Tyrian exploration, frequently missed spots
the_jos
I've decided to make a seperate post of this, since the " Tips and Maps for 100% Tyria Exploration" is moving quite fast.
The list is a slightly modified version of what I've posted there, not the locations, but some extra specification.
First of all a comment I made in the same thread on comparing maps:
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The method I surgest for maps below 98% is saving a 100% map and the non 100% one in an empty folder and use the 'Image and Fax viewer' (think it's called that in English) to switch between them.The list is a slightly modified version of what I've posted there, not the locations, but some extra specification.
First of all a comment I made in the same thread on comparing maps:
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You can see slight differences on the map.
For maps > 98% this does also work if the explorer has done a good job and has a lot still covered in one area.
Only two pictures in the map speeds up the loading a little and makes sure you are always looking at the right maps.
I use this method when I don't have my graphics program available. (not in original post).
The only method I use at home is visual compare.
I use a graphical program that supports layers (GIMP in this case).
I load the map and my 100% map as a layer.
Then zoom in to 200% and switch one layer on and off.
I use the 200% zoom since this makes it easier to see the difference The maps I use to compare are:
Still unexplored (except Lornar's) are:
- a spot on the east side of Sanctum Cay missing.
- a small spot in Grent's Footprint near the entrance of Sorrow's Furnace.
- a spot in Ice Dome
- South area of Divinity Coast mission
- a spot below Borlis Pass (explore from the mission, in the bonus area)
- a spot in The Wilds mission (final battle, there is a exploration trick on wiki)
- desert might not be clean (hard to compare this area)
- a spot on Iron Mines west wall
Maps with the 17 July update can be found here:
1280x1024
1024x768
Spots I know are missing on those maps:
- Sanctum Cay east side, 2 spots
- Grent's Footprint near SF entrance
- Lornar's Pass, small spot on the east wall in a corner.
- The Wilds, end area (did not use the NT trick yet)
I mention these for people that want to do their own compare for 2 reasons.
First of all, they should look if their map is better on those areas, to prevent exploration on those spots.
Also, you can see how differences look on a map.
For example, the spot in Borlis Pass is quite obvious when you have wexplored it yourself. This is how most of the differences will look like.
The area in Divinity Coast is a lot harder to see. That's the kind of difference you can expect some areas in Kryta and Talus Chute / Withman's.
Now the frequently missed spots list.
I've taken those of the maps I've been comparing for the last month.
Those were (almost) all 98% or higher maps.
All spots were on at least two different maps I compared.
Have fun exploring
- Ascalon Arena outpost
- Great Northern Wall mission, south west part (explore in mission, from Old Ascalon and The Breach, see wiki for how the explored area should look like)
- Old Ascalon, tar lake
- Regent Valley, tar lake
- Fort Ranik mission, south west part
- The Breach (breach itself)
- South wall Diessa Lowlands (from Breach entrance)
- North wall of Eastern Frontier
- Ruins mission, the river east on the east side.
- The tar at Ruins of Surmia (top), start explore from near bonus area
- South wall Nolani mission
- Diessa Lowlands west wall (below the Ascalon Foothills entrance)
- Yaks bend, Arena outpost
- North wall of Borlis Pass mission, also north part near starting point
- Borliss Pass west wall (also explore a part from Frost Gate outpost north)
- Frost Gate east wall and low south east corner
- North and west wall Anvil Rock
- Deldrimor Bowl central rock formation
- Deldrimor Bowl south wall (explore near the little building halfway)
- Top and west wall of Deldrimor Bowl
- Beach above Gates of Kryta outpost
- Gates of Kryta outpost (forgot area name): spot outside the outpost, below entrance to North Kryta Province
- Gates of Kryta mission,the area with undead in Gates of Kryta (behind Oink)
- Gates of Kryta mission, north west from first boss
- The lighthouse in Lion's Arch
- East side of D'Alessio mission (I think you can hit the spot from the boats in Lion's Arch).
- Rock formation west of D'Alessio Seaboard outpost entrance
- D'Alessio west wall (where you deliver bonus item)
- North Kryta beach (west side)
- North wall Nebo Terrace
- South wall Cursed Lands
- The wall above Beetletun (west exit)
- Black Curtain south east corner (east of Kessex entrance)
- Wall near entrance Kessex Peak
- Kessex Peak south west corner (near the floating fort)
- Divinity coast far north-west corner (hug the wall in the swamp), also explore behind the bonus-reward person (east side)
- the lake near the bonus area in The Wilds mission
- The Wilds outpost (north side)
- Bloodstone mission, area behind last boss
- Wall between Reed Bog and The Falls
- Mamnoon Lagoon, south wall.
- Silverwoods, west wall near entrance to Ettin's Back
- West wall Sage Lands
- Aurora Glade outpost, behind merchant
- Aurora Glade bonus area
- West side of Henge of Denravi ( I think where the collectors are)
- Tangle Root east and south wall
- Riverside mission outpost, west side
- Riverside Province: south-west corner (at 'bonus area', walk behind the obstacles)
- Riverside mission, kill last east tower, walk to water and on pier
- North wall Riverside Province mission (near where you get the scepter)
- Sanctum Cay mission, far east side (run past the end-point,
without triggering and move east), same for south east corner.
- Recently I also noted people miss the north side of Sanctum Cay (explore the beaches)
- south of Amoon Oasys, keep hugging the wall on your right side all the way down to you reach a couple of large bones.
- Outside Amoon Oasys is a collector on the rocks (near first portal).
- the west wall above Heroes' Audience.
- Elona Reach south site (just below the point where you enter).
- Dunes mission, bonus area
- The Scar west wall
- Thirsty River south west corner (ranger boss building)
- Spot inside building of the monk-boss Thirsty River (east side)
- Tombs outpost
- Spot between Droknar's and Ice Caves outpost (explore from Droknar's north east side)
- Ice Caves of Sorrow, Evinia's cell.
- Talus Chute east side, between Ice Caves outpost and Icedome
- Talus Chute, north wall (near Icedome entrance)
- Witman's Folly, get outside Drok's and expore the area just south of the exit
- Port Sledge west wall (inside outpost)
- Iron Mines west wall
- East wall Iron Mines mission
- Thunderhead, south wall (just after mission starts, probably inside outpost)
- Upper side Thunderhead Keep
- Mineral springs north east corner (Ice Imps)
- Mineral Springs east wall
- Snake's Dance, south west corner
- Grenth's Footprint, north-east corner
- Grent's Footprint, white area 'above' SF entrance
- Spearhead Peek, spot on the wall (explore from Spearhead and Tasca's Demise)
- spot on the low east wall of Spearhead, I think you can reach it from the Copperhammer outpost (north side).
- North East wall of Icedome (could also be in Frozen Forrest)
- Hell's mission : You get into the water near the 'river' and with right
position you should be able to uncover a small piece connecting to Abaddon's.
Places you can't visit anymore, but are uncovered on some old maps:
D'Alessio Arena: the island south west of Lion's Arch
Fort Koga: Henge of Denravi Arena, east of the outpost
Amnoon Arena: North west of Amnoon Oasis
Deldrimor Arena: west of Droknar's
The Crag: island south west of Ember Light Camp
Lion's Arch: the water south was accessible for a short time (the Amnoon bug: December 15, 2006).
Changes:
5 July 2007: added places you can't visit anymore
24 July 2007: added the 17 July change to the main posting
22 September 2007: added Lion's Arch to the can't visit list.
Star Gazer
wu wu!! great post! hopefully now i can get my 100%! (at 98.5 now) XD
Les Paul
the_jos,
I've been lurking on the big thread for a few weeks now and wanted to say thanks for all the tips. I went ahead and "built" a big map by tiling a bunch of grabs from the no clouds "U" map....grabbed a 100% map and started the compares last night. I was stuck at 99.2% before that and already scraped out another .3 to get me 99.5. I can finally see an end to my quest, lol. The map comparisons are awesome...big thanks to those that took the time to provide the completed maps too!
I've been lurking on the big thread for a few weeks now and wanted to say thanks for all the tips. I went ahead and "built" a big map by tiling a bunch of grabs from the no clouds "U" map....grabbed a 100% map and started the compares last night. I was stuck at 99.2% before that and already scraped out another .3 to get me 99.5. I can finally see an end to my quest, lol. The map comparisons are awesome...big thanks to those that took the time to provide the completed maps too!
the_jos
For those who want to compare themselfs, I've added two new maps (1280x1024 and 1024x768) to this posting.
Spots I know are missing:
- Sanctum Cay east side, 2 spots
- Grent's Footprint near SF entrance
- Lornar's Pass, small spot on the east wall in a corner.
- The Wilds, end area (did not use the NT trick yet)
The rest should be clear or almost clear.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...6&d=1180378193
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...7&d=1180378193
Spots I know are missing:
- Sanctum Cay east side, 2 spots
- Grent's Footprint near SF entrance
- Lornar's Pass, small spot on the east wall in a corner.
- The Wilds, end area (did not use the NT trick yet)
The rest should be clear or almost clear.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...6&d=1180378193
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...7&d=1180378193
the_jos
bumping thread since people still ask a lot about Tyrian GMC in various postings.
SnipiousMax
Thread is sticked!
But i wanna make something very clear first. Do not ask for Mapchecks in this thread. I'll delete any I see.
Use this thread to:
1.) Post any areas you are aware of that people frequently miss.
2.) Ask a SPECIFIC about one of the areas/spots that has already been posted.
Thanks for your contribution The_Jos! :P
But i wanna make something very clear first. Do not ask for Mapchecks in this thread. I'll delete any I see.
Use this thread to:
1.) Post any areas you are aware of that people frequently miss.
2.) Ask a SPECIFIC about one of the areas/spots that has already been posted.
Thanks for your contribution The_Jos! :P
the_jos
Thanks for the sticky, SnipiousMax.
I do have a question regarding one of my missed spots mentioned in #4.
On the Sanctum Cay mission, I have two missing spots on the east wall.
The first is south, that's my bad, I forgot it.
The second is on the north east point, on some maps there is a black 'fog' on the water, pointing north-east, away from the island.
I have yet to find the spot I have to hit to get it uncovered, so if someone can help me with that, I can work on a better map.
I do have a question regarding one of my missed spots mentioned in #4.
On the Sanctum Cay mission, I have two missing spots on the east wall.
The first is south, that's my bad, I forgot it.
The second is on the north east point, on some maps there is a black 'fog' on the water, pointing north-east, away from the island.
I have yet to find the spot I have to hit to get it uncovered, so if someone can help me with that, I can work on a better map.
Kushiels_Scion
Hello sorry for the ask for map checking, wasnt thinking at the time. I have 99.9%, realized i forgot a whole section of the breach and 2 spots on the right wall of Iron Mines and Northern part in Divinity Coast.
I have a little fog on the Abaddons Mouth mission to the left of some S shaped little river(most south western coast). I just wanted to double check if that coast (abaddons mouth) is mapd from abaddons or hells.
I have a little fog on the Abaddons Mouth mission to the left of some S shaped little river(most south western coast). I just wanted to double check if that coast (abaddons mouth) is mapd from abaddons or hells.
Darkfoxx
I'm looking for a 1280x1024 100% map that I can use to compare in Photoshop using the difference method. Anyone have such a map? The link is dead on Sab's tutorial post.
the_jos
Added updated maps for the 17 July change
gw087 is 1280x1024, gw088 is 1024x768.
Can't make larger shots because of screen limitations
gw087 is 1280x1024, gw088 is 1024x768.
Can't make larger shots because of screen limitations
TheSonofDarwin
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Originally Posted by the_jos
Added updated maps for the 17 July change
gw087 is 1280x1024, gw088 is 1024x768.
Can't make larger shots because of screen limitations Did you use a mod to remove the fog, by chance? I'll assume so since the GW:EN areas appear to be uncovered.
Maybe others can test, but difference mapping using those maps was completely ineffectual for me (and I've used only the difference technique for both Cantha and Elona with great result).
Edit for below: Hrm... maybe it's cause they have it zoomed out so much now. A lot of the map (especially the new areas) are showing up brightly now. Same resolutions, so that's not the issue
gw087 is 1280x1024, gw088 is 1024x768.
Can't make larger shots because of screen limitations Did you use a mod to remove the fog, by chance? I'll assume so since the GW:EN areas appear to be uncovered.
Maybe others can test, but difference mapping using those maps was completely ineffectual for me (and I've used only the difference technique for both Cantha and Elona with great result).
Edit for below: Hrm... maybe it's cause they have it zoomed out so much now. A lot of the map (especially the new areas) are showing up brightly now. Same resolutions, so that's not the issue
Crimsonfox
That fog over the EotN area is not uncovered, that's how it appears in game. Go check.
the_jos
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Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin
Did you use a mod to remove the fog, by chance? I'll assume so since the GW:EN areas appear to be uncovered.
Maybe others can test, but difference mapping using those maps was completely ineffectual for me (and I've used only the difference technique for both Cantha and Elona with great result). No, those are shots taken in game (with shift+printscreen) and posted on the website.
I did not even change the image names
I tried some comparing between two 100% maps (the one I posted and one of a barely 100% map) and comparing did change
Think it became somewhat harder to compare, but mind you, I compare 2 100% maps.
I noticed a couple of spots are almost invisible now, it's just a minor change on a 400% zoomed map and fog is not helping. On the other hand, some other spots are more visible now.
Maybe others can test, but difference mapping using those maps was completely ineffectual for me (and I've used only the difference technique for both Cantha and Elona with great result). No, those are shots taken in game (with shift+printscreen) and posted on the website.
I did not even change the image names
I tried some comparing between two 100% maps (the one I posted and one of a barely 100% map) and comparing did change
Think it became somewhat harder to compare, but mind you, I compare 2 100% maps.
I noticed a couple of spots are almost invisible now, it's just a minor change on a 400% zoomed map and fog is not helping. On the other hand, some other spots are more visible now.
MudBone
I have been working on the cartography title and need to know how to get to a certain area that I have seen open on several maps posted. I keep going through the Sanctum Cay mission but either die or end up in the desert. The area in question I have boxed in.Island off Sanctum.jpg
the_jos
MudBone, it's in the posting on top:
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D'Alessio Arena: the island south west of Lion's Arch
starlitesunset
dont bother atm with GMC im sure maps buggy at the moment im 68.1 decided to do lornars take a look here
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10179009
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10179009
Corrigan
Hi am at 97% and struggling. Really appreciate this info, had given up on getting 100% but will try again now
Snpbond
Hey Im at 99.9% now and am wondering if you can get this little area, any ideas?
Its the area boxed in.
Thanks in advance.
Its the area boxed in.
Thanks in advance.
the_jos
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Originally Posted by Snpbond
Hey Im at 99.9% now and am wondering if you can get this little area, any ideas?
Its the area boxed in.
Thanks in advance. There has been a bug that allowed that area to be explored, but that only existed for a very short time.
It's the bug where Lion's Arch turned into desert
You cannot uncover that one anymore.
Its the area boxed in.
Thanks in advance. There has been a bug that allowed that area to be explored, but that only existed for a very short time.
It's the bug where Lion's Arch turned into desert
You cannot uncover that one anymore.
agk512
hey, i know its asking a lot, but can anybody with a 100% map post a high-res zoomed in map?
one of the big reasons i got my elonian and canthan GMC is because there are a lot of high-res maps out there, but because of the new update in the map i cant find any high-res maps except for the leaked map, but i cant really rely on that because there are so many spots that are impossible to reach (not the GW:EN areas, im not that stupid . but in the original tyria areas) that the map is unreliable. i have searched all over the internet, checked all the fansites and there is nothing out there. even if somebody just opens up the U-Map and takes a bunch of pics, it would help out a ton of ppl going for the title.
ty in advance
one of the big reasons i got my elonian and canthan GMC is because there are a lot of high-res maps out there, but because of the new update in the map i cant find any high-res maps except for the leaked map, but i cant really rely on that because there are so many spots that are impossible to reach (not the GW:EN areas, im not that stupid . but in the original tyria areas) that the map is unreliable. i have searched all over the internet, checked all the fansites and there is nothing out there. even if somebody just opens up the U-Map and takes a bunch of pics, it would help out a ton of ppl going for the title.
ty in advance
the_jos
I do have the U-maps of my initial posting, but have not yet found a good place to host them.
I need to be able to replace them fairly easy without editing the posting here, since some are outdated.
Surgestions are welcome.
I need to be able to replace them fairly easy without editing the posting here, since some are outdated.
Surgestions are welcome.
bugbuster
Same here, I've used the U-maps for the two other continents as well. I'm not comfortable with difference layer map method and can't progress as fast as I would like. I'm at 98.1 and would like to finish be fore GW:EN comes out.
The_jos, instead of editing early posts maybe we should just start a new thread for GW;EN maps of Tyrian continent and post them there.
The_jos, instead of editing early posts maybe we should just start a new thread for GW;EN maps of Tyrian continent and post them there.
SaucE
Could someone post a map using the Textmod mod that make the Fog Red thats 100%?
the_jos
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Originally Posted by bugbuster
Same here, I've used the U-maps for the two other continents as well. I'm not comfortable with difference layer map method and can't progress as fast as I would like. I'm at 98.1 and would like to finish be fore GW:EN comes out.
The_jos, instead of editing early posts maybe we should just start a new thread for GW;EN maps of Tyrian continent and post them there. For me, difference compare works, but experiences differ.
I won't start a new thread for GW:EN (yet), because I don't know how exploration will turn out with the expansion.
For Tyrian exploration, the original post still applies, U-maps are still the same, only the zoomed-out map changed.
The_jos, instead of editing early posts maybe we should just start a new thread for GW;EN maps of Tyrian continent and post them there. For me, difference compare works, but experiences differ.
I won't start a new thread for GW:EN (yet), because I don't know how exploration will turn out with the expansion.
For Tyrian exploration, the original post still applies, U-maps are still the same, only the zoomed-out map changed.
demonblade
Can anyone tell me how to reveal this section of Denravi? I cant seem to find the entrance or way to unmap it
the_jos
That's the way the new U-map looks, am 99.9% certain you can't explore that (the updated map messed up the U-maps)
ReSpAwNeD
I am sure this has probably been asked somewhere but I did a search for it and didn't find the answer I am looking for. I am at 92.6% explored.
What is the situation with the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena? I can go into the outposts but I can't play because I am level 20. Would I have had to start with a brand new character in order to explore the arena's and reach 100%? Or am I still able to explore it somehow? or does the arena it's self not count? What do I do about this?
Thank you in advance
What is the situation with the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena? I can go into the outposts but I can't play because I am level 20. Would I have had to start with a brand new character in order to explore the arena's and reach 100%? Or am I still able to explore it somehow? or does the arena it's self not count? What do I do about this?
Thank you in advance
TheSonofDarwin
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Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD
I am sure this has probably been asked somewhere but I did a search for it and didn't find the answer I am looking for. I am at 92.6% explored.
What is the situation with the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena? I can go into the outposts but I can't play because I am level 20. Would I have had to start with a brand new character in order to explore the arena's and reach 100%? Or am I still able to explore it somehow? or does the arena it's self not count? What do I do about this?
Thank you in advance The Arenas counted towards the title, at least back before the maps were moved, but they are not required to reach 100%. When you get down to the last few tenths of a percent you'll wish you had them, but Tyria gives so much extra in terms of mapping you shouldn't have an issue. Without the arenas, Tyria was the only continent I didn't have to go back through areas to wall grind, and after I reached 100% I still had areas left that needed explored.
Good luck in your future mappings
Edit: The outposts count though, for those you can still enter.
What is the situation with the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena? I can go into the outposts but I can't play because I am level 20. Would I have had to start with a brand new character in order to explore the arena's and reach 100%? Or am I still able to explore it somehow? or does the arena it's self not count? What do I do about this?
Thank you in advance The Arenas counted towards the title, at least back before the maps were moved, but they are not required to reach 100%. When you get down to the last few tenths of a percent you'll wish you had them, but Tyria gives so much extra in terms of mapping you shouldn't have an issue. Without the arenas, Tyria was the only continent I didn't have to go back through areas to wall grind, and after I reached 100% I still had areas left that needed explored.
Good luck in your future mappings
Edit: The outposts count though, for those you can still enter.
pumpkin pie
Hi there, i hope this is can be posted here as I have been checking the Breach for many times for the cartography title, I did it again because, well, I can't find the remaining 1% and to my surprise, I did not mapped the whole of the breach and its because of the big pillar thing, see pictures, its a whole chunk (exectly 0.1% chunk) that I miss right behind Sally Kaugie.
*note your map will not show that 0.1% chunk is not mapped, because I've look at my maps for a long time and that spot now look the same as it was before i got the 0.1% for going behind sally Kaugie.
PS: Hi the_jos, you can always post your picture where I post mine, its a free web hosting service that has unlimited bandwith, direct linking of picture, and your picture will be updated here if you update your pictures in you pictures folder, just don't change the name of the picture when you re-upload them.
*note your map will not show that 0.1% chunk is not mapped, because I've look at my maps for a long time and that spot now look the same as it was before i got the 0.1% for going behind sally Kaugie.
PS: Hi the_jos, you can always post your picture where I post mine, its a free web hosting service that has unlimited bandwith, direct linking of picture, and your picture will be updated here if you update your pictures in you pictures folder, just don't change the name of the picture when you re-upload them.
katherinetheblood
Alright, I will say this thing helped me a lot. I was stuck at 99.7% and I went through the list and ended up at 100%! ^^ Put the list in a word document so you can delete them as you go and you will find your percents disappearing. I still had about 3/4 of a word document page when I was done. If you delete all of them, you may have an unlisted area missing which in that case, get a map checker. ^^"
El toro loco
Aright thanx a bunch man now im gonna get my title TTTTYYYY
SnipiousMax
Please refer all questions to this thread here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10232891
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10232891