If ever a thread is created to discuss spamming, you will always get a minority of people making the same comment...
"If you dont like spamming, then close the local chat and ignore it"
...but why should we have to?
I've replied to alot of people who make those comments, and I'm yet to find any who give a good reason why we should just turn a blind eye and ignore it.
So im asking now! Why should we have to ignore spamming and abuse of the chat channels, or abuse in general?
Why, especially in capital cities where most of the population hang out, where most of the interaction happens and where conversations are intended to occur.
Why should we be expected to turn a blind eye, when it prevents us from doing one of the primary aspects of an MMO! Communicating and having conversations?
Im not after starting an arquement, I just want a genuine explanation about why that is expected of us by some players!
Why should we have to close the local chat to avoid spamming?
freekedoutfish
EternalTempest
The "culture" changed over time. If people avoided buying from local chat requests, sellers would refrain, it won't happen.
That being said, it's not my right to tell others how to play the game the way anet allows.
I choose myself (if I have local on even) to not buy anything advertised from the local chat.
And anet tried to with filters at least.. but every time anet would "tweak" the filter to catch the work around, new jargon would be developed to avoid it.
I do think Anet is addressing this with GW2, and auction/trade house plus more in place other thing's they've learned from and will attempt to put in to place to prevent it in yet to be unknown ways.
Lion's Arch is the *main* nexus for players in Tryia as well as cross travelers.
All *starting* cities is where new and existing players making new characters start out, there logical choices for that sort of thing.
Drak's Forge is also logical due to the "destination" of lvl 20 armor for the 1st time for Tryia characters.
That being said, it's not my right to tell others how to play the game the way anet allows.
I choose myself (if I have local on even) to not buy anything advertised from the local chat.
And anet tried to with filters at least.. but every time anet would "tweak" the filter to catch the work around, new jargon would be developed to avoid it.
I do think Anet is addressing this with GW2, and auction/trade house plus more in place other thing's they've learned from and will attempt to put in to place to prevent it in yet to be unknown ways.
Lion's Arch is the *main* nexus for players in Tryia as well as cross travelers.
All *starting* cities is where new and existing players making new characters start out, there logical choices for that sort of thing.
Drak's Forge is also logical due to the "destination" of lvl 20 armor for the 1st time for Tryia characters.
Commander Ryker
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If ever a thread is created to discuss spamming, you will always get a minority of people making the same comment...
"If you dont like spamming, then close the local chat and ignore it" ...but why should we have to? I've replied to alot of people who make those comments, and I'm yet to find any who give a good reason why we should just turn a blind eye and ignore it. So im asking now! Why should we have to ignore spamming and abuse of the chat channels, or abuse in general? Why, especially in capital cities where most of the population hang out, where most of the interaction happens and where conversations are intended to occur. Why should we be expected to turn a blind eye, when it prevents us from doing one of the primary aspects of an MMO! Communicating and having conversations? Im not after starting an arquement, I just want a genuine explanation about why that is expected of us by some players! |
korcan
you turn off local chat in major outposts because the trade system, for the most part, is broke.
wouldn't you also consider trading to be an important aspect of an mmo? im sure anet knows that their in-game trading system is a joke, so it would be stupid on their part to conduct wide, sweeping bans for people who choose to spam local and trade channels.
if you want something done about the spam, ask anet for further "trade improvements".
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if you want something done about the spam, ask anet for further "trade improvements".
fenix
I think that for now, accepting that the AD1 of major cities are the trading districts. Once they implement good trading changes (as they have said they will), it should work itself out 
Nebulaz
Must admit ive had to turn Local chat off (18 months ive been able to cope with it) its almost impossible to trade with it on now! WTS Unided GOLDZ!!!!!! macros kill me -_-
i find it alot easier to chat on the trade channel now.
*waits for the temp ignore list*
i find it alot easier to chat on the trade channel now.
*waits for the temp ignore list*
Commander Ryker
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you turn off local chat in major outposts because the trade system, for the most part, is broke.
wouldn't you also consider trading to be an important aspect of an mmo? im sure anet knows that their in-game trading system is a joke, so it would be stupid on their part to conduct wide, sweeping bans for people who choose to spam local and trade channels. if you want something done about the spam, ask anet for further "trade improvements". |
korcan
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Lets don't turn this thread into another whine about the trade system. There are already several other threads about that. Go do your whinning there.
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Theus
And its the right answer.
The trading system for this game is absolutely pathetic. And its absolutely pathetic that Anet cannot figure out how to fix it.
And no, it isn't an Auction house. It's something thats ingame but is completely useless, compared to using Allchat for trading. A simple increase of its character limit and you can implement bannings for people who spam constantly .Since, I would be FOR it. Theres another way of trading, and the reason for banning is justified if such a system was actually in place. But it isn't.
What's truly sad is that the people who complain about spammers are far too retarded to actually use their time and energy into telling Anet to fix Party Search, which in turn will actually make banning people for spamming a accepted action.
The trading system for this game is absolutely pathetic. And its absolutely pathetic that Anet cannot figure out how to fix it.
And no, it isn't an Auction house. It's something thats ingame but is completely useless, compared to using Allchat for trading. A simple increase of its character limit and you can implement bannings for people who spam constantly .Since, I would be FOR it. Theres another way of trading, and the reason for banning is justified if such a system was actually in place. But it isn't.
What's truly sad is that the people who complain about spammers are far too retarded to actually use their time and energy into telling Anet to fix Party Search, which in turn will actually make banning people for spamming a accepted action.
Locutas
I hate people selling in local , I have been put on a few ignore lists for doing this , but I enjoy it , especialy when ppl snap at me , but IF there message says " < > {W T Sell} mini pet Wisp offer < > " I keep wispering to them 100gold ... that way the ask why im doing it , i tell the to use the (words go here ) trade channel .... or just put in tc " WTS trade channel , barly used 50k ono " which usaly gets a comment or 2...
Commander Ryker
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the op asked why he has to turn off local chat to avoid spam and the reason is because the in-game trading system is broke. im not whining, im simply giving the op an answer.
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And its the right answer.
The trading system for this game is absolutely pathetic. And its absolutely pathetic that Anet cannot figure out how to fix it. And no, it isn't an Auction house. It's something thats ingame but is completely useless, compared to using Allchat for trading. A simple increase of its character limit and you can implement bannings for people who spam constantly .Since, I would be FOR it. Theres another way of trading, and the reason for banning is justified if such a system was actually in place. But it isn't. What's truly sad is that the people who complain about spammers are far too retarded to actually use their time and energy into telling Anet to fix Party Search, which in turn will actually make banning people for spamming a accepted action. |
I'll agree that the character limit in the party window is......well limited. But in this age of texting and shortcuts, most everyone is good at this, so kpng a msg shrt shld nt be a prblm.
Rather then whine about it, how about you just try and figure out how to use the system we have so that it will work for you. We are not going to get an auction house in GW1, there's no way that they are going to put any resources in that. I'm sure they will probably have an improved system in GW2 and then all you whiners can find something else to piss and moan about.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by korcan
you turn off local chat in major outposts because the trade system, for the most part, is broke.
wouldn't you also consider trading to be an important aspect of an mmo? im sure anet knows that their in-game trading system is a joke, so it would be stupid on their part to conduct wide, sweeping bans for people who choose to spam local and trade channels. if you want something done about the spam, ask anet for further "trade improvements". |
So again, how is it acceptable for traders to flood the all channel and completely deprive non-traders of being able to have conversations?
That means traders have 2 places to spam sales notices, while the casual player who just wants a conversation has no where! Sorry, but your reasoning about Anet not giving us a good trade system is wrong.
The trade system they provide works fine, the problems start when people abuse or refuse to use it. You cant blame the software, because the users abuse it.
This is my question...
...how is acceptable to spam the "all channel" with sales spams, when traders have a dedicated channel all for them?
Answer....
...the is none! There is no excuse to abuse the "all channel" to a degree that i cannot be used by non-traders. Yet non-traders are expected to simple turn off chat, and ignore it completely. We're expected to stand to one side, and give in to the sales and the trading.
Why?
GODh
Well, i prefer to answer the original question: Why should we have to close the local chat to avoid spamming?
I think the answer is: spammers can abuse the local chat and they dont care about what you and i think of it...
Only anet can fix this problem, but it seems they dont care...
All anet could think of was to move messages starting with WTS en WTB to the trade channel. So now we see W T S, iWTS, W>T<S, etc etc and the spammers keep continueing their lame business.
I have seen anough good/decent solutions in Sardelac (like disabling the "repeat old message" while in local chat and in a town/outpost), but nothing happens with those suggestions. Anet doesnt care (enough)
I think the answer is: spammers can abuse the local chat and they dont care about what you and i think of it...
Only anet can fix this problem, but it seems they dont care...
All anet could think of was to move messages starting with WTS en WTB to the trade channel. So now we see W T S, iWTS, W>T<S, etc etc and the spammers keep continueing their lame business.
I have seen anough good/decent solutions in Sardelac (like disabling the "repeat old message" while in local chat and in a town/outpost), but nothing happens with those suggestions. Anet doesnt care (enough)
Lydz
Sadly...
I can't handle it anymore.
I can't handle it anymore.
Thomas.knbk
If you're talking about trade spamming in local chat, that's pretty much just god damn homosexual and nothing else. People spam in local chat because people close trade chat (so you don't have to endure all the trade spam), but guess what; PEOPLE CLOSE TRADE CHAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN BUYING ANYTHING, AND YES, I SAID THAT IN CAPS!
/rant
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AxeMe
I'm not a great fan of spam. On the other hand, I'm always amused when outraged players spam local in a known trading area - LA1 or Kamaden1 - complaining about spam. At times, the complainers - using local - outnumber the traders who spam there.
For people who are really bothered by trade spam, there's no need to turn off local ... just hang out in districts where you're less likely to find spammers. Whether it's a good thing, or a bad thing, hanging out in one of the trade centers and being shocked at finding local spam is sort of like sticking your hand in the fire and being outraged that it burned you.
Why are these trading areas so crowded: I think it's because most players are there trying to sell or buy. Otherwise they'd be in a quieter area. Frankly the trade chat is what draws most people to those places.
For people who are really bothered by trade spam, there's no need to turn off local ... just hang out in districts where you're less likely to find spammers. Whether it's a good thing, or a bad thing, hanging out in one of the trade centers and being shocked at finding local spam is sort of like sticking your hand in the fire and being outraged that it burned you.
Why are these trading areas so crowded: I think it's because most players are there trying to sell or buy. Otherwise they'd be in a quieter area. Frankly the trade chat is what draws most people to those places.
Locutas
The SHOULD forgo the "Trade channel" lol .. and have a "Trade Zone" for buying and selling only ...1 zone purly for that ...A GRAND MARKET if you will , like the isle of trade , that all chars regardles of lvl can get to , (sort of like the temple of balthazar...)
freekedoutfish
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The SHOULD forgo the "Trade channel" lol .. and have a "Trade Zone" for buying and selling only ...1 zone purly for that ...A GRAND MARKET if you will , like the isle of trade , that all chars regardles of lvl can get to , (sort of like the temple of balthazar...)
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People will always flood to the busiest areas to trade, and if the trade towns or trade districts are empty....
...they go to the next, busiest place!
toddhd
I'd like to mention that the spamming problem not at all confined to trade. Everyone keeps bringing up the trade problem, and yes, its a problem, but its not the ONLY thing being spammed, and all spam is annoying. In the same places where trade is being spammed , I (repeatedly) see stuff like:
"Can someone lend me <insert amount of money> for <insert merchant item> ?"
"Running to <location> for <price>"
"<insert stupid comment here, ie. Who wants to see me dance?>"
"Join my lousy guild, free cape, all 2 members are awsome, 500 bucks to join..."
The public chat has gotten stupid anyway. I think the original intent was allow people to ask questions and get help, but now its all either spam or annoying teenager chat ("hey, your hot! wanna dance nekkid with me?") so honestly - I agree. Turn off the local chat. Your friends can still whisper you. Your guild and alliance can still message you. Whats so important on local chat that you need to have it open anyway?
By the way, is there some reason that ANet can't build a filter into the chat so that a message repeated less then 60 seconds after it was sent just doesn't show up?
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"Can someone lend me <insert amount of money> for <insert merchant item> ?"
"Running to <location> for <price>"
"<insert stupid comment here, ie. Who wants to see me dance?>"
"Join my lousy guild, free cape, all 2 members are awsome, 500 bucks to join..."
The public chat has gotten stupid anyway. I think the original intent was allow people to ask questions and get help, but now its all either spam or annoying teenager chat ("hey, your hot! wanna dance nekkid with me?") so honestly - I agree. Turn off the local chat. Your friends can still whisper you. Your guild and alliance can still message you. Whats so important on local chat that you need to have it open anyway?
By the way, is there some reason that ANet can't build a filter into the chat so that a message repeated less then 60 seconds after it was sent just doesn't show up?
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lennymon
why stop there? why not make folks heads go splody if >50% of any part of any message in any channel (including whisper) is repeated within 1 minute.
Kook~NBK~
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the op asked why he has to turn off local chat to avoid spam and the reason is because the in-game trading system is broke. im not whining, im simply giving the op an answer.
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What the morons don't realize is that 1: People who have turned off the trade chat don't want to buy anything in the first place. and 2: Because of their all-chat spam, people are turning OFF the all-chat, which means they're losing potential traders! And 3: There are lots of people who refuse to buy things (not enough) advertized on the all-chat channel, making them lose even more potential customers and making their stays in town longer.
Maybe a good, quick-fix solution would be for A-net to come up with a "you are being ignored" warning every time someone puts you on ignore, instead of you only finding out when you try to PM someone who's put you on ignore. The fact that would really suck to go into a town, start spamming and start getting "you have been put on ignore" over and over again because of your mis-behavior.
freekedoutfish
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Maybe a good, quick-fix solution would be for A-net to come up with a "you are being ignored" warning every time someone puts you on ignore, instead of you only finding out when you try to PM someone who's put you on ignore. The fact that would really suck to go into a town, start spamming and start getting "you have been put on ignore" over and over again because of your mis-behavior.
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If you mention your going to ignore someone, especially a spammer, their general attitude is this...
"The ignore list has a limit, so you'l have to take me off eventually, hahaha"
....does that give the impression that the ignore list is a deterant? It doesnt to me! Very simply because abusive players and spammers know you will eventually have to remove them if it gets full.
Yes there is the arguement that you dont meet enough abusive peopl ingame to warrant an increase, and that after a few days the chances of ever meeting that same player are slim so you can just remove them and make space.
But what if you add them on the list for good reason? why should you have to remove someone you added for legit reasons? You shouldnt!
If spammers knew that we could ignore as many people as we wanted, perminantly, then they realise "hmm... if I start spamming, everything in here will just ignore me, maybe I should cut back a bit!"
Theyd know that a player could enter LA, block every trade message in the local chat and filter it down to just normal conversations and then not have to worry about removing them later.
If every single player ingame did that, imagine how many people would get ignored within just a few days. People would soon realise spamming isnt within their best interests.
Spamming wont get dealt with unless we can take strong measures against it.
Yol
Last night I found myself in Ascalon City int dis, which in the past has been a good place for me to buy certain items from other players. The local chat was nothing but trade spam (messages repeated at least 5 times in a row, and all that). I made a couple comments about spamming and got some unprintable replies. Undeterred, I posted one message every 5 minutes in trade channel, alternating between wtb [item] and wts passage scrolls and elite tomes. My messages were lost in the sea of spam as they zipped up the chat box. I noticed that wts unid was a common one that appeared uniquely in local....some of them initiated trade with me without even asking and they were all gold armours, presumably with the runes already stripped from them.
Just before I logged off, I received the message "st*u noob and learn how to trade properly"......which made me laugh because in the space of that hour I'd had 7 players sell me various amounts of [item], and I'd sold all of the passage scrolls and elite tomes. The same spam messages I'd seen at the start of the hour were still there when I logged off.
I never buy anything from players who put trade messages in local channel, and never sell to them either. I never trade with spammers. If spamming worked, you wouldn't need to do it because you would have already sold your item. The trade channel works, it is not 'broken'. If a player has switched trade channel off, s/he is not going to be interested in trade messages appearing in local channel.
Just before I logged off, I received the message "st*u noob and learn how to trade properly"......which made me laugh because in the space of that hour I'd had 7 players sell me various amounts of [item], and I'd sold all of the passage scrolls and elite tomes. The same spam messages I'd seen at the start of the hour were still there when I logged off.
I never buy anything from players who put trade messages in local channel, and never sell to them either. I never trade with spammers. If spamming worked, you wouldn't need to do it because you would have already sold your item. The trade channel works, it is not 'broken'. If a player has switched trade channel off, s/he is not going to be interested in trade messages appearing in local channel.
Melei Hawke
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For people who are really bothered by trade spam, there's no need to turn off local ... just hang out in districts where you're less likely to find spammers. Whether it's a good thing, or a bad thing, hanging out in one of the trade centers and being shocked at finding local spam is sort of like sticking your hand in the fire and being outraged that it burned you.
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The only place I have been able to hold a general conversation recently is in places like the granite citidel, the bots don't talk and the rest of us can freely chat about them...
freekedoutfish
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Whether it's a good thing, or a bad thing, hanging out in one of the trade centers and being shocked at finding local spam is sort of like sticking your hand in the fire and being outraged that it burned you.
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We dont choose or ask for the spamming, so to say it should be expected and not to complain about it, isnt a solution or a positive attitude that will sort it out.
If you go to a supermarket, you expect the tills to be busy, and to have to wait to get served. But you still expect people to be polite and que up and take their time.
Would you accept it if you went to a supermarket and everyone was pushing into the checkout ques or everyone was fighting for the products on the shelf?
Would you accept it if you worked in a shop, and customers stood and shouted at you because you ran out of the product they wanted?
You could agrue that because you choose to work in a shop, you should expect to take abuse from customers because it happens and just stand there and take it.
But would you honestly do that? I worked in a shop for 4 years and I gave as good as I got all the time. We shouldnt be expected to just walk away and ignore spamming.
Regardless of whether we should expect capital cities to be busy and for there to be alot of messages. That doesnt mean people have a right to spam in capital cities because its "expected"!
Commander Ryker
I've more or less resigned myself to the fact that this is always going to happen, no matter what kind of trade system we have. People are just rude and ignorant and don't care about anyone but themselves.
We have the trade chat, but no one listened, so now they use the all chat, and no one listens. We were given the party search window, no one uses it because they apparently haven't figured out how to shorten words. Even if we had an auction house, there would still be idiots spamming that they have stuff for sale in the auction house.
The only way they are ever going to be able to put a stop to this is by banning everyone who spams, no matter where they are doing it and an extra long time if they are doing it in all chat.
We have the trade chat, but no one listened, so now they use the all chat, and no one listens. We were given the party search window, no one uses it because they apparently haven't figured out how to shorten words. Even if we had an auction house, there would still be idiots spamming that they have stuff for sale in the auction house.
The only way they are ever going to be able to put a stop to this is by banning everyone who spams, no matter where they are doing it and an extra long time if they are doing it in all chat.
draceena
I agree that it's rediculous that my ability to use All Chat has been taken away from me but in reality I'm not sure if it will ever truly get fixed.
When I first started playing Guild Wars 2 years ago (I was Beta Player as well), I remember having every chat line open, yes All Chat AND Trade chat and it was working fine. People kept Trade to Trade Channels, thoes who did not were gently and kindly reminded to use the Trade Chanel and this worked for awhile.
Then it seemed, the Trade Channel's started getting worse, more & more spam (repeated messages), so people, like me, started turning it off and even saying so to the spammers (I would see people telling the spammers in the trade chat to please stop the repeated message spam as they were not going to buy their items if they didn't stop).
Of course this didn't work and eventually the spam spread to the All Chat and this is where we are today. Unfortunately any kind of drive to make people use only the Trade Chat for it's purpose was mostly Player Driven, it wasn't untill much later that Anet finally stepped in and started forcing WTB and WTS to the Trade Channel, talk about a joke, a workaround was found right away. Then multi-messages were supressed so that it slowed down the spam (then it was later partly-recinded).
At this point I don't think we will ever be able to use All Chat again for it's intended purpose in every District ever again.
When I first started playing Guild Wars 2 years ago (I was Beta Player as well), I remember having every chat line open, yes All Chat AND Trade chat and it was working fine. People kept Trade to Trade Channels, thoes who did not were gently and kindly reminded to use the Trade Chanel and this worked for awhile.
Then it seemed, the Trade Channel's started getting worse, more & more spam (repeated messages), so people, like me, started turning it off and even saying so to the spammers (I would see people telling the spammers in the trade chat to please stop the repeated message spam as they were not going to buy their items if they didn't stop).
Of course this didn't work and eventually the spam spread to the All Chat and this is where we are today. Unfortunately any kind of drive to make people use only the Trade Chat for it's purpose was mostly Player Driven, it wasn't untill much later that Anet finally stepped in and started forcing WTB and WTS to the Trade Channel, talk about a joke, a workaround was found right away. Then multi-messages were supressed so that it slowed down the spam (then it was later partly-recinded).
At this point I don't think we will ever be able to use All Chat again for it's intended purpose in every District ever again.
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The SHOULD forgo the "Trade channel" lol .. and have a "Trade Zone" for buying and selling only ...1 zone purly for that ...A GRAND MARKET if you will , like the isle of trade , that all chars regardles of lvl can get to , (sort of like the temple of balthazar...)
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Lonesamurai
I've had the local channel turned off pretty much since I started playing (and the trade channel for that matter) and only have it open when I do a show from in game or I'm in the guild hall and guildies are talking in local so teams can get set up for scrimms etc...
The only difference between now and the beginning is the spam has gotten worse and more frequent, but its always been there
The only difference between now and the beginning is the spam has gotten worse and more frequent, but its always been there
freekedoutfish
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A market zone is not the solution. As trader I don't only want to trade with other traders, but also hope that bypassers will read my trade message and make the trade if they want. If course, I only use the trade channel for my WTB/WTS messages, but many don't do this.
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Brain storm - they turn off the trade channel because they dont want to trade.
I find that an extremely worrying attitude and perfect example of why we have spam in the all channel. Your trying to justify trading in the all channel to get the attention of players, who have purposely turned off the trade channel to avoid trading!
How is the excusable?
Its like when your mobbed in the street by a women with a clipboard, trying to sign you up to a clothes catalogue. If I wanted to buy clothes, I would go to a clothes store!
Their annoying as hell, and we all try to avoid them with "sorry im busy"!
I appreciate you want to reach as large a market as you can, but if these people were even slightly interested in buying anything they would turn the trade channel on.
Do you not care that you're need to reach as large a market as possible, is preventing people from actually communicating?
You've stated you only post WTB and WTS in the trade channel, which I find confusing (besides the obvious filter). What is it your posting in the all channel? are you just re-wording it so it doesnt involve the usual trade lingo? Trade messages are trade messages regardless of how you word them.
freekedoutfish
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I've had the local channel turned off pretty much since I started playing (and the trade channel for that matter) and only have it open when I do a show from in game or I'm in the guild hall and guildies are talking in local so teams can get set up for scrimms etc...
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Now its laughable to try and communicate with anything other then trade messages.
Lonesamurai
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Thats true, but 18 months ago (when I started) you could atleast pick out a conversation on LA district 1 and talk to people.
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Locutas
Exelent NEWS today peps .... look at news when you log in .... There finaly cracking down ... ABOUT TIME eh... Soz I cant find were it is on guildwars.com , but , it is a very good thing...
freekedoutfish
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Exelent NEWS today peps .... look at news when you log in .... There finaly cracking down ... ABOUT TIME eh... Soz I cant find were it is on guildwars.com , but , it is a very good thing...
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"Players are reminded that the All (Local) Chat Channel is intended for social activities, and the Trade Channel is provided for all trade activities. Players using the All Chat Channel for trade spam are subject to an account mark. See the Conduct Breaches and Outcomes document on www.guildwars.com for more information. "
Hoorahhh!
Etta
Victory for Fishey and most people in Guild Wars. Today all chat, tomorrow leecher!
Locutas
Ty for that Fish .... much appriciated 8)
Gawa
*punches fist in the air and does a jig* Arighty!
THANKS ANet!
See...they do listen to us.. we asked for Anet to add a note about the crackdown on spam, to inform more people, in the other thread.. and they did it.. remember that guys
Being sensible and polite with solid reasonings when we present a request/solution to Anet...goes a long way to being listened to.
Once again, nice work to all ANet staffers who take the time and effort to read our forums
THANKS ANet!
See...they do listen to us.. we asked for Anet to add a note about the crackdown on spam, to inform more people, in the other thread.. and they did it.. remember that guys
Being sensible and polite with solid reasonings when we present a request/solution to Anet...goes a long way to being listened to.
Once again, nice work to all ANet staffers who take the time and effort to read our forums
Masseur
Nice to be able to actually CHAT in the district 1 of any town, like Lion's Arch and not see your message scroll off the screen almost before you take your finger off the enter key.
/close as the OP's message is moot now
/close as the OP's message is moot now