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Zomgyogi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

In a park

27 May 2007 at 06:36 - 1

Well i have seen quite a few ppl trying to do the scam in Thirsty river this week. I was scammed about a month ago and lost about 100k. Just letting people know if someone trys to tell you that they can duplicate an item by going to the Thirsy River Mission don't listen to them ITS A SCAM. I saw someone earlier today got scammed by this. One scammer in particular trying to do this is
Just giving a heads up to all the people who dont know about this.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

27 May 2007 at 06:43 - 2

First off: No names! (against forum rules)

Second: Scammers suck, but people should understand that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is a scam.

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

27 May 2007 at 06:44 - 3

I can't believe people still believe in dupes. Dupes only exist in D2.

Trevor

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Team Flamingo [FFs]

E/Mo

27 May 2007 at 06:46 - 4

If you get scammed in Guild Wars, you deserve it.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

27 May 2007 at 06:52 - 5

*writes name down before it's wiped off*

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

27 May 2007 at 07:03 - 6

No people do not deserve to be scammed. For crying out loud we are not all as smart as you. If you haven't looked lately this is a pretty complicated game. It takes many hours of play to learn all the ways to play this game. It is pretty easy to get scammed. But you have to learn to be careful and not trust anyone. Kind of like real life. Because people would rather cheat than play the game.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

27 May 2007 at 07:16 - 7

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

27 May 2007 at 07:40 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor

If you get scammed in Guild Wars, you deserve it.

That's very unfair, a lot of people get scammed before they really understand the game. They've added a lot of helpful little features to try and reduce scamming, but it still happens. When I first started playing the game, I bought a customised weapon without realising what it meant. I only lost about 2k, but at that point it seemed like a lot of money, and I almost stopped playing the game. It's a shame so many people in the GW community decide to be compelte jerks just to make a bit of money.

And yet, there are still people who wonder why some of us play this purely as a single player game.

Melei Hawke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

SoF

R/Mo

27 May 2007 at 07:49 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor

If you get scammed in Guild Wars, you deserve it.

Unfortunately Guild Wars mirrors life and there are scammers in both. People do not deserve to get scammed. Some may be looking for a easy out...many that play are kids. It is a shame that they get away with it! If I am in a town and I see someone trying to mislead or scam I call them on it...I have had many scammers get angry with me but I have also had many people whisper me and thank me for giving them the heads up.

Shame on you for saying people deserve it...

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

27 May 2007 at 07:56 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

That's very unfair, a lot of people get scammed before they really understand the game. They've added a lot of helpful little features to try and reduce scamming, but it still happens. When I first started playing the game, I bought a customised weapon without realising what it meant. I only lost about 2k, but at that point it seemed like a lot of money, and I almost stopped playing the game. It's a shame so many people in the GW community decide to be compelte jerks just to make a bit of money.

And yet, there are still people who wonder why some of us play this purely as a single player game.

Victim in this particual scam is not inncoent at all. This is not where scamer pretends that mursasat tokens are ectoes (why wasnt graphics fixed?) or where you are coned to buying customized stuff.

Scamer didnt abuse scamees lack of knowledge or not paying attention. He abused his greed.

Seriosuly, if you get scamed because you wanted to dupe, you deserve this harsh lesson.

---

On realted note, why on the earth would you believe that someone who can dupe is going to show how to do it to complete stranger?

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

27 May 2007 at 08:07 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks Dawnbringer

Because people would rather cheat than play the game.

This brings up a good point because most of the major scams in the game are because people want a run or get max items before they actually play to those areas. So sometimes I do believe people should be a little bit smarter and they won't get scammed there are some times when I think they deserve it because they do the same thing over and over and get scammed everytime, so if you aren't smart enough to get it the first time than you deserve what you get. Too many people bitch about being scammed through runners etc, and yet they are cheating themselves because they aren't actually playing the game.

If you want to take the shortcut deal with the consequences.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

27 May 2007 at 08:09 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Seriosuly, if you get scamed because you wanted to dupe, you deserve this harsh lesson.

Completely agree. It's equivalent to being told you can steal XX amount of money from the bank by routing your funds through some account. Then doing that and having all your money drained from your account. You gonna bitch to the cops about how you were scammed while attempting robbery? Ha!

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

27 May 2007 at 08:16 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomgyogi

Well i have seen quite a few ppl trying to do the scam in Thirsty river this week. I was scammed about a month ago and lost about 100k. Just letting people know if someone trys to tell you that they can duplicate an item by going to the Thirsy River Mission don't listen to them ITS A SCAM. I saw someone earlier today got scammed by this. One scammer in particular trying to do this is [name removed]

Just giving a heads up to all the people who dont know about this.

Congratulations, your an idiot! I agree that anet should punish the scammers, in case like this where it clearly is a scam. But you should also be punished, using exploits is also against the rules. And no mercy should be shown because your stupid enough to get scammed attempting something that would break the rules.

And your also an Idiot for posting a name on a forum that does not allow unauthorised name posting.

2 for 2!

WTS magic beans, PM me your offer!

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

27 May 2007 at 08:17 - 14

Even if you'd believe this, why put in 100K the first time? You could just as well first try it out with a random salvage item or something...

Really, being scammed in Guildwars is really hard. Don't you watch trades over XX platinum a bit extra just to make sure you get what you think you'll get?

I agree with WinterSnowblind partially though. Scams like selling customized items to newbies is just sad, and the people who are being scammed can't do very much about it if they don't know the system of customization.

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

27 May 2007 at 08:24 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu

WTS magic beans, PM me your offer!

Woah!
Magic beans ........ I'm PMing you my offer ...... now!

/Angelica

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

27 May 2007 at 08:30 - 16

Comming to a message board complaining you got scammed while trying to cheat is not going to ever get you very far.

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

27 May 2007 at 08:50 - 17

If he get scammed, then he deserve it.

First, if he's a newbie, then he doesn't possess enough money to be the target of scammers. If he's not new, then he probably already aware of potential scams.

Razorblade Monkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

A/

27 May 2007 at 08:52 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

That's very unfair, a lot of people get scammed before they really understand the game. They've added a lot of helpful little features to try and reduce scamming, but it still happens. When I first started playing the game, I bought a customised weapon without realising what it meant. I only lost about 2k, but at that point it seemed like a lot of money, and I almost stopped playing the game. It's a shame so many people in the GW community decide to be compelte jerks just to make a bit of money.

And yet, there are still people who wonder why some of us play this purely as a single player game.

AMEN!

Scammers are the tormenting hell of this game. Get a life you pathetic people, seriously. This is not a 100% proven formular, but in alot of cases, peoples ingame behaviour to some degree reflects their rl behaviour. So in otherwords, dishonest ingame = dishonest in rl. And for most part, dishonesty gets it's deserving place, thankfully...

Getting scammed in GW is not a deserved thing. Yes some people could be more wary than they are, but how do they deserve it? If they themselves are a scammer, then get scammed, then yes! They deserve it! But your casual player who thinks they're getting a good deal to get a little 'leg-up' in the GW food chain doesn't deserve to lose their hard earned cash/items to greedy dishonest mofo. There are many rl occasions where honest hard working people get screwed by greedy, lowlife, conscienceless bastards, so how is an online game with real players any different?

When we have "real people" who buy online games soley to scam other real people, that says so much about the sort of person they are deep down. Even if they aren't as dishonest in rl as they are ingame (only through fear of consequences to themselves, not through the guilt of harming other human beings), if they even consider being dishonest ingame, then it's pretty safe to say that deep down they are/can be a dishonest person.

I have not and will never scam anyone in GW (or anywhere online), because in my first 2 weeks of playing I got burnt twice, and have since been very wary. And more to the point, I am a firm believer in the "what goes around comes around" "do unto others" formular...

well, my 2 cents is spent... =oP

Zomgyogi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

In a park

27 May 2007 at 08:53 - 19

Well I have only been plaing GW for about 2 months. So at the time i had no idea what it was.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

27 May 2007 at 08:58 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomgyogi

Well I have only been plaing GW for about 2 months. So at the time i had no idea what it was.

But hey, you were willing to jump on an exploit to make some extra cash, huh?

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

27 May 2007 at 09:01 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomgyogi

Well I have only been plaing GW for about 2 months. So at the time i had no idea what it was.

Something smells here!

You had only been playing for 2months, already had 100k to throw around. Was just idle around Thirty River and wanted to cheat the game by creating a dup of an item or weapon!

And your expecting us to believe it was all innocent? and not your fault?

100K 2months in, over the period of 3months?
Only been playing for 2 months.
Was scammed a month ago.
And you had no idea what a scam was or how it worked? An you were totally clueless about the rules?

I smell BS.

I think we should all agree to let this sad example of a thread die!

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

27 May 2007 at 09:30 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorblade Monkey

And more to the point, I am a firm believer in the "what goes around comes around" "do unto others" formular...

well, my 2 cents is spent... =oP

Yes I love thinking of it that way also. I've been playing GW almost since BETA and I've seen a lot of scams, fallen for a lot of them too. So when I see a scammer in game I try to play a long with their little scam. I try to act like a newb. It is so fun and just makes your day when you call the scammer on their little scam. And then send the I'm going to report you whisper. It's so funny when they freak out. Usually you can tell if it's a kid or an older person doing the scam. The younger ones freak out and beg you not to report them and the older ones just cuss you out really.

To the OP, I've been scammed as have the majority of us, learn from your mistakes and move on don't bring it to the forums, because we've all been scammed we've all seen the scammer threads. When you've been scammed just tell yourself that you were stupid and learn from it. That's what I did everytime I fell for a scam, I got mad and said, "Man that was stupid of me." It made me more aware of my trades and I still check the trade windows atleast about 3 times before hitting accept. Everytime I get a run or ferry I try to pay afterward and if not I'll just find a different runner. And as stated above, you tend to know what's a scam and what's not later on, and then it is so fun to catch a scammer and call them on it.

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

27 May 2007 at 12:37 - 23

you had 100K and you thought such and exploit exsists?

DKS

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Texas

Psycho Titans

R/

27 May 2007 at 12:51 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomgyogi

Well I have only been plaing GW for about 2 months. So at the time i had no idea what it was.

Hold on, hold on, I just wanna make sure I'm getting this right. Lemme see, first, you were only playing 2 months yet managed to rack up 100k? Pretty impressive, I know players who've been playing for 4 months now, and have maybe 10k to their name. Now, I KNOW you didn't get that 100k just by casual playing, which means you must have either done some pretty serious farming, or bought your gold. Now, anyone who goes from total newb to 100k in "about 2 months" is either brilliantly creative and not dumb enough to fall for such an obvious scam, is smart enough to read forums and sites like Guildwiki and should already be aware of obvious scams like that, or buys gold, in which case, has money to burn and shouldn't be taking his chances on obvious scams when he could just buy what he needed or could just buy enough to recoup his losses. Now, I'm not sure what category you fall into, but whichever of the 3 it was, it's really kinda hard to feel sorry for ya. Now, before you go thinking we're done here, I wanna move on to point number 2. Namely, that by your own admission, you were scammed because you were trying to CHEAT. And you want sympathy for that? Probably not a point in your favor there champ. Okay, I know, you claim you "didn't know what it was"? Pretty interesting excuse that one. "Sorry officer, that guy had NO RIGHT to tackle me and make me bruise my arm. I mean, I didn't know it was illegal to grab that old lady's purse and run off with it!". Yeah, you'll go far with that one. I mean, what, you thought Anet just one day said "hey, let's put a way to duplicate items out in Thirsty River!", and then ALSO thought that if such a method DID exist as a legimate part of the game, there wouldn't be hundreds of players congregating in Thirsty River to dupe their ectos, shards, sup vigors, black dyes, perfect weapon mods, etc etc etc? Did I miss any key points chief?

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

27 May 2007 at 13:49 - 25

Boo hoo. You got scammed. The only way to learn your lesson about taking shortcuts in GW is to get scammed. If someone says they want the money upfront don't do it. If someone asks to see the money thats ok. If you want something w/o having to work to get it be prepared for the possibility of getting scammed. *lol* I can't believe you fell for a get rich quick scheme.

I don't believe you can get good enough in 2 months to have 100k. If you buy your gold off the interweb then you obviously have enough RL money to easily replace 100k.

Either you're lying about being scammed or you're a really bad consumer.

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

27 May 2007 at 14:06 - 26

Heh well I'd like to point out one thing here that I think the previous 2 posters have not seen,
the guy claimed that he was scammed a month ago
Also that he has only played for 2 months,
that means he has somehow managed to make 100K in one month not two.

When I started it took me over amonth just to get to thirsty river, admitely I was uncovering the map as i went along, and doing bonus missions too, but I didnt get anywhere near 100K untill i got a couple of lucky chest drops and sold very rare weapons,
most farming is time consuming and involves having elites. I can't see anyone getting that kind of money in one month unless they play the game 24/7. Also I do tend to play this game most of the day, so its not like I was only on a couple of hours a day.

Therefore, this poster seems to be cheating himself, which seems likely as he is trying to duplicate items

There is also the point that you can't con an honest man, if it seems to be too good to be true then it isn't. Like others have said, in these circumstances they deserved it

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

27 May 2007 at 16:11 - 27

Well 100k in a month is possible for a new player. I did it back when I was new but then again i was also playing at least 12 hours a day . ..

Anyways, why even try to dupe 100k in the first place? for one thing, you wouldn't have been able to pick up 2 piles of 100k . ..

Second of all, why complain that you got scammed when you were trying to cheat the game in the first place?

If you did make 100k legitimately (ie no gold buying) then I would expect you to be able to spot scams.

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

27 May 2007 at 16:46 - 28

To the OP and anyone who falls for this scam:

<nelson>

HA HA!

</nelson>

you got what you deserved.

and not all victims of scammers deserve it....if you believe that then I bet you're the type of person that would scam people yourself.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

R/

27 May 2007 at 16:57 - 29

Looks like Zomgyogi Ftw is due for some GW vacation. LOL

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php

Quote:

19.You will not exploit any bug in Guild Wars and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Guild Wars. Bugs should be promptly reported via "Ask a Question" at http://support.guildwars.com.

Here is another good link

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Common_scams

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

27 May 2007 at 18:47 - 30

I'm not going to bother pointing out all the flaws in the op as many have already done.
And normally I would never say this, but anyone who's been scammed this way deserves it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder79

To the OP and anyone who falls for this scam:

<nelson>

HA HA!

</nelson>

LOL I love the Simpsons.

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

27 May 2007 at 19:29 - 31

I feel sorry for people getting scammed, but if you get scammed by someone offering you to "dupe" you deserve it in my opinion.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

27 May 2007 at 19:46 - 32

LOL This thread is as funny as this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=H1P3uvKupxg

Seriously though, people should read guildwiki or other reliable sources of info for guildwars. That will prevent scamming as well as other mistakes.

Andisa Kalorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[PMS]

27 May 2007 at 21:00 - 33

oooooh I remember this type of scam. Someone tried to use it on me a while ago. I was trying to buy a bone dragon, and they thought I was selling and wanted me to "dupe" it... I just put him on ignore. And lol the insults that followed. Apparently he switched accounts and sent me a message calling me fat and insulting my male sexuality and whatnot... which I laughed about for a long time because I'm neither fat nor male. Oh good times. Then I ignored his other account and he was gone.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

27 May 2007 at 21:50 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorblade Monkey

AMEN!

Scammers are the tormenting hell of this game. Get a life you pathetic people, seriously. This is not a 100% proven formular, but in alot of cases, peoples ingame behaviour to some degree reflects their rl behaviour. So in otherwords, dishonest ingame = dishonest in rl. And for most part, dishonesty gets it's deserving place, thankfully...
Getting scammed in GW is not a deserved thing. Yes some people could be more wary than they are, but how do they deserve it? If they themselves are a scammer, then get scammed, then yes! They deserve it! But your casual player who thinks they're getting a good deal to get a little 'leg-up' in the GW food chain doesn't deserve to lose their hard earned cash/items to greedy dishonest mofo. There are many rl occasions where honest hard working people get screwed by greedy, lowlife, conscienceless bastards, so how is an online game with real players any different?

When we have "real people" who buy online games soley to scam other real people, that says so much about the sort of person they are deep down. Even if they aren't as dishonest in rl as they are ingame (only through fear of consequences to themselves, not through the guilt of harming other human beings), if they even consider being dishonest ingame, then it's pretty safe to say that deep down they are/can be a dishonest person.

I have not and will never scam anyone in GW (or anywhere online), because in my first 2 weeks of playing I got burnt twice, and have since been very wary. And more to the point, I am a firm believer in the "what goes around comes around" "do unto others" formular...

well, my 2 cents is spent... =oP

When have you ever seen in the real world someone thats mean, dishonest, selfish, greedy and plain crule get what they trully deserve?

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

28 May 2007 at 00:55 - 35

Why would you want to duplicate an item in the first place? Greed's got the better of you, hasn't it? Well live and learn, here have half a cookie.

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

28 May 2007 at 01:56 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melei Hawke

I call them on it..

You scammed a stammer out of his scam?

undeadpolice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

28 May 2007 at 07:15 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeniM

When have you ever seen in the real world someone thats mean, dishonest, selfish, greedy and plain crule get what they trully deserve?

That will Never Happen! I seen backstabber, hundreds of dishonest greedy A55holes who only wan your money and very cunning supervisors who put their own men in deep shlt just to save their ass and always get away with things.

In Real Life... Today they scram, cheat, Backstab or put u in deep shlt tomorrow u'll see them getting alway with your money with fancy cars living in big housing and super hot chicks crowding around as u see him spending the your money like water going down the drain and putting your cash that he has scam u in between the burst line of those chicks or G-strings and he got score everyday in office/home/hotel while u spend your time regretting at home or in a bar(if u still have some cash left) .

How to prevent this from happen??? Learn the ways of scamming u also have know how to be very cunning(no I'm not kidding!)
Why learn learn them??? Because If u read Art or War u should know this phase "Know yourself and Know your enemy" (written in Chinese)
Of coz I dun aspect u guys to scam or something like that but if u know those.. who knows if he try something on u.. U still can strike him back twice the pain and let him feel the pain.

Here my advice to those poor souls out there.

Ludo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

28 May 2007 at 07:33 - 38

I have to say I agree with the multitude of posters here... you were scammed because you were too greedy. Did you actually give him 100k or an item worth 100k? Did it occur to you that anyone who could dupe items or cash in that amount could simply do it all day long with no need to sell his/her services?

L.J

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Brisbane

Blades Of The Dingo[AUST]

A/

28 May 2007 at 07:53 - 39

Well I think these 'scammers' may word what they are saying so it doesnt exactly sound like "hey im gonna go dupe your item". And even if the op was trying to cheat through the system, even if he is lieing about the length of time played, the money, or if he does buy gold still takes abit of balls to come on forum and actually inform people about this going on and the fact that he was stupid enough to fall for it himself. I dont think hes looking for your sympathy, more just trying to tell others so they dont fall for it also.

Anphobia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Me

28 May 2007 at 13:27 - 40

Sorry but was there some kind of bug at one point where items COULD be "dupe'd" or is it just something completely made up? I'm curious.

(not that I'd use it anyway, scamming FTL.)