but this potential is just left there to rot.

ok, /rant. No.


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