Armour

Mr.Bimble

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

[ARSE] The Happy Campers

N/W

This is so cool.The bright people have changed the way we craft all armour. What can I say but what a useless, annoying waste of time!!! All armour is base,so needs everything added on.This nightfall system has replaced all factions and prophecies sets.Not a problem the price has been reduced and insignia just has to be bought. Now the gripe,insignia price is market led so the price varies,but the worst bit,SORRY ITS OUT OF STOCK!!! What a waste of time. Think about your armour, plan and decide what you need, then forget it because you can't buy it. Why anet has to meddle with things that do work and are simple enough for my poor old head to understand is a real piss off.
Rant over.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Factions had the right way

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

i love the nightfall system where you don't have to buy a whole new set of armor for new mods, but yeah, the availability of insignias should be controlled a bit more.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

Insignias are optional to beat the game, same with runes.

Lots of people begged/whined/pleaded/soldtheirfirstborn for this update. So it's either a vocal minority, or the "will of the community."

Either way, Market Prices and Availability will stabilize soon enough, we see this with just about any armor-affecting (or build) update or new Chapter.

Breathe in. Breathe out. Smile. Be patient.

It is the simpler solution, in the long run. Right now Core characters have 27 armor skins and 9 Variations (insignias.)

So, if we go with Factions-Style for everything (plus insignia-capable) that's 27*9 "pre-mades" plus 27 blank ones. (270 unique armors PER Profession.)

Now remember, we're getting new armors for GW:EN so that's X*9 more.

Sure, they are spread over a certain number of armor crafters... but at the same time what is easier? 270+X*9 spread over Y collectors, or 27+X spread over Y collectors?

(Warrior used as example.)

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

We should have the option of buying the armor Factions-style, with built-in, but un-removable insignias; or empty but with the ability to use insignias.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

I haven't taken the time to post this yet, so I guess I should...

I, and everyone dear to me, are ECSTATIC about this update. It's fantastic! Wonderful! Best update I can remember!

I can now have a Drakescale chestpiece with a new Beastmaster insignia on it. What's not to love?

Agyar

Agyar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT

[Dong]

Mo/

Streamlined and flexible item systems outweigh the extra cost. Making all armour inscribable is a great idea. Now they just need to change all weapons to be inscribable and I'll be happy.

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

what a useless, annoying waste of time!!!

Teh quotezoers of truth/

unbound00

unbound00

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade26
what a useless, annoying waste of time!!!

Teh quotezoers of truth/
Tell that to the thousands of Prophecies characters that couldnt choose the armor art they wanted because of the inherent stats they didn't want.

Amon Warrior

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

I like the update. It allows a better choice between your combat needs and armor preference.

Understand, adapt, overcome...

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Also this gives new live to armors you already have, but were in fact only their for their looks. I have 15K gladiator armor. Then bought Obsidian Gladitors armor. Now I can upgrade my glads to sentinels ^^. Pretty sweet if u ask me.

Alunher Dragonblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

A/

This is a Brilliant update!! Like Rhedd said now we can have any insignia on are favorite amour skin!! I do understand about the insignia market though that might be a problem

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Complaints about armor being inscribable is silly, since it was something that EVERYONE wanted for so long. I'm happy paying extra to change inscriptions on different armor, means I can actually use it.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Take this as an example and buy the runes BEFORE EotN comes out. You'll be glad you did.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

there was kind of a spike in prices of insignias when the update first happened but since insignias are also dropping on armors in prophecies and factions now, the price since has gone down quite a bite. the market's still balancing out since a lot of people bought insignias right away. hopefully the insignias being out will be a problem that will go away with a little more time.

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Black Dye Cartel

The FoW armor I paid 1.3 million gold for is now usable again, thus this change was the best thing that ever happened. Anyone who thinks differently is just plain wrong.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

I don't see what the issue is? They're really easy to come by, and like the others have said you can now have the update you want on the armour you want.

The insignias drop frequently, and if you don't have it immediately wait about 10 minutes and you're likely to end up with the one you wanted dropped. With the extra storage it's easy to hoarde them now, so just keep all the insignia drops you get and it's a really quick and easy way to get the armour you need.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bimble
Now the gripe,insignia price is market led so the price varies,but the worst bit,SORRY ITS OUT OF STOCK!!! What a waste of time. Think about your armour, plan and decide what you need, then forget it because you can't buy it.
two words: Ettin Farming. (Jade Knight farming, whatever-drops-armor-farming)

Insignia sources tripled.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I loved that update. I was able to change my old armors to what I wished. Quite pleased about that really.

Costs a tiny bit more in the short term maybe, but as has been said, the greater flexibility is a boon.

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by unbound00
Tell that to the thousands of Prophecies characters that couldnt choose the armor art they wanted because of the inherent stats they didn't want.
haha ya, my ranger has been gimped for a long time because I loved the look of non-stat droks leather armor so much. now I can have useful armor again!

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I dont see a problem with this, i'd much rather have +3 energy on pyromancer armor rather that +10 vs fire:P

Hexum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

MxG

N/Mo

HM farming will give you almost every rune/insignia you could want, plus it's free.

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Insignias FTW.
This topic FTL.

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

Ok fisrtly I like this idea, and while some insignia are a bit expensive at the moment they are not too expensive,
overall I like how we can chop and change the insignia and runes on al armours now.

I do have one gripe though, I went out looking at the Elite armours i wouldn't have bought from cantha and tyria, but noticed that there has been no drop in price on them, they are all still 15k a piece to buy

This is a problem due to the fact that now they are even more expensive to buy, I thought there was meant to be a corresponding drop in price so you didnt have to pay out tons more for insignia as well. If you plan on puting on radiant at the moment you are talking of an added 1k per piece, and then there is the bloodstained insignia.

This is the one aspect that sucks for me, personally i was looking forward to buying the odd elite that i wouldnt have before this on some characters, now I'm put off by the fact i would have to spend even more

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

Let me see if I have this straight. Choosing the armor artwork that you want + choosing the modifiers you want = bad? Sorry pal, but you lost me on that math.

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Black Dye Cartel

Quote:
Originally Posted by william1975

This is the one aspect that sucks for me, personally i was looking forward to buying the odd elite that i wouldnt have before this on some characters, now I'm put off by the fact i would have to spend even more
You were ready to spend 60k + materials, but you are put off by spending another 5k on insignias?

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

To the OP:

Give it a month or two when people are not so hyped up about armor changes, that way the insigma prices will become more stable, and there will be more on hand. You see what everyone is doing now, is buying out the insigma’s for corrections to armors they really love, because the functionality was not too great. I know some of the pricing is hard to swallow, but I think that’s why some of the implementations into, “how you can farm” in recent updates went into affect. This has really deflated prices on a very large scope, so it won’t be so bad in the long run.

I understand the reason the wanted to implement this system into all campaigns, was because of the people out cry for it and to technically make these less confusing. I personally like the system now, but I know I can say it’s a bit more enhanced then the old system.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Make all insignias cost 500G flat imo... and just have unlimited stick like salvage kits, i think that would be fine

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Write a coherent post explaining what you feel would be better, then post it in Sardelac. When the OP of a thread is a rant, it doesn't go anywhere and ends up all over the place.