Calling all survivors
Perkunas
Ok folks, I am about to start my 17th try for the Survivor Title. I have tried with 4 Warriors, 3 Monks, 2 Rangers, 2 Dervs, 3 Eles, 2 Necros. The highest level reached so far has been 14 & approx 50% with a warrior. What class and what chapters did you use to reach your Survivor Title? Did you play thru each mission and quest, as I have been trying to do, or did you find another way? Not really looking for builds, but more for how you did it.
Sergeant of Marines
I have reached level 1 Survivor on 4 characters ans level 2 on 2 characters only to have them owned by Shiro in the Gate of Madness . Easiest one would have had to be my Ele...Started in Cantha and 4 hours later She was a Survivor, have a screenshot that I will post later tonight after work...My others were A Ritualist (Level 2) Dervish (Level 2), Basically D/E with Stoneflesh Aura, Armour of the Earth, Vital Boon, Mystic Regen worked very nice tanked Shiro to about 1/4 Health the SV Kinda was pointless...Monk also easy Prot Spirit FTW (lvl 1)...Did all with Henchies and Heros, just remember to try and not Basically to be the first to aggro and dont over Aggro....Almost Died a couple times in HardMode on my Dervish due to over Aggroing...
Another hint is to know what you are going up against, wether it be Mostly Melee Characters, or Spellcasters I.E Shatter Enchatment is a big one, Chilibans hurts as well...Also look at the Survivor Guide that is somewhere on Guru....any questions pm me IGN Sergeant Of Marines...
Another hint is to know what you are going up against, wether it be Mostly Melee Characters, or Spellcasters I.E Shatter Enchatment is a big one, Chilibans hurts as well...Also look at the Survivor Guide that is somewhere on Guru....any questions pm me IGN Sergeant Of Marines...
Kook~NBK~
I made a Monk in Prophecies.
1. Did every quest (including each profession specific quest) in Pre-searing.
2. Did every quest, Mission & Bonus up to LA. and up to Aurora Glade using Henchies.
3. Went to Nightfall and got most of Heros and did Masters missions up to somewhere in Vabbi
4. Went to cantha and took advantage of all of the 3k XP quests around the city.
5. Got guildies & friends to help with the bonuses in the Desert missions.
6. Made sure I knew how to beat my doppleganger by trying out the build I was going to use (TY, guildwiki) with a different character first.
7. Took advantage of a Double XP skill cap weekend.
8. Used lots of scrolls running the LB point farming spot in Mirror of Lyss.
I DID NOT:
1. Stick around for the PvP battle when going to the acadamy, I logged out right after the gates opened.
2. Go into any mission / quest without checking for possible problems.
3. Do any cantha missions - Didn't take the chance that the visunah square mission bug would get me.
4. Do anything with PUGs (even though I normally have no reservations about using PUGS)
5. Die.
1. Did every quest (including each profession specific quest) in Pre-searing.
2. Did every quest, Mission & Bonus up to LA. and up to Aurora Glade using Henchies.
3. Went to Nightfall and got most of Heros and did Masters missions up to somewhere in Vabbi
4. Went to cantha and took advantage of all of the 3k XP quests around the city.
5. Got guildies & friends to help with the bonuses in the Desert missions.
6. Made sure I knew how to beat my doppleganger by trying out the build I was going to use (TY, guildwiki) with a different character first.
7. Took advantage of a Double XP skill cap weekend.
8. Used lots of scrolls running the LB point farming spot in Mirror of Lyss.
I DID NOT:
1. Stick around for the PvP battle when going to the acadamy, I logged out right after the gates opened.
2. Go into any mission / quest without checking for possible problems.
3. Do any cantha missions - Didn't take the chance that the visunah square mission bug would get me.
4. Do anything with PUGs (even though I normally have no reservations about using PUGS)
5. Die.
strcpy
Is there any particular reason why you couldn't just flag the hench/hero to where they need to fight and have them do it? There are VERY few missions in Elona that this wouldn't work on and you only need to get to the wurms - then I *know* you can do it from there on out as I normally farm LB/SS points that way.
Especially true if you have enough unlocks, gold, and weapons to fully equip your heroes.
As to how fast this is - probably not too fast. But then, survivor never was one of those "speed" titles as far as I could tell.
*shrug* dunno - the title always seems like to much effort on my end, I can be somewhat suicidal and tend to not pay a whole lot of attention when I play (I watch TV at the same time). The hench don't complain and I enjoy it. I didn't notice that my paragon was about 5000 exp away from it when she died for the first time or I would have made an effort to get it, but then the only reason she made it that far was that she was the fourth character through Elona and I knew what I was doing. Nothing secret there, just a much better player than before and more unlocks for professions I rarely play (better heroes).
Especially true if you have enough unlocks, gold, and weapons to fully equip your heroes.
As to how fast this is - probably not too fast. But then, survivor never was one of those "speed" titles as far as I could tell.
*shrug* dunno - the title always seems like to much effort on my end, I can be somewhat suicidal and tend to not pay a whole lot of attention when I play (I watch TV at the same time). The hench don't complain and I enjoy it. I didn't notice that my paragon was about 5000 exp away from it when she died for the first time or I would have made an effort to get it, but then the only reason she made it that far was that she was the fourth character through Elona and I knew what I was doing. Nothing secret there, just a much better player than before and more unlocks for professions I rarely play (better heroes).
Curse You
Easiest profession for Survivor: Paragon.
Why? Because they have the same armour as a warrior (minus the 20 vs physical) and are ranged attackers with protective skills.
I've currently got my paragon very close to Tier 2. However, I did get my paragon "run" to Consulate docks when she was level 14, just to be safe.
Also as a paragon, [wiki]Mending Refrain[/wiki] is your friend.
Why? Because they have the same armour as a warrior (minus the 20 vs physical) and are ranged attackers with protective skills.
I've currently got my paragon very close to Tier 2. However, I did get my paragon "run" to Consulate docks when she was level 14, just to be safe.
Also as a paragon, [wiki]Mending Refrain[/wiki] is your friend.
arcanemacabre
Personal anecdote - don't try your luck at any Air/Fire Ele, Channeling Rit, or Assassin bosses in Factions or Nightfall. Especially Kenshi Steelhand. He's the reason for my Ranger stuck at the first tier...
Ludo
There's alot of good advice here, but once you've gotten a monk to level 18 in Prophechies and then lost Survivor due to server lag you'll never try again. (At least I wont). In my opinion the most useless title in the game... there is no skill that can protect against a disconnect, and that usually = death.
Patrick Smit
A nice fellow monk can help u alot. My guildie is almost 3rd tier survivor in which i contributed quite a bit. We take a human monk (me prot), a healersboon monk dunk, and another prot that complements me. It may seem a lot, as a base, but u can reliably engage most if not all missions. He has finished Elona and tyria, now he justs need a bit in cantha to get his last tier, though at some point farming SS and LB in the easy quest in desolation will od fine too. He has a warrior, but at some points I had him stand away, like with shiro in gates of madness or against the mad god in which he played LoD monk ^^.
Another hint, equip health boosting items, you get attacked a lot less, and therfor are much less likely to be attacked, try not to use superior runes. They are really not needed.
Bottomline is better be on the safe side and enjoy, then endless repetitive farming. A good buddy, and some decent knowledge about your enemies will help so much to prepare well.
Unfortunately i will never be able to reach survivor as my char was born too early, but maybe one day ill delete and try one.
Another hint, equip health boosting items, you get attacked a lot less, and therfor are much less likely to be attacked, try not to use superior runes. They are really not needed.
Bottomline is better be on the safe side and enjoy, then endless repetitive farming. A good buddy, and some decent knowledge about your enemies will help so much to prepare well.
Unfortunately i will never be able to reach survivor as my char was born too early, but maybe one day ill delete and try one.
Perkunas
Thanks for the input so far. I have not played a Paragon yet. May be the route to take.
I have quite a bit unlocked for Warrior, Monk, Ranger, and Elementalists. Mostly from Prophesies, a few from Factions, and several from Nightfall.
I did find the Survivor Guide on Wiki too. Some helpful info there too.
I went ahead and started another Ranger in NF, got thru the first mission, then used a shortcut I found out about in here and got max Canthan armor at level 3. Got a few scrolls in my Guild Hall, had forgotten about the scrolls. As I aquire my heros, I will raid some of my other heros for weapons and possibly runes.
Would be interesting to see if anyone has a Warrior as a Survivor.
Thanks again for your input.
Edit:
Someone posted as I did about the warrior. Cool!
I have quite a bit unlocked for Warrior, Monk, Ranger, and Elementalists. Mostly from Prophesies, a few from Factions, and several from Nightfall.
I did find the Survivor Guide on Wiki too. Some helpful info there too.
I went ahead and started another Ranger in NF, got thru the first mission, then used a shortcut I found out about in here and got max Canthan armor at level 3. Got a few scrolls in my Guild Hall, had forgotten about the scrolls. As I aquire my heros, I will raid some of my other heros for weapons and possibly runes.
Would be interesting to see if anyone has a Warrior as a Survivor.
Thanks again for your input.
Edit:
Someone posted as I did about the warrior. Cool!
rohara
i recently got legendary survivor on my dervish. i used LOTS of scrolls. i played through NF like normal until i could go to cantha, then i went there and did a bunch of 3000-4000xp quests until i reached level 20. then i played through the factions campaign and capped every elite skill along the way. that put me to survivor 2, and i got impatient and finished it off farming the vampires at urgoz.
i did it all with heroes and hench - no pugs.
i did it all with heroes and hench - no pugs.
Navaros
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In getting there, never ever fight anything. Period. There are a few things you have to fight, like the 4 bosses at the end of Sunjiang, but not many. During battles like this stay as far out of the aggro as you can and be ready to close the program if you are about to die. Have your friends or Heroes and Henchmen kill everything for you. If you are in aggro range of anything, that is very bad and you are ruining your good chance of getting the title for no reason.
Disagree that there are no skills to counter a disconnect death. The skill is called "X out of Guild Wars and close the program before the server registers your death." Although on second thought, that might not work any more due to the "reconnect" feature. Which must suck for those who didn't get the title before that came in.
Ludo
It sucks, but as you say, I was playing it straight. Carefully, but playing the game. I dont want a "Sneaking around and not engaging the enemy" title.
Kook~NBK~
Oh, about runes - the more health you have to begin with, the better off you are. Get a sup. vigor and only use minor runes of anything else. Runes of Vitae are also a nice little help, too.
Roshi_ikkyu
use the little exploitable 'tricks' to help.
like what? Sometimes you just have to be in the area of a mob to get rewarded with a kill.
This is useful in someplaces like jade sea where mobs kill other mobs.
like what? Sometimes you just have to be in the area of a mob to get rewarded with a kill.
This is useful in someplaces like jade sea where mobs kill other mobs.
Cebe
After a couple of attempts for max survivor I finally made it:
The greatest piece of advice I can give a survivor is know when you're outmatched. It can take time to realise when it is time to run. I went by the general rule of: if 1-2 party members die...and another 2-3 are at about 50% HP, it's time to get out of there.
I managed Legendary on a ranger. Half my skillbar was devoted to staying alive:
Preparation
Bow Attack
Bow Attack
Bow Attack
Hex Braker
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Storm Chaser (this one saved my ass on a good few occaisions)
I managed it in Elona very easily. Factions has a lot of Dangers if you're starting out, Prophecies (classic as it is) is SO boring and slow, Elona is a nice mix between the two, but I found going /Me to block some of the hexed form those damn plants to be a great idea.
Good luck with your title.
Edit 1: Oh yea, I know max survivor is shunned by most GW players...mine was done properly. I completed all but the last 2 -3 mission towns on each campaign, completed most side quests, and capped around 90-100 elite skills. I did not get power levelled...the sense of achievement is great knowing I didn't.
Edit 2: Oh yea, Henchmen and Heroes are your friends. Therefore Elona, I feel, is the better starting place. DO NOT Trust Humans, even monks, monks will leave you in the **** mid-mission. Play with heroes with decent set-ups, henchmen, and trusted Guild / alliance members and tell them you're going for survivor.
The greatest piece of advice I can give a survivor is know when you're outmatched. It can take time to realise when it is time to run. I went by the general rule of: if 1-2 party members die...and another 2-3 are at about 50% HP, it's time to get out of there.
I managed Legendary on a ranger. Half my skillbar was devoted to staying alive:
Preparation
Bow Attack
Bow Attack
Bow Attack
Hex Braker
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Storm Chaser (this one saved my ass on a good few occaisions)
I managed it in Elona very easily. Factions has a lot of Dangers if you're starting out, Prophecies (classic as it is) is SO boring and slow, Elona is a nice mix between the two, but I found going /Me to block some of the hexed form those damn plants to be a great idea.
Good luck with your title.
Edit 1: Oh yea, I know max survivor is shunned by most GW players...mine was done properly. I completed all but the last 2 -3 mission towns on each campaign, completed most side quests, and capped around 90-100 elite skills. I did not get power levelled...the sense of achievement is great knowing I didn't.
Edit 2: Oh yea, Henchmen and Heroes are your friends. Therefore Elona, I feel, is the better starting place. DO NOT Trust Humans, even monks, monks will leave you in the **** mid-mission. Play with heroes with decent set-ups, henchmen, and trusted Guild / alliance members and tell them you're going for survivor.
ShadowsRequiem
ummm just play the game
I almost finished factions and NF with my monk
you can even farm exp outside thiarck in NF where you pull groups of heket to the vabbian guards. Though this is very boring and is way I only got like 60k exp from it lol.
Just dont make stupid mistakes, go through the game, and you'll realize how easy survivor 3 can be.
I almost finished factions and NF with my monk
you can even farm exp outside thiarck in NF where you pull groups of heket to the vabbian guards. Though this is very boring and is way I only got like 60k exp from it lol.
Just dont make stupid mistakes, go through the game, and you'll realize how easy survivor 3 can be.
Cookie Cookie Cookie
Don't rush, don't PUG, wiki everything.
explodemyheart
I just got Legendary Survivor on my Paragon a few days ago. Took me roughly 5 months, but it probably would have taken less time if I'd played it more.
I got someone to ferry me so I could get max armor as soon as possible. From there on, I did every quest I could possibly get my hands on, I took bounties from every shrine, and I used scrolls for everything I did. I capped every skill I could, did every mission I felt I could safely do.
I went to Cantha and did all of the quests up until Vizunah Square and capped all of the skills up until that point, then in Nightfall I got up to the Grand Court of Sebelkeh mission and decided there wasn't any way I was going to risk doing that, so I ended up getting the last like 80k xp from going outside of Dzagonur Bastion, taking the bounty from Whispers, and killing the elementals over and over using scrolls. It wasn't exactly the most exciting thing to do, but I got that last 80xp in something like a total of 4 or 5 hours, and I have 8 rubies and sapphires to show for it along with my title.
I did 99% of all of it with heroes and henchies. There were a couple of skills I had my boyfriend help me cap with him and his heroes, like Searing Flames, Mind Burn and Spirit's Strength, and completely ignored stuff like Weapon of Fury cause that boss hurts... bad. I always flagged the heroes ahead of me so they could take first aggro, then once everything was mostly focused on all of them, I'd come in and contribute.
I got someone to ferry me so I could get max armor as soon as possible. From there on, I did every quest I could possibly get my hands on, I took bounties from every shrine, and I used scrolls for everything I did. I capped every skill I could, did every mission I felt I could safely do.
I went to Cantha and did all of the quests up until Vizunah Square and capped all of the skills up until that point, then in Nightfall I got up to the Grand Court of Sebelkeh mission and decided there wasn't any way I was going to risk doing that, so I ended up getting the last like 80k xp from going outside of Dzagonur Bastion, taking the bounty from Whispers, and killing the elementals over and over using scrolls. It wasn't exactly the most exciting thing to do, but I got that last 80xp in something like a total of 4 or 5 hours, and I have 8 rubies and sapphires to show for it along with my title.
I did 99% of all of it with heroes and henchies. There were a couple of skills I had my boyfriend help me cap with him and his heroes, like Searing Flames, Mind Burn and Spirit's Strength, and completely ignored stuff like Weapon of Fury cause that boss hurts... bad. I always flagged the heroes ahead of me so they could take first aggro, then once everything was mostly focused on all of them, I'd come in and contribute.
Thargor
I have 2 legendary survivors.
1. Warrior Started in factions did ALL quests for ALL secondary professions. This is a great boost in XP and helps to level you up quick. Did every quest I could find. Moved to tyria and made my way to the trolls outside of droks and solo farmed them with xp scrolls. Dangerous but very effective. This method took 2 tries.
2. Assassin Same as above for secondary professions selected Ranger secondary after accepting reward for all other secondaries. Moved to Elona as soon as possible to get heros. Hero/henched until I got Koss back (reason for this was to cap barrage). Moved back to Cantha and hero/henched my way thru until Imperial sanctum. Grabbed a human party for that mission (This is the ONLY time that I played with other human players). Moved back to Elona, hero/henched the entire game. Moved to Tyria, hero/henched the entire game. Went to Domain of Anguish and had a hero solo trap the Stygian Veil for the remaining XP needed for legendary survivor. I played a crit barrage build almost the whole time.
The key to this title is patience. Take your time and move slowly. Avoid humans as much as possible unless you know them and you trust them with your survivor characters life. Stick with it and you will get it eventually. Good luck!
1. Warrior Started in factions did ALL quests for ALL secondary professions. This is a great boost in XP and helps to level you up quick. Did every quest I could find. Moved to tyria and made my way to the trolls outside of droks and solo farmed them with xp scrolls. Dangerous but very effective. This method took 2 tries.
2. Assassin Same as above for secondary professions selected Ranger secondary after accepting reward for all other secondaries. Moved to Elona as soon as possible to get heros. Hero/henched until I got Koss back (reason for this was to cap barrage). Moved back to Cantha and hero/henched my way thru until Imperial sanctum. Grabbed a human party for that mission (This is the ONLY time that I played with other human players). Moved back to Elona, hero/henched the entire game. Moved to Tyria, hero/henched the entire game. Went to Domain of Anguish and had a hero solo trap the Stygian Veil for the remaining XP needed for legendary survivor. I played a crit barrage build almost the whole time.
The key to this title is patience. Take your time and move slowly. Avoid humans as much as possible unless you know them and you trust them with your survivor characters life. Stick with it and you will get it eventually. Good luck!
Marth Reynolds
Cantha has a good pace for those wanting enough xp, it's possibly also the most dangerous continent for survivers (battle isles excluded )
Know your skills, carry a rebirth if possible, like other said do research on areas (with wiki), watch your agro, be very very afraid of rit and ele bosses.
Warrior henchman will have times that they pull to much and get you killed, but without one you'll probaly end up taking the agro and do take heroes if you can! they are way better then henchmans.
Ow and if you can go partially assasin i reccommend it, [skill]feigned neutrality[/skill] saved my arse more times then i could count.
Anf for easy exp, try out Gyala Hatchery Explorable there are always outcasts fighting the luxons and when they are killed you get xp..
Know your skills, carry a rebirth if possible, like other said do research on areas (with wiki), watch your agro, be very very afraid of rit and ele bosses.
Warrior henchman will have times that they pull to much and get you killed, but without one you'll probaly end up taking the agro and do take heroes if you can! they are way better then henchmans.
Ow and if you can go partially assasin i reccommend it, [skill]feigned neutrality[/skill] saved my arse more times then i could count.
Anf for easy exp, try out Gyala Hatchery Explorable there are always outcasts fighting the luxons and when they are killed you get xp..
Destinyy
I have Surv1 on like 8 chars now, it's the easiest title IMO... Just be careful and pick your fights wisely... Don't over aggro, pull enemies out at every opportunity, watch how you enter the battle and make sure you have a back door if you need to retreat... My advise, if you wanna be really proud of your survivor title: NEVER use F12 ENTER!!! All you have succeeded in doing is being able to log out when the going got tough, not being able to survive when the going got tough... I have Surv 3 on my Ranger and did it with alot of planning, patience and good defense and self healing ability. I had WD, LR and TU in my build... Use guildies where ever you can, even on noob island... I had guildies take me thru Zen Daishun, Vizuna and the likes and I was still able to help fight and contribute by staying in the backline...
Also, get max armor ASAP, I got mine at level 15 or 16 I think. Nothing wrong with getting a run somewhere either, just get it ASAP, it will even the playing fields when u get to the higher levels.
I Also took alot of interrupts in my build to neutralise casters, so ele and Rt bosses never really bothered me that much. I had Jin kitted out exactly like me so the 2 of us could overlap the interrupts. Then Koss and Dunkoro. Give Koss "Watch Yourself" as he uses it whenever it's ready and it does help you alot.
That's how I did it...
Good Luck with yours...
Also, get max armor ASAP, I got mine at level 15 or 16 I think. Nothing wrong with getting a run somewhere either, just get it ASAP, it will even the playing fields when u get to the higher levels.
I Also took alot of interrupts in my build to neutralise casters, so ele and Rt bosses never really bothered me that much. I had Jin kitted out exactly like me so the 2 of us could overlap the interrupts. Then Koss and Dunkoro. Give Koss "Watch Yourself" as he uses it whenever it's ready and it does help you alot.
That's how I did it...
Good Luck with yours...
doinchi
I got it the 2nd time I tried to get it. I used an Assasin, started out in Shing Jea (Duh!) and died at about level 4 in the snowy part of Shing Jea. I then deleted my 30min old assasin and made a new one. This time I decided I would get some help. I got run through the Shing Jea missions and hired someone to run me through a few quests. I got to level 6. YES! Then I realised getting quests and missions run for XP completely defeats the purpose of the Survivor title, so I made amends and decided to do the quests myself from then on. After only 2 missions and countless Shing Jea and Kaineng Centre quests I am a survivor on my Assasin!
You might find this helpful...
1. Don't give up
2. Try to get masters in the first 2 Shing Jea missions, but only do so when your can easily pwn the enemies, no point rushing through a mish and dying now is there?
3. If you use henchies, and you probably will, direct them using flags, its very risky to run into the fray first as you take most of the aggro and get bogged down by swarms of enemies.
4. If you die the first time or two, don't give up.
5. Be patient, take your time. Read up on quests before taking them to avoid being killed by a monster spawn in the last part of a seemingly easy quest!
6. Never ever gp afk or play during bad lag.
Now, I'm no expert at this survivor title, I just made it to the first tier and decided to stop there. This is just a few things I made sure I did that may have helped me. Good luck man and don't give up!
You might find this helpful...
1. Don't give up
2. Try to get masters in the first 2 Shing Jea missions, but only do so when your can easily pwn the enemies, no point rushing through a mish and dying now is there?
3. If you use henchies, and you probably will, direct them using flags, its very risky to run into the fray first as you take most of the aggro and get bogged down by swarms of enemies.
4. If you die the first time or two, don't give up.
5. Be patient, take your time. Read up on quests before taking them to avoid being killed by a monster spawn in the last part of a seemingly easy quest!
6. Never ever gp afk or play during bad lag.
Now, I'm no expert at this survivor title, I just made it to the first tier and decided to stop there. This is just a few things I made sure I did that may have helped me. Good luck man and don't give up!
Spazzer
Elementalist was easiest for me to get survivor (elona). No real effort required. Just SF.
Big_Iron
I've managed to get to Level 2 Survivor so far with my Sin. Yeah, I know. Some people are going, "with a SIN?" I wanted to see if it could be done since Sins are notorious for "swish - splat - rez me!"
There's no big secret to it. Most of the hints I got right here on Guru.
1.) Good Hero/Henchman management. I don't do PuGs for a couple reasons. a.) they're unreliable, b.) if I do have to do a quick exit to avoid dying, I'm not abandoning real people. (I've only had to do that once, btw.)
2.) Do as many high XP quests as you can. These are mostly found in Factions and Nightfall. I haven't bothered doing many in Prophecies since most quests are only about 500 xp.
3.) Skill cap, skill cap, skill cap. When you get to level 20, you get 5000 xp for every elite cap. These really add up. Plus, you get points toward your Skill Hunter titles.
There's no big secret to it. Most of the hints I got right here on Guru.
1.) Good Hero/Henchman management. I don't do PuGs for a couple reasons. a.) they're unreliable, b.) if I do have to do a quick exit to avoid dying, I'm not abandoning real people. (I've only had to do that once, btw.)
2.) Do as many high XP quests as you can. These are mostly found in Factions and Nightfall. I haven't bothered doing many in Prophecies since most quests are only about 500 xp.
3.) Skill cap, skill cap, skill cap. When you get to level 20, you get 5000 xp for every elite cap. These really add up. Plus, you get points toward your Skill Hunter titles.
Traveller
I got level 1 Survivor with my Paragon, which was my goal. After that I didn't focus on getting more levels and eventually died, but getting the level 1 was very easy and I didn't even come close to dying.
It helped that I could port to Kaineng and cap elites with my secondary (/W) on a double xp for elite caps weekend, since there are quite a few just around the city. Even if I didn't plan on using the warrior elites, they were still a good source of xp - and not to mention to various fed-ex type run around - quests around KC as well.
It helped that I could port to Kaineng and cap elites with my secondary (/W) on a double xp for elite caps weekend, since there are quite a few just around the city. Even if I didn't plan on using the warrior elites, they were still a good source of xp - and not to mention to various fed-ex type run around - quests around KC as well.
ogre-mage
Like I meant with my image, Doorman can be the best bet for some tier survivor titles. But another great solution is right outside of Yohlon Haven.
Depending on what profession you're taking, it can be really easy to farm the howlers to the east while in hard mode. If you add a hunter's insight every run (300gp: +175%xp for 5 minutes) you can make 10,500xp every 20 monkeys you kill (there are 4 groups of 5 right outside Yohlon.) I would suggest for most professions just to bring [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill], or [skill]Shield Of Judgment[/skill]. Either one @ 12 attribute points will be enough to kill off the tusked beasts quickly, and you can make 10,500xp in about 2 minutes, rinse, and repeat. Adding the time it takes to warp, and assuming you have 1mil exp to your third survivor title, you could effectively reach it in 300minutes, or 5 hours, and 30k in scrolls. Quickest way I can see it working without putting yourself at risk of death. So effectively if you play whatever character your trying to get survivor on for 30 minutes every day (just farming), you could have legendary in about 10 days.
For VWK all you'd really need is [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill] and [skill]resilient weapon[/skill].
If you can't go far enough in the game to get VWK, SoJ works but it's a little slower than VWK, possibly adding another hour to my 5 hour estimate.
Depending on what profession you're taking, it can be really easy to farm the howlers to the east while in hard mode. If you add a hunter's insight every run (300gp: +175%xp for 5 minutes) you can make 10,500xp every 20 monkeys you kill (there are 4 groups of 5 right outside Yohlon.) I would suggest for most professions just to bring [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill], or [skill]Shield Of Judgment[/skill]. Either one @ 12 attribute points will be enough to kill off the tusked beasts quickly, and you can make 10,500xp in about 2 minutes, rinse, and repeat. Adding the time it takes to warp, and assuming you have 1mil exp to your third survivor title, you could effectively reach it in 300minutes, or 5 hours, and 30k in scrolls. Quickest way I can see it working without putting yourself at risk of death. So effectively if you play whatever character your trying to get survivor on for 30 minutes every day (just farming), you could have legendary in about 10 days.
For VWK all you'd really need is [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill] and [skill]resilient weapon[/skill].
If you can't go far enough in the game to get VWK, SoJ works but it's a little slower than VWK, possibly adding another hour to my 5 hour estimate.
Every time i lag
vwk safed my rits life at survive lol
greenthumb
For Legendary Survivor on my elementalist, I did the following:
The character was a NF character...I did quests and missions in NF (without doing the Hunted quest) and do some quests in Factions to get to level 20, Tier 1.
For Tier 2, I did the missions and some of the quests in Prophecies (from LA) through to Dragon's Lair (no bonus!)... do Prophecies first in order to ascend via the Doppelganger mission (before ascending in NF or Factions) in order to get the reward of 50K in exp; then I did quests and missions in Factions leading up to, but not including Tahnakai Temple mission (although doing Vizunah Square is risky with the bug...maybe logging out right when the cutscene would start might address that?); and then I did the did Kourna and Vabbi quests and missions in NF leading up to, but not including Dasha Vestibule mission (picked Margrid).
Generally, don't bother going for masters or bonuses on missions other than the easy ones. Don't use runners; fight your way instead. Generally, use heroes and henchies and although not better than human players, they are generally more reliable and under your control; learn to use flags to place them when needed. Use scrolls when you remember. To get to Sunspear General in NF, I think I mostly hunted heket outside Camp Hojanu.
For Tier 2 to Tier 3. I avoided doing elite captures earlier to wait for a "double experience for elite skill captures" weekend then did about 80 elite captures over that weekend. Unfortunately, an elite skill weekend just happened recently. They take place it seems about every 5 months.
The character was a NF character...I did quests and missions in NF (without doing the Hunted quest) and do some quests in Factions to get to level 20, Tier 1.
For Tier 2, I did the missions and some of the quests in Prophecies (from LA) through to Dragon's Lair (no bonus!)... do Prophecies first in order to ascend via the Doppelganger mission (before ascending in NF or Factions) in order to get the reward of 50K in exp; then I did quests and missions in Factions leading up to, but not including Tahnakai Temple mission (although doing Vizunah Square is risky with the bug...maybe logging out right when the cutscene would start might address that?); and then I did the did Kourna and Vabbi quests and missions in NF leading up to, but not including Dasha Vestibule mission (picked Margrid).
Generally, don't bother going for masters or bonuses on missions other than the easy ones. Don't use runners; fight your way instead. Generally, use heroes and henchies and although not better than human players, they are generally more reliable and under your control; learn to use flags to place them when needed. Use scrolls when you remember. To get to Sunspear General in NF, I think I mostly hunted heket outside Camp Hojanu.
For Tier 2 to Tier 3. I avoided doing elite captures earlier to wait for a "double experience for elite skill captures" weekend then did about 80 elite captures over that weekend. Unfortunately, an elite skill weekend just happened recently. They take place it seems about every 5 months.
distilledwill
The easiest prof to use would either be ranger or paragon.
Midline profs so you are not in the fray and likely to get random melee spikes, but not in the backline with armour made of thin, wet paper.
Just be careful, when you enter a lvl in the low areas of the game, make sure you are about 2 lvls higher than the henches, and when you are approaching a mob, keep your eyes peeled for patrols, if in doubt, pull the patrol and eliminate it to cover your retreat and make sure you cant get overwhelmed.
Also, when you do reach lvl 20, you can start capping skills. its good xp and helps towards skill hunter titles.
thats my two cents, its how i reached 400k xp and still going on my paragon.
Will
Midline profs so you are not in the fray and likely to get random melee spikes, but not in the backline with armour made of thin, wet paper.
Just be careful, when you enter a lvl in the low areas of the game, make sure you are about 2 lvls higher than the henches, and when you are approaching a mob, keep your eyes peeled for patrols, if in doubt, pull the patrol and eliminate it to cover your retreat and make sure you cant get overwhelmed.
Also, when you do reach lvl 20, you can start capping skills. its good xp and helps towards skill hunter titles.
thats my two cents, its how i reached 400k xp and still going on my paragon.
Will
eVeRt
On my mesmer I used Protective Spirit and Illusion of Weaknes, can't really go wrong there.
free_fall
By playing very, very carefully. And almost never playing with RP.
I have 5 chars with lvl 1, 2 of those have made it to lvl 2 (a 3rd made the mistake of going for that Mo boss south of Resplendant Makhun 45k XP shy of 2nd lvl).
4 are Factions chars, 2 W, 1 fire ele and 1 R, the 5th is a para. The 2 lvl 2 are 1 W and the para (the R was the one dead at 540k XP).
Did it by just playing through the game, doing all quests possible, didn't use XP scrolls, except a bit on the lvl 1 W.
The lvl 2s I got during the recent dbl XP for caps weekend. The para was up to ~510k XP and 1 W was ~417k. The para was pretty easy because he'd explored more areas and so had access to more bosses and only had to change 2nds once or twice. The W had to change his 2nd (I'd brought him over from Cantha and he was as far as Sunspear Sanctuary) several times to have enough bosses to cap.
It certainly helps if you have another char or two that've completed the various chapters, so you already know what to expect in terms of enemies you'll be facing and the lay-out of the maps, etc.
With the para, I had the advantage of getting him ferried to the docks for max armor at lvl 3 or 4 iirc and once he hit lvl 20, took him to Cantha for all those 3k XP quests around KC. As someone mentioned, Mending Refrain (cast not just on yourself but on your whole party) helped immensely, though it's kind of tedious to stop every 10 steps/seconds to cast Anthem of Flame to keep it going. lol
One trick I used on the Ws was to have them use bows instead of swords so the hench Ws would take the agro. I learned that trick with my 1st Proph W/Mo, who used a smiting rod - I had discovered that kept the casters back next to me, whereas they would otherwise follow me into the melee range when I used a sword.
With the fire ele, she has the armor that gives +10 while enchanted and I put enough points into earth so that Armor of Earth gives her another +46.
On reason I have so many lvl 1s is that once I got there, I was afraid to continue playing them, so I'd go off and make a new char. And while it turns out to be not really *that* difficult to get lvl 1, going for lvl 2 becomes very nerve-racking and takes a lot of the fun out of playing because I'm having to play oh so carefully. I can imagine what it must be like to try for the 3rd rank and I really want to go out and let these 2 guys die so I can concentrate on just having fun with them rather than constantly worrying about not letting them die.
The title is kind of meaningless, in a way, as it doesn't signify how skilled you are as a player, only how carefully and cautiously you played.
I have 5 chars with lvl 1, 2 of those have made it to lvl 2 (a 3rd made the mistake of going for that Mo boss south of Resplendant Makhun 45k XP shy of 2nd lvl).
4 are Factions chars, 2 W, 1 fire ele and 1 R, the 5th is a para. The 2 lvl 2 are 1 W and the para (the R was the one dead at 540k XP).
Did it by just playing through the game, doing all quests possible, didn't use XP scrolls, except a bit on the lvl 1 W.
The lvl 2s I got during the recent dbl XP for caps weekend. The para was up to ~510k XP and 1 W was ~417k. The para was pretty easy because he'd explored more areas and so had access to more bosses and only had to change 2nds once or twice. The W had to change his 2nd (I'd brought him over from Cantha and he was as far as Sunspear Sanctuary) several times to have enough bosses to cap.
It certainly helps if you have another char or two that've completed the various chapters, so you already know what to expect in terms of enemies you'll be facing and the lay-out of the maps, etc.
With the para, I had the advantage of getting him ferried to the docks for max armor at lvl 3 or 4 iirc and once he hit lvl 20, took him to Cantha for all those 3k XP quests around KC. As someone mentioned, Mending Refrain (cast not just on yourself but on your whole party) helped immensely, though it's kind of tedious to stop every 10 steps/seconds to cast Anthem of Flame to keep it going. lol
One trick I used on the Ws was to have them use bows instead of swords so the hench Ws would take the agro. I learned that trick with my 1st Proph W/Mo, who used a smiting rod - I had discovered that kept the casters back next to me, whereas they would otherwise follow me into the melee range when I used a sword.
With the fire ele, she has the armor that gives +10 while enchanted and I put enough points into earth so that Armor of Earth gives her another +46.
On reason I have so many lvl 1s is that once I got there, I was afraid to continue playing them, so I'd go off and make a new char. And while it turns out to be not really *that* difficult to get lvl 1, going for lvl 2 becomes very nerve-racking and takes a lot of the fun out of playing because I'm having to play oh so carefully. I can imagine what it must be like to try for the 3rd rank and I really want to go out and let these 2 guys die so I can concentrate on just having fun with them rather than constantly worrying about not letting them die.
The title is kind of meaningless, in a way, as it doesn't signify how skilled you are as a player, only how carefully and cautiously you played.
adderworks
I think greenthumb played my character for me. :P Joking, I did what he did for the most part, but I stayed out of the desert. I went to Ascalon to get the mission quests for my title on my ranger as my main difference from his method.
Destinyy
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Originally Posted by free_fall
The title is kind of meaningless, in a way, as it doesn't signify how skilled you are as a player, only how carefully and cautiously you played.
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Herein lies the problem tho, you can't tell how the person got their survivor title. The only person who can truely be proud and awed about the title, is the person who got it in the right way and has pride in themselves.
Perkunas
You all have been a GREAT help. Might actually make it this time. Thanks ALOT.
SuperDave
My necro (from Prophecies) made it to the first tier. Got to Yak's bend (tried to do all the missions and quests on my way there). Then a friend ran me to LA. Went to Kaineng, got max armor, and started doing the 3000xp quests there VERY carefully.. Anyway, so I just made it to the max tier and got wiped by a freak Dragon Stomp that 4 Ele's did at the same time (close to where Kenshi the Sin Boss is)
/cry
Then I tried again with a ranger trying to stick to 1 campaign and go all the way through prophecies. Got to Bloodstone Fen Lvl17, lagged out pretty bad, hit alt+f4 a little too late and got wiped by friggin scarabs
/cry
Then I tried again with a ranger trying to stick to 1 campaign and go all the way through prophecies. Got to Bloodstone Fen Lvl17, lagged out pretty bad, hit alt+f4 a little too late and got wiped by friggin scarabs
HawkofStorms
Don't try to get suvivor on a bad internet connection. I would NEVER try to get the title myself since I often have 2-4 FPS and could easily lag spike right into a mob.
shivanSoule
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Don't try to get suvivor on a bad internet connection. I would NEVER try to get the title myself since I often have 2-4 FPS and could easily lag spike right into a mob.
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i got r3 on my ranger after many [about 6] attempts. i did skill capping on elona, tyria and abit from cantha. then in between capping and missions, i did the repeatable sorrows furnace quest, summit slaves. got a pang of zomg when i got crushed by the ice crusher machine after lagging. luckily death does not count.
repeatable quests like luxon and kuzrick arena is great for xp and faction. but you'll have to be carefull getting there. also use guild hall button in case u need to map out quick. but try not to that in parties especially if u play a monk. =/ otherwise its safer bet to play with heroes on your own. take things slow and pull mobs. i wouldnt solo farm since you could lag and die or miscast some skills.
good luck going for it.
l Batman l
I got tier 3 survivor on my warrior first try.
Here are some simple tips
- Pull wisely
- Take your time
- Do quests, get bonuses
- Use heroes with runes, weapons
- Capture skills
- Use guildwiki.org
Here are some simple tips
- Pull wisely
- Take your time
- Do quests, get bonuses
- Use heroes with runes, weapons
- Capture skills
- Use guildwiki.org
Lady Ana Stacia
I have a para and mesmer Legendary Survivor and several others at tier 1. I recommend going with a class from the campaign you know the best. Exp scrolls are you friend. With my mesmer she started in Factions and did everything up until Unwaking. Other then scrolls and cap sigs did nothing special with her and had it in 3 days After she hit legendary went on to finish Prot and Grandmaster of cantha with her as well.
tasha
I've got a few survivors now, once you get the hang of it its easier to accomplish. My first was a tier 1 Tyrian Necro whom I played through to the desert with armor from Kaineng. My second was a tier 2 (and still going) Ritualist. I found her easiest because I could set up spirits and use the henchmen to pull into their range. My third is a tier 3 Dervish, and yes I did fight a lot of the time. My fourth is a tier 1 Paragon which I never intended to get survivor with, it just happened that way.
Few things I've learnt along the way:
-Treat your heroes as though they were real players - give them weapons (modded collectors are just as good as greens and golds and a lot cheaper), give them runes (mine have 1 major, 3 minors and a vitae. I'm on a bit of a budget), and give them skills.
-If you're having a laggy connection day, don't play your survivor. If you're having a computer problem, don't play your survivor. My pc restarted once while in an explorable (and just having engaged a mob) while on my Dervish. Its not something you want to have to cope with. If you are worried about a mission, do it with another character before you go in so the enemy groupings and locations are fresh in your mind.
-Don't be afraid to ask for occasional help - some of those bosses hit your flagged NPCs hard, so ask someone else to come and spread them out a bit.
-Know when you can't get any further in a campaign. My Dervish stopped at Grand Court. My Ritualist stopped at Imperial Sanctum. Both were missions I wasn't confident of survival.
-Consider working on another title simultaneously. My Dervish has 80% cartographer of Elona, because a) it made killing random things more purposeful and b) I'm obsessed with maps. I'd say she got about 300,000 xp from doing it. Doesn't sound like a lot but that 60k saved in cap sigs and 60 bosses I didn't have to kill. Use Sunspear and Lightbringer blessings to your advantage.
Lastly: take your time, survivor is not a title for the impatient.
Good Luck with your title, and feel free to poke if you need someone to hold your henchies for you
Few things I've learnt along the way:
-Treat your heroes as though they were real players - give them weapons (modded collectors are just as good as greens and golds and a lot cheaper), give them runes (mine have 1 major, 3 minors and a vitae. I'm on a bit of a budget), and give them skills.
-If you're having a laggy connection day, don't play your survivor. If you're having a computer problem, don't play your survivor. My pc restarted once while in an explorable (and just having engaged a mob) while on my Dervish. Its not something you want to have to cope with. If you are worried about a mission, do it with another character before you go in so the enemy groupings and locations are fresh in your mind.
-Don't be afraid to ask for occasional help - some of those bosses hit your flagged NPCs hard, so ask someone else to come and spread them out a bit.
-Know when you can't get any further in a campaign. My Dervish stopped at Grand Court. My Ritualist stopped at Imperial Sanctum. Both were missions I wasn't confident of survival.
-Consider working on another title simultaneously. My Dervish has 80% cartographer of Elona, because a) it made killing random things more purposeful and b) I'm obsessed with maps. I'd say she got about 300,000 xp from doing it. Doesn't sound like a lot but that 60k saved in cap sigs and 60 bosses I didn't have to kill. Use Sunspear and Lightbringer blessings to your advantage.
Lastly: take your time, survivor is not a title for the impatient.
Good Luck with your title, and feel free to poke if you need someone to hold your henchies for you