"Coward" title for random arena leavers

czart

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ostatnie Tchnienie [zgon]

Random arena is famous from players leaving their parties, because "no monk", "4 mesmers" or any other reason. This destroy the fun of play this arena by normal players. My two ideas how to reduce this behaviour.

1) Make a new title "coward" or "leaver"
Each leaving a party before the end of a battle add point for this title. After gathering a certain number of points, player receive this shaming name. The title is assigned to the account and cannot be hided by player. After certain time or certain number of battles with friendly behaviour, points are slowly decreasing, so the player is not punished forever. In this way "leavers" will probably have really big troubles to be invited to any party in TA, HA or even in PvE.

2) Lower factions reward
Leaving a party before the fight is finished effects in not receiving factions by a leaver in next few fights.

GreatLich

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

How would you deal with people who leave because their teammates neglected to bring a res? Because that's a perfectly legit reason to leave, imo...

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

If they added that that tittel it would be something I'd certainly go for

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh there was, like, a thread that was, like, opened like 2 threads below this one. so, like, before you post another topic, like, you should use the search button and stuff. plzclozkthx

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

Jesus, someone should Spell Check this thread ASAP.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

1)It MIGHT make it hard for the person to get in a group for TA/HA/PVE but still the reason the whole title was made isn't solved, they'll still leave whenever they dont have a team they like, heck they will leave every time they think the team setup will not get them a glad point just because they still get something for leaving.

Lets say i did 4 battles with one team and we won until then and i realized or found out or just want to leave and go do something else.

So i tell the group ill leave after this one , they answer ok, then we come across a team and we kill all but one which already used his res sig, that will also die , so i see that my team can finish it off without me and i tell them ok bye guys was fun and i decide to leave my team thought it was ok and they didn't get affected by me leaving but for some reason the game punishes me?WTF??

Lets say the same thing happens but instead of knowing that my team will kill the guy , the guy is a runner and will run around for a while just to annoy us but eventually die ( after 5 minutes of being the only one alive) so i either have to decided im gonna WASTE my time running after this guy , while i could have already been in my car and on my way to the park , or leave and get punished? WTF?


2) Not sure what you mean here but if you mean that leavers will get lower or no faction for X rounds after they have left a team , then ok this might be nice , but then again we have the same problem of getting punished for leaving when the team thinks its fine or leaving because i HAVE to, because something happened in real life.

Sorry punishments like this wont work cause there are legit reason to leave.

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

1.) It'd encourage people to do this, purely because they want the title, so expect it to be done more.

2.) For the people who don't want it and leave anyway, who'd wear it? They won't show it.

3.) Stupid idea..

czart

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ostatnie Tchnienie [zgon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
So i tell the group ill leave after this one , they answer ok, then we come across a team and we kill all but one which already used his res sig, that will also die , so i see that my team can finish it off without me and i tell them ok bye guys was fun and i decide to leave my team thought it was ok and they didn't get affected by me leaving but for some reason the game punishes me?WTF??
Title received after gathering XX points and decaying points after time, excludes all described by you situations, because they don't happen fight by fight.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
2.) For the people who don't want it and leave anyway, who'd wear it? They won't show it.
In the proposition they don't have ability to turn off this title.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh there was, like, a thread that was, like, opened like 2 threads below this one. so, like, before you post another topic, like, you should use the search button and stuff. plzclozkthx
My fault I didn't repeat searching since yesterday. Moderator should join together both threads:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10160528

multi killer n l

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Mo

i think you might be pushing people to leave just for the title... some people might want it.

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

leavers in ra are not a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing problem

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

Cannot be Hided ftw! rofl

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

RA leavers aren't a problem. However, I would like to see "Survivor" renamed to "Coward".

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

How about after enough times leaving in a time period, you're perma banned from all forms of PvP. It would be like a death sentence. That would surley stop leavers in the long run. It's a smart idea, just don't rage quit in less than a minute into the match or at least you can leave once your party is declared the losers.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Title:
1. It would just encourage people to do it more
2. No one cares what title you have. PvE? Most use hench/hero so it dont matter. TA/HA? Most people play with guildies/friends anyway so it wouldnt matter there.

Less faction:
1. faction has no influence on leavers.


The only fair way to deal with leavers, if they are even a problem in the first place, would be to put a time limit on when you can go back in after you leave a fight.

Kyle The Piemaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE'ers are funny when they first start PvP

stefan_moore

stefan_moore

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

how many more threads stating the same thing are really needed!

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
Title:
1. It would just encourage people to do it more
2. No one cares what title you have. PvE? Most use hench/hero so it dont matter. TA/HA? Most people play with guildies/friends anyway so it wouldnt matter there.

Less faction:
1. faction has no influence on leavers.


The only fair way to deal with leavers, if they are even a problem in the first place, would be to put a time limit on when you can go back in after you leave a fight.
Your point number one is very true. This would be a title that I'd go for because it'd be easy to achieve. Why would I do it? Well... I don't PvE that often and I always test out new builds, and I get bad teams. So I don't get gladiator points often. I also hate waiting to make a group at the Heroes' Ascent. Whatever, I just want a title I can max out.
Point 2. Very true...
Less faction point one. Very true again. Well... it might discourage me a little, I need lots of faction to buy skills for my looney builds which seem to work alright.

ANTICANCER

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

[KSA]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArKaiN
Jesus, someone should Spell Check this thread ASAP.
as someone said in another thread, this is a forum not an exam, spell how u want. (i think thats how it went)

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

I guess the mods dont bother to close these threads anymore.

You're retarded, RA leavers are barely a problem, its overexagerated. A title that cant be HIDED rofl, how does that even work ? Why would anyone in Ta or HA care if someone leaves in RA because they got a team with 3 monks and a rit, or this

http://www.pvxbuilds.com/index.php?t...ath%27s_Shadow

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
How about after enough times leaving in a time period, you're perma banned from all forms of PvP. It would be like a death sentence.
It would be like the death penalty for stealing an apple. Sure, it would keep people from stealing apples, but it would still be pretty retarded. There was a king in greece a long time ago who had the death sentence on stealing an apple fo real. We know him today as Draco the Bloody.

Toilet Oni

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Tonigth we dine in.....CUSTODY

Moe wine plz

R/

Sorry , wont happen again

Toilet Oni

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Tonigth we dine in.....CUSTODY

Moe wine plz

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk
If they added that that tittel it would be something I'd certainly go for
You are not the only one

mikez himself

mikez himself

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

London

Guildless atm.

W/

does this count towards KOABD? tbh this would enourage most people i know to rage in RA.

lucan hammercrest

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

I agree with a few things that are stated but what about power outages, drops andt title seekers? how many times have anyone of you gone through a portal and never loaded? thats the only problem have with it.

Phenixfire

Phenixfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Malice Dedication Ambition [MAD]

Mo/

farming coward title points ftw .... hope your idea gets added xD

Halbarad Wolfson

Halbarad Wolfson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

i made athread with a different suggestion to deal with RA leavers.

your idea is kinda funny, but i like my idea better :P

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3095214#post3095214

Locking this thread, and all the other "Fix Leavers" threads in Sardelac, for the time being. When the new system is revealed, we'll look at it, look at these threads, and see if they need reopened or not. Until then, let's all be patient and see what we get.