How have you been making $$$ to buy the things you need since loot scaling
savage vapor 33
Treasure Chests! They reset them so why not!
kumarshah
Nope.
I would if I was interested in making all the different characters needed to farm all the places now. But then making characters I don't have fun playing is useless to me.
I just decided to start my Sword Collection without any elemental swords.
I would if I was interested in making all the different characters needed to farm all the places now. But then making characters I don't have fun playing is useless to me.
I just decided to start my Sword Collection without any elemental swords.
MSecorsky
I vanquish, and don't buy anything but lockpicks and the occassional rune to tweak a hero. A few things happen when you vanquish:
You get Elite Tomes, which sell fairly easily.
You get Golds, which can be salvaged, merched, or heroed.
You get gold to drop. Lots of gold. Of course, the heroes and henches take their cut...
You progress on up to seven titles at one time (I think... but this is bonus)
You find the free chests and get more gold.
You get a full inventory of whites and blues which you merch for gold. If you're smart, you ID all of them first to jack up the value.
Sell things cheap. You'll get a lot, so you don't need to wait around for that perfect offer. Sell to move the item, not to break the bank.
Well, that's working for me... but everyone's different.
You get Elite Tomes, which sell fairly easily.
You get Golds, which can be salvaged, merched, or heroed.
You get gold to drop. Lots of gold. Of course, the heroes and henches take their cut...
You progress on up to seven titles at one time (I think... but this is bonus)
You find the free chests and get more gold.
You get a full inventory of whites and blues which you merch for gold. If you're smart, you ID all of them first to jack up the value.
Sell things cheap. You'll get a lot, so you don't need to wait around for that perfect offer. Sell to move the item, not to break the bank.
Well, that's working for me... but everyone's different.
D8tura
Wow lots of posts! Awesome ideas!
I wanna add i'm not interested in pimping out my heroes but i do like them to have decent weapons and i'm more interested in stats then the color for weapons. Sometimes that includes good inscriptions for what your goal is with them.
people make 60-100k in hours by farming? Prove that to me and I'll call you a god. If any of you can show me I promise not to divulge secrets - they get out to bots and that is how this crap started....
my screen name is Zolpidem Tartrate is you wanna have some friendly farming or wanna farm in groups. Any help would be appreciated.
I wanna add i'm not interested in pimping out my heroes but i do like them to have decent weapons and i'm more interested in stats then the color for weapons. Sometimes that includes good inscriptions for what your goal is with them.
people make 60-100k in hours by farming? Prove that to me and I'll call you a god. If any of you can show me I promise not to divulge secrets - they get out to bots and that is how this crap started....
my screen name is Zolpidem Tartrate is you wanna have some friendly farming or wanna farm in groups. Any help would be appreciated.
Realm of Fiery Doom
After the poot scaling update, I've decided to make a Ranger runner for the missions and outposts in the Crystal Desert (Prophecies). I've got all the skills I need, and I'm in The Amnoon Oasis. So I'm all set, except...
My only problem (x2) ?
Child of Fiery Doom still has Pre-Searing armor, and is currently level 9.
So, I use method two, which actually works. Bug my lil bro to hand over some of the 395k he owes me.
No seriously. I'm being very serious.
So anyway, as soon as I get my Ranger set up, I'm gonna start running to all of those Crystal Desert places.
Oh, and I want to get my greedy little hands on an Urgoz's Longbow as well, but they cost at least 70k, so that's gonna have to wait for a long while.
P.S. I'm seen all these success stories of farming, and I would be wondering if anybody would be so kind as to share their builds and techniques for elementalist, mesmer and ranger farming via a PM, I would be eternally grateful!
My only problem (x2) ?
Child of Fiery Doom still has Pre-Searing armor, and is currently level 9.
So, I use method two, which actually works. Bug my lil bro to hand over some of the 395k he owes me.
No seriously. I'm being very serious.
So anyway, as soon as I get my Ranger set up, I'm gonna start running to all of those Crystal Desert places.
Oh, and I want to get my greedy little hands on an Urgoz's Longbow as well, but they cost at least 70k, so that's gonna have to wait for a long while.
P.S. I'm seen all these success stories of farming, and I would be wondering if anybody would be so kind as to share their builds and techniques for elementalist, mesmer and ranger farming via a PM, I would be eternally grateful!
Swift Thief
I farm ectos, despite the price drop.
Godo th great
My experience's post Loot scaling can be summed up in the lyric's "You don't always get what you want but you get what you need". Yes I was very upset after the update and consideded drastic steps but in the end I decided the hell with it I'm not going to try and change my play style (goals) because of the update. *Playstyle is going for titles(wisdom, treasure hunter, skill hunter, drunk...any others that I come across that strike my fancy) and I wanted a set of 15K kurzick for my main character. I would buy keys and cap elites and try to get amber for my armor. I got my 15k armor mostly by selling off extra minipets and a few items...although I had to sacrifice my leather square supply to afford the last piece. Total time about two weeks but instead of pre-loot scale where I could work on multiple things at the same time. I didn't have extra money for keys or caps. Since I got my armor I'm knocking out the tyrian skillhunter and buying the keys I can but I haven't had over 5k at any one time since then. I'm limping along by buying the cap and whatever keys I can afford before I go into the zones. For an example I finished capping a skill in Mineral springs and I bought two keys before I went in(all I could afford). Cleared the whole zone and after everything was sold I had 2247g a profit of 47g for clearing the whole zone +like 37 Iron and 47 wood(Highly salvageable) and a gold bow(q9 15 -10armor). I come out slightly ahead with something I would have to spend hours trying to sell but I have to walk into to many zones for my liking without the appropriate number of keys. Yes it was in NM and I should put together a build for HM but I've Vanguished some areas in HM and IMO the drops are the same but you may get a chance of getting a tome. Whooptido I can spend twice as much time as NM and get the same grapes but for 1500 a pop instead of 600.
Ayano Mitsu
To be honest, I've made more gold just doing quests and not trying to make any gold before loot scaling than actually trying to farm Hard Mode for golds and tomes after loot scaling. >.>
Moa Bird Cultist
What is this loot scaling you speak of?
Look, I don't know about everyone else, but HM more than makes up for the loot scaling, income wise, even if you just merch everything. At least, that's my experience.
Look, I don't know about everyone else, but HM more than makes up for the loot scaling, income wise, even if you just merch everything. At least, that's my experience.
MarlinBackna
I have to say that I didn't seriously start farming until after HM was released, but I have to agree that doing HM is the most profitable way. I do LB/SS farming for my derv (almost max for both of them ) and have gotten some great drops from the chests and use the other crap drops for lockpicks. I have even seen 2 elemental swords (not for me however ;( ) drop. I like it....
Skawtt
Since the loot scaling went in effect ive not done much really trying to farm much of anything. I had roughly 250k stocked up with nothing to buy really so I just started buying cap sigs. I went and capped all of Tyria and got quite a few done in Factions and Nightfall.
Now I have roughly 200k in the bank plus a fair amount of good drops just going out and killing my way to the cap with heros and henchies. Roughly 220 cap sigs bought with about 50k lost.
Now I have roughly 200k in the bank plus a fair amount of good drops just going out and killing my way to the cap with heros and henchies. Roughly 220 cap sigs bought with about 50k lost.
lennymon
I always get far better drops in NM missions helping guildies than anywhere else. I get more 'stuff' solo farming but the 15^50 mursaat hammer I'd always wanted? NM chest from Abaddon's Mouth, and I retained my lockpick too ;P
I farm *for* tomes, but if you want cash, help guildies through missions as much as possible... get rich that way
I farm *for* tomes, but if you want cash, help guildies through missions as much as possible... get rich that way
w00t!
Loot scaling has had a wonderful impact on me. That's because I never solo farmed, so my cash intake has not changed one iota. I group farm in Tombs, Sorrows Furnace etc.
The great thing is that loot scaling has caused a general deflation in all things. This makes things much more affordable to the non-solo gamer. Most places you can make 3k or so per hour, excluding the value of drops. Now that perfect weapons have dropped by half, casual gamers can buy the stuff they want much more easily.
The only people that were hurt by loot scaling were solo farmers and bots, neither of which I have much sympathy for.
The great thing is that loot scaling has caused a general deflation in all things. This makes things much more affordable to the non-solo gamer. Most places you can make 3k or so per hour, excluding the value of drops. Now that perfect weapons have dropped by half, casual gamers can buy the stuff they want much more easily.
The only people that were hurt by loot scaling were solo farmers and bots, neither of which I have much sympathy for.
DKS
I finally had my rit learn Vengeful was Khanhei. Learning skills he needed for the VwK solo farm build left him with a grand total of 1k in his inventory. In 5 nights times in HM my VwK rit farmer went from 1k to 80k just from selling stuff to merch. Additionally, I ID all gold items with my ranger, so any golds my rit found went into storage to be IDed by the ranger. The ranger made another 9k or so by merching the crap golds. And this doesn't count the golds I kept for personal use(max, req 9 inscribable spiky warhammer for instance) or sale to players, numerous perfect mods I salvaged and can use or sell(+30 bow grips, 20/20 sundering for axe, etc), the elite necro tome, 3 passage scrolls, lockpicks, the 2 black dyes, or the 3 major vigor runes all of which are worth a fair amount.
So yeah, solo farming isn't dead.
So yeah, solo farming isn't dead.
Age
I haven't been buying much and I haven't been farming a lot since the release of Hard Mode.I have just been keeping up with my Normal Monk skills but on one Monk that going to have to stop as I need new insignas.
ElinoraNeSangre
I've been making more money, so... Yeah I'm doing fine.
Mylon
I hadn't done any solo farming before the update, so loot scaling hasn't really had an effect on me.
I finally broke down and did some farming recently in Urgoz with the solo spirit farming build just to see if it was as easy as people said it was. And it was. And I was like... Hah!
I finally broke down and did some farming recently in Urgoz with the solo spirit farming build just to see if it was as easy as people said it was. And it was. And I was like... Hah!
Mylon
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I finally had my rit learn Vengeful was Khanhei. Learning skills he needed for the VwK solo farm build left him with a grand total of 1k in his inventory. In 5 nights times in HM my VwK rit farmer went from 1k to 80k just from selling stuff to merch. Additionally, I ID all gold items with my ranger, so any golds my rit found went into storage to be IDed by the ranger. The ranger made another 9k or so by merching the crap golds. And this doesn't count the golds I kept for personal use(max, req 9 inscribable spiky warhammer for instance) or sale to players, numerous perfect mods I salvaged and can use or sell(+30 bow grips, 20/20 sundering for axe, etc), the elite necro tome, 3 passage scrolls, lockpicks, the 2 black dyes, or the 3 major vigor runes all of which are worth a fair amount.
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Andrew Patrick
I've personally been vanquishing EA's and doing missions in Hard Mode and I have more money now than I ever had before. Granted, I was never one to play the market frequently, but simply from merch-ing drops, and selling the occasional mod or tome I find, I have been making plenty of gold to buy all the lockpicks, runes, and items I have needed. I just bought myself some new armor and a couple sup runes just from vanquishing a few areas in Ascalon and Kryta!
When I was vanquishing Old Ascalon there was a single mob that dropped 2 gold items, and they were standing by a chest that gave me another gold item. Hardmode is where it's at IMO.
When I was vanquishing Old Ascalon there was a single mob that dropped 2 gold items, and they were standing by a chest that gave me another gold item. Hardmode is where it's at IMO.
DKS
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VwK? Where do you engage in this particular farming, if you don't mind my asking?
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Just an example of some of the drops in hard mode, outside Bergen Hot Springs, 1 group of 5 skeletal rangers dropped me 2 gold dead bows, the second group dropped 1 gold dead bow, the third group of 5 dropped me a gold bow and a gold sword. Another example, killing Craw Stonereap 2 times netted me an elite necro tome, a lockpick, The Stonereaper, a gold wicked blade, a FoW passage scroll, a gold XP scroll, and a junky white item. Sometimes you get nothing but merchant junk, but sometimes you get drops like that...and that more than makes up for it.
ogre-mage
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Hey guys - sorry if this thread already exists but i did search for one.
ok, loot scaling - like it or hate it, we have to deal with it |
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since the nerf I've been having a very hard time making enough money for my 10 characters (play all professions) and all their heros. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say this. If you have been finding ways to make a few gold to support your ungrateful hero brat children please lemme know Thanks guys please don't turn this into another "oh noz loot scaling" thread |
I enjoy earning what I get (I farmed forever to get Fissure Armor sets) and think of it as insult in the purest form that Anet would do this to us who worked to get what we have.
So I've moved on, and I just prance about these forums on occasion in case they actually fix the game.
HawkofStorms
You see... what a.net did to "US." What a.net did to "ME." All the arguements of the complainers is VERY self centric. It's disgusting. A.net made the game. They can take it away. If they want to, they can shut down the servers forever tommorow, and it all be nice and legal.
I've still made plenty of money in the last couple of weeks (gotten around 70k actually) by just questing and killing stuff. All the gold I get for doing HM missions again helps.
I've still made plenty of money in the last couple of weeks (gotten around 70k actually) by just questing and killing stuff. All the gold I get for doing HM missions again helps.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You see... what a.net did to "US." What a.net did to "ME." All the arguements of the complainers is VERY self centric. It's disgusting. A.net made the game. They can take it away. If they want to, they can shut down the servers forever tommorow, and it all be nice and legal.
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Pandora's box
Loot scaling came on the moment I was starting to loose interest in the game. Not suprising after having played for 2 years. It happens in many games. Yet, I often find a reason to continue such games by gathering all kinds of stuff, completing armor sets, weaponary, etc.
Loot-scaling made me realize that this won't happen in GW: droprates are so low that its not worth playing just for buying some set armor, or to max-out hero rune's, whatever. It simply takes too long and it becomes hard labour rather than a pleasantly relaxing way to spend some hours in an old game.
Which made me realize: How is it possible that after such a long playtime players who don't grind still have shortage of money to max out on armor sets, runes etc? The very basic stuff in the game! The conclusion is obvious: Droprates are way too low in GW!
Loot-scaling made me realize that this won't happen in GW: droprates are so low that its not worth playing just for buying some set armor, or to max-out hero rune's, whatever. It simply takes too long and it becomes hard labour rather than a pleasantly relaxing way to spend some hours in an old game.
Which made me realize: How is it possible that after such a long playtime players who don't grind still have shortage of money to max out on armor sets, runes etc? The very basic stuff in the game! The conclusion is obvious: Droprates are way too low in GW!
wilq
I haven't played since the loot scaling.
6am3 Fana71c
At the very beggining of HM i was making alot of cash by farming (mostly Bergen) But all farms eventualy become shit, i dont get good drops, and some farms are nerfed before i even try it out (*coughs* Urgoz) So, atm i have around 1K on all my account 
and no, i am not going back to running, and i dont have money to do power trading 
and no, i am not going back to running, and i dont have money to do power trading
Every time i lag
no =/
i need the ecto to go up to lol
i need the ecto to go up to lol
DKS
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It simply takes too long and it becomes hard labour rather than a pleasantly relaxing way to spend some hours in an old game.
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w00t!
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Perhaps a little perspective is in order? Simply put, if what Anet has done to their game makes it less enjoyable for some, those people have every right to complain. In fact, they have just as much right to complain as people have the right to compliment Anet when they enjoy the game more. I dislike it when people rain down on either parade. Let them eat cake, I say.
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When Anet changes something, I adapt, change my builds, and have fun playing the game.
Most on this forum complain.
They might want to read Frankl's book sometime.
Rusty Deth
I solo HM. Loot everywhere.
And on the plus side I make a good amount playing in party's of 8 since the loot scaling was added.
I just think its all in the people who play it. Some rather quit or complain, others actually continue and adapt.
Those who've adapted have won out on this one.
And on the plus side I make a good amount playing in party's of 8 since the loot scaling was added.
I just think its all in the people who play it. Some rather quit or complain, others actually continue and adapt.
Those who've adapted have won out on this one.
greendc27
I quickly sold all my ecto, gambling that the price would go down. Its now around half of what it used to be worth. That being said, I already have most of the stuff I want/need in the game so I make enough money just doing hard mode missions and elite missions. I'm definitly not rich now but I have around 350k which I think should be enough for anything I would want in GW:EN.
Government Flu
I've been pretty much doing the same thing, although my options have been cut down...for instance I still solo FoW but no longer find Vermin farming to be worth my time. I've been throwing the dice around and treasure hunting too, trying to get good stuff to sell, but it's become more miss than hit.
When the money runs out of my storage, I may very well be hard pressed to get more.
When the money runs out of my storage, I may very well be hard pressed to get more.
Glitched
-logged on with 12k
-found birthday present; opened
-sold Water Djinn within
-made 40 ectos
-sold 40 ectos for 200k
-threw it all in storage and shed a tear
-found birthday present; opened
-sold Water Djinn within
-made 40 ectos
-sold 40 ectos for 200k
-threw it all in storage and shed a tear
Noz Crow
With loot scaling for me the game is just not as fun anymore. I like to play with all my characters (I now have everything except a paragon.) But I made the mistake of starting a mes, necro , and a rit a month before loot scaling. So i dumped all my reserve gold into some skills for each and now i can't afford to finish them. I am not a hardcore player, so gold is really hard to come by. So my choices are to farm more or not play and try out the new characters. Way to go anet, way to deter play. I have heard they also changed the Urgoz quick farm which i was about to try to finish the new characters. If anyone would like to share a Hardmode farming build i would love to listen. Just my 2 cents.
arcanemacabre
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Victor Frankl said it best. When everything else is taken away from you, the only thing that you have left is your ability to choose your response to any given situation.
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Twinsoul
I really don't understand why all these people with 10 or so characters have so much trouble making money... I'm only a casual player, and running the Elona treasure chests with my FOUR characters who have beaten Nightfall gets me more than enough gold for sets of 15k armor, as well as the golds I need for the Wisdom title and to equip my heroes with shinies...
About people complaining, I really don't see the point. Roughly half the people in this thread are breaking down, whining, rage-quitting the game, or just plain bitching, while the other half are reasonably pointing out that they still make plenty of money, mostly from HM. Why the whiners don't just take their advise instead of running to Mother Anet, I just can't fathom.
About people complaining, I really don't see the point. Roughly half the people in this thread are breaking down, whining, rage-quitting the game, or just plain bitching, while the other half are reasonably pointing out that they still make plenty of money, mostly from HM. Why the whiners don't just take their advise instead of running to Mother Anet, I just can't fathom.
Diddy bow
loot scaling i can live with, the pvp reward thing....
Yup those chests are a VERY good way to make money if your not such a hard core farmer, tbh i have few farm runs that make much profit as seeling things is very near impossible (rich have everything already, everyone else has no money XD). so im gonna stick to these chests and my super secret ranger run >=).
Yup those chests are a VERY good way to make money if your not such a hard core farmer, tbh i have few farm runs that make much profit as seeling things is very near impossible (rich have everything already, everyone else has no money XD). so im gonna stick to these chests and my super secret ranger run >=).
w00t!
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While this may be true in nature, unless you feel that bitching at god will change things, when someone says they will actively listen to comments and criticism, you're inviting the complaints. If Anet plainly said "Don't bother complaining, we won't listen", then I would be right there with you, because we'd have no choices other than adapt or quit.
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CyberNigma
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You see... what a.net did to "US." What a.net did to "ME." All the arguements of the complainers is VERY self centric. It's disgusting. A.net made the game. They can take it away. If they want to, they can shut down the servers forever tommorow, and it all be nice and legal.
I've still made plenty of money in the last couple of weeks (gotten around 70k actually) by just questing and killing stuff. All the gold I get for doing HM missions again helps. |
Then again, you'd only do something like that when you don't plan on needing the consumers anymore. If you plan on keeping your company running by selling future products (such as an expansionGW:EN AND a whole new game - Guild Wars 2), then your example probably doesn't apply. Take some business courses at your local community college.
Apologists sound just as bad as constant complainers...
Mickey
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haven't figured out a good way to make money post-loot-nerf yet. seems tomes and greens are the way to go. i got a whole inventory full of nice gold items nobody wants
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