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| 5) ELIGIBILITY: This sweepstakes is open only to legal residents of Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom, (...) |
Thank you, once again!
European Sweepstakes is here!
Zappa
Yes! After the announcement of the American Sweepstakes, the European version is here! I'm going to run and sign... oh wait.
Thank you, once again!
Thank you, once again!
onerabbit
so whats a sweeptake? 
fenix
WTB Australasian Sweepstakes please
Amon Warrior
Tough break Zappa. And Portugal is right next to Spain.
Sweepstakes only for rich countries, eh?
I mean, there shouldn't be much of a problem to send a lousy prize to any EU or schengen countries (such is the case of Switzerland)
I thought ANet was better than this...
Sweepstakes only for rich countries, eh?
I mean, there shouldn't be much of a problem to send a lousy prize to any EU or schengen countries (such is the case of Switzerland)
I thought ANet was better than this...
Amon Warrior
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Originally Posted by onerabbit
so whats a sweeptake?
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At least that's the explanation from Google. Type "define" followed by the word you're looking for.
TiNkLeR
portugal cant participate... whats up with that?
Hengis
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Originally Posted by Amon Warrior
A lottery in which winners are randomly selected, often used to induce purchase of a product.
At least that's the explanation from Google. Type "define" followed by the word you're looking for. |
To win you have to guess the number of people who enter the competition and the closest to the actual number win the prizes.
Incidently, the word "sweepstake" has a slightly different meaning depending on which side of the Atlantic you are on.
The US version implies a randomly chosen winner of a prize, usually used as a promotional or marketing tool by a company. In The UK this would usually be called a "Prize Draw"
The British version of a sweepstake is a usually some kind of competition where the prize is funded from the cost of entering.
For example, we often have a Grand National Sweepstake, where people pay say £2 to pick a random horse in the annual Grand National horse race, and the people who pick the first to fourth placed horses win a prize that is made up of all the entry costs. There is no profit made by the organiser as all the money is given to the winners.
Aussie Boy
Yeah why ain't Oz included.
Zappa
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Tough break Zappa. And Portugal is right next to Spain.
Sweepstakes only for rich countries, eh? I mean, there shouldn't be much of a problem to send a lousy prize to any EU or schengen countries (such is the case of Switzerland) I thought ANet was better than this... |
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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
The European "Sweepstake" isn't actually a sweepstake. It is just a competition, as the winners are not randomly selected.
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Elena
winning this would be nice then i can finally throw my old worn out rustheap and get a real gaming rig ^^ i can hope hehe feel sorry for you country's left out 
*hugs*
*hugs*
Amon Warrior
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Originally Posted by Zappa
Yes, he's right. In the American version you only entered personal details to enter, while in the British-Swiss-Swedish-Spanish-Norwegian-Dutch-Italian-German-French-Danish-Belgian-Austrian version of the promotion, a correct answer to a question is needed to enter.
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This competition is a disservice to ANet.
It's a poorly made patchwork to Europe over the Sweepstakes in the US.
Diddy bow
i entered even though i dont have the slightest clue how many will enter this 
filouzophe
Just signed up and on the form you can choose all (well it looked like all) European countries including Portugal. This seems to contradict the rules but it might still work.
Gaile Gray
Just a little bit of background: Before we start a contest or sweepstakes, we get a legal review to make sure we're abiding by the law. (There are a lot of laws for contests and sweepstakes.) The legal reviews are time-consuming and can be very expensive. Now, in countries where we have legal counsel, we can obtain this review as part of the services that our legal counsel already provides. But in countries in which we don't have legal counsel, we're in the position of having to pay a significant amount of money to obtain that legal advice and, in some areas, we're also asked to pay money to the government for the privilege of offering free items to their citizens.
Now, it's just not practical to pay $100,000 or more for those global legal reviews. (And sadly, that amount is not an exaggeration!) We do what we can to obtain the broadest number of reviews and approvals, but in the end, there will be restrictions or we will blow the budget on the reviews and have nothing left for prizes.
Our partners at NCsoft Europe are the sponsors of the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes. I am sure that they got reviews and approvals in as many countries as they were able to do so, just as we got as many as we could for the individual states and provinces of the US and Canada. (We have an exception as well, in the form of a province that is a common exception to such contests because the government requires waiting periods and fees.)
I would imagine the question in the European sweepstakes is part of the structure do to their legal reviews. Perhaps the question makes it possible to offer the sweepstakes in some or all of the countries, as opposed to a random drawing? I am truly unsure about this, but having been made aware of some laws concerning contests, this seems a possibility, anyway.
So Zappa, I'm really sorry about Portugal not being included. I know that NCE was working hard to include as many countries as possible. I hope that this explanation helps explain the situation.
Now, it's just not practical to pay $100,000 or more for those global legal reviews. (And sadly, that amount is not an exaggeration!) We do what we can to obtain the broadest number of reviews and approvals, but in the end, there will be restrictions or we will blow the budget on the reviews and have nothing left for prizes.
Our partners at NCsoft Europe are the sponsors of the European "Return to Tyria" Sweepstakes. I am sure that they got reviews and approvals in as many countries as they were able to do so, just as we got as many as we could for the individual states and provinces of the US and Canada. (We have an exception as well, in the form of a province that is a common exception to such contests because the government requires waiting periods and fees.)
I would imagine the question in the European sweepstakes is part of the structure do to their legal reviews. Perhaps the question makes it possible to offer the sweepstakes in some or all of the countries, as opposed to a random drawing? I am truly unsure about this, but having been made aware of some laws concerning contests, this seems a possibility, anyway.
So Zappa, I'm really sorry about Portugal not being included. I know that NCE was working hard to include as many countries as possible. I hope that this explanation helps explain the situation.
Renegade26
I didnt realies the first question was important, and so my guess will be guessed by many others as well, because it is simple. So I cannot win tbh. Can I re enter again somehow?
summer_goth
It really sucks living in a third world country...
Onarik Amrak
But what about Australia and New Zealand?
Traveller
A lot of Finnish gamers not included. Heck, few of the top PvP guilds are Finnish! Not that I even know what this is about, but I'd still like to be included!
crimsonfilms
So much crying over an optional contest, done in good will I might add, by people who have no clue whatsoever about international laws and regulations.
So cry more - I'm sure your government will change the law just for you.
I'm sure there will be a lot of 'Sorry Anet, I was wrong for assuming bunch a stuff I have no idea about' in this thread after Gaile's post.
So cry more - I'm sure your government will change the law just for you.
I'm sure there will be a lot of 'Sorry Anet, I was wrong for assuming bunch a stuff I have no idea about' in this thread after Gaile's post.
Zappa
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It really sucks living in a third world country...
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I thank Gaile for the swift and convincing explanation and I feel I've complained to the wrong people, but then again, I know nothing. All I see is, every time there's a 'contest' of this kind, it's always directed to the same countries. Since you sell your game in many other places, I think you should be expecting this kind if reactions, even more when the players know they can actually make their message reach who they want it to reach.
I never knew about any law, here, that prohibited this kind of promotions, maybe I'm more ignorant than I thought I were? Are we that different from the rest of Europe? Well, legally at least. I always thought we had more in common with most of Europe than Switzerland, for example. However, it's just me thinking.
In the context of your reply, Mrs. Gaile, I don't think NCSoft even considered including portugal in the list. Why care about it, if they can start the contest right away, and have enough countries to promote it? The main Europe is covered, "lets move on to Asia now."
And if it costs them money, well, I can just sit and wait... Yes, makes me a bit sad, and I perfectly know that using my small right and privilege of expressing my opinion is worthless to the situation, but I still use it. So I'm not expecting (and I shouldn't expect) anything to change because of me or any other person that plays GW in an 'odd' location. I just, obviously hope that, some other time in a similar occasion, whoever is responsible remembers "us", the misplaced GW players.
So, I'm not saying I'm sorry, as I did nothing wrong, I'm just saying what I think about these 'promotions'. No gaming magazine contents, no 'lottery' prizes, nothing. Don't get me wrong I'm not asking you deliberately to give me stuff, but it just makes me wonder, it's not that we're Kazakhstan or something. What mysterious rules do we have that keep us from enjoying some of the banal commodities that our associate countries benefit?
Cheers, and good luck to those who can participate anyway.
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So much crying over an optional contest, done in good will I might add, by people who have no clue whatsoever about international laws and regulations.
So cry more - I'm sure your government will change the law just for you. I'm sure there will be a lot of 'Sorry Anet, I was wrong for assuming bunch a stuff I have no idea about' in this thread after Gaile's post. |
Rampager
No Australasia as usual
Perynne
I was so looking forward to this ever since the American Sweepstakes was announced, but... oh well. Finland can't enter. I can understand the reasons though, we have some really weird contest/gift laws over here.
Good luck to those who can enter.
Good luck to those who can enter.
fenix
Hopefully they do something nice for Australians, we've gotten the sharp end of the stick because EB Games charge $80-$90 ($100 for Collectors Edition) for new chapters on release. Now I'm not an expert on the exchange rates, but that's a BIG difference to what Americans are paying.
summer_goth
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Zappa I wasn't being sarcastic. I live in a third world country. Here in Africa, forgotten by the rest of the world.
I understand the reasons as to why we can't enter the sweepstakes. It is however rather disappointing, even frustrating, because down here we can't enter any competitions anywhere.
And Zappa, I am the same. I hate so many things about South Africa, yet I am rather proud to be a South African. Somewhere along the line I must have been brainwashed...
Psuedo Halgoen
So I shouldn't have entered this competition. OPPPPss~
I just assumed that us Australians would be included, and I didn't read the fine print.
Take my vote of 26358 off the list please!
I just assumed that us Australians would be included, and I didn't read the fine print.
Take my vote of 26358 off the list please!
Anarion Silverhand
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But what about Australia and New Zealand?
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Also puzzled as to why Finland wasn't included as Traveller says. But I appreciate that Denmark was included, although I'm pretty sure it has a very small player-base.
Amon Warrior
And to think that EU countries have so many things standardized but not ones such as these...
As much as I appreciate Gaile's assessment over the situation, rules and regulations don't entirely explain that very selective ensemble of European countries. They certainly got the main bulk of their European player base.
As of this moment, is ArenaNet(or NCSOFT) taking into consideration other European countries to be included in future promotions? Or are the excluded to be contended with no more than future expansions and versions of the game?
I do hope that Anet will get to the point that their contests will encompass ALL EU countries.
In that regard, the same for our fellow players in Australasia and Africa.
And this comes from a wandering Portuguese who just happens to be working in China.
As much as I appreciate Gaile's assessment over the situation, rules and regulations don't entirely explain that very selective ensemble of European countries. They certainly got the main bulk of their European player base.
As of this moment, is ArenaNet(or NCSOFT) taking into consideration other European countries to be included in future promotions? Or are the excluded to be contended with no more than future expansions and versions of the game?
I do hope that Anet will get to the point that their contests will encompass ALL EU countries.
In that regard, the same for our fellow players in Australasia and Africa.
And this comes from a wandering Portuguese who just happens to be working in China.
Terra Xin
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Although I do understand your concern, I personally would find it odd to see Australia and New Zealand included in the European Sweepstakes..
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Well I don't know about you guys, but the part where you enter in the name of the country that you are from (the drop down menu) - it has a list of all countries that can enter. Australia and New Zealand are included in this list. I don't care if New Zealand isn't officially eligible, I'm going to enter in anyway and see what happens. ^^
fenix
When we buy GW in Australia, we're counted as European, as that's the copy of GW that EB Games get in Australia, the Euro version (which is also why the GW shop screwed up A LOT until Anet explained why)
crimsonfilms
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I love the knee jerk reaction of people crying saying 'at least we are not sucking up' to those criticizing them. Have you ever considered that you are just wrong? Yea- cos 'sucking up' in some forum will really benefit me.
Sheez.
Zappa
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That does not even make sense. And your choice is more than cry or licking.
I love the knee jerk reaction of people crying saying 'at least we are not sucking up' to those criticizing them. Have you ever considered that you are just wrong? Yea- cos 'sucking up' in some forum will really benefit me. Sheez. |
If I'm crying, you're licking boots.
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Posted by Zappa. (Eh sorry I don't know how to get it to say that by itself)
Zappa I wasn't being sarcastic. I live in a third world country. Here in Africa, forgotten by the rest of the world. I understand the reasons as to why we can't enter the sweepstakes. It is however rather disappointing, even frustrating, because down here we can't enter any competitions anywhere. And Zappa, I am the same. I hate so many things about South Africa, yet I am rather proud to be a South African. Somewhere along the line I must have been brainwashed... |
I feel the same way you do, about my 'roots', but it is unavoidable. We can't change that as much as we hate it. And the stupidest thing is that we live in a world that favors those who have more, but that takes us to another story.
Anyway, at least South Africa was included in the last magazine promotion.
Frantic-Sheep
woops, if some are excluded my number was way too high *rolleyes*
fenix
They should just do WORLD competitions, it's not TOO expensive to ship stuff to people, unless that entire country doesn't have what the prize is...
crimsonfilms
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You know I'm right. Right from the moment you, and people like you, like to use the word 'cry' to offend everyone that has something to say opposite to your convictions.
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And it is amazing you actually care about offending people, when considering made some obvious comments while completely ignorant of the facts and yet still have made no apologies.
Yes you are crying. No I am not licking boots because you obviously do not fully understand the definition.
Kakumei
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They should just do WORLD competitions, it's not TOO expensive to ship stuff to people, unless that entire country doesn't have what the prize is...
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Shadow Slave
So um....did I miss it, or have the winners still not been annouced? I could've sworn i'd read somewhere that these were going to be announced last month..? Any idea?
....Where would you like me to collect my prize?
....Where would you like me to collect my prize?
MrFuzzles
Like several people have already stated (and even Gaile herself), it's not because it's "too expensive to ship it". There are rules, regulations, laws, and whathaveyou which prevent them from being able to include certain areas.
If you find it completely unacceptable, I think you'll have more luck taking it up with your country's legal body than to bash Anet for it.
If you find it completely unacceptable, I think you'll have more luck taking it up with your country's legal body than to bash Anet for it.
anshin
i'm from portugal and play from here as well... and i entered...
Zappa dude... this is why i'm proud of my country... because despite it is almost third world... it can still create people like you
i am quite disappointed... but Gayle's reply does clarify alot... which helps with the known country hate... thanks for that (not being sarcastic)
and crimson guy... you're just wrong... keep it cool because if this hurts you you're in the wrong place...
Zappa dude... this is why i'm proud of my country... because despite it is almost third world... it can still create people like you
i am quite disappointed... but Gayle's reply does clarify alot... which helps with the known country hate... thanks for that
(not being sarcastic)and crimson guy... you're just wrong... keep it cool because if this hurts you you're in the wrong place...
captain_carter
I thought that discussion ended over a month ago
I think there are quite a few people wondering what happened, the winners were supposed to be drawn on or around the 20th July.
and I believe the PC term is LEDC (lesser economically developed country) not third world...
IMO, and as far as I am concerned general opinion and that of the UN, neither portugal nor South Africa are "third world", SA is likely "second" but portugal is more like "first world".
I think there are quite a few people wondering what happened, the winners were supposed to be drawn on or around the 20th July.
and I believe the PC term is LEDC (lesser economically developed country) not third world...
IMO, and as far as I am concerned general opinion and that of the UN, neither portugal nor South Africa are "third world", SA is likely "second" but portugal is more like "first world".
prism2525
I submitted mine before i read that only those countries are eligible....
/jokemode on
Gaile, anytime you're in Malta and see a member of the government, feel free to slap him silly across the face. We GW fans will back you up, no worries.
/jokemode off
/jokemode on
Gaile, anytime you're in Malta and see a member of the government, feel free to slap him silly across the face. We GW fans will back you up, no worries.
/jokemode off