I recently saw a post that someone was banned by a.net because a.net though they where a bot.. for death leveling.
Ok well I have a level 16 Necro in Pre and I'm working on the title for level 20 in pre.. and I've been death leveling on charr there for awhile... but I stoped doing it about a month ago to go play Oblivion.. got burned out on that and im getting back into guild wars again.. so am I to assume that going for the title in Pre seering is impossible now because if you sit afk for charr to death level you.. then you get banned?
what do I do?
Should I not Death level? (Fear of ban)
Chestnut
blood4blood
I DL'd this weekend on charr. DL'd on spiders/striders since then - have one going right now in fact. *shrug* You're mileage may vary, but I have yet to have any problems because of it other than frustration due to disconnects.
Bryant Again
Well, you might get banned, you might not. With how things are going right now, with the increasingly random bans and whatnot, it's hard to say.
My advice would be to wait a bit longer, and if you haven't gotten it yet to get the Shivering Isles, hehe.
My advice would be to wait a bit longer, and if you haven't gotten it yet to get the Shivering Isles, hehe.
Firebaall
If LDOA didn't require death leveling, you might have some reason to be worried about it. As it is, DLing is the only way to achieve this title. Don't worry about it. Anet specifically put death leveling back into the game (after removing it), and added the title.
As for that other thread about the person that banned "for death leveling", we really don't know the whole story.
As for that other thread about the person that banned "for death leveling", we really don't know the whole story.
Brianna
This is sad when people are scared of being banned for just playing the game legitimately lol.
Aera Lure
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This is sad when people are scared of being banned for just playing the game legitimately lol.
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I suppose you could always force them to play their hand. Send in a support ticket with a link to the death level guide or a description of what it is you are doing. Tell them that obviously that is the only way to get the Pre-Searing title. Then ask them outright if being banned is something you need to worry about. Get the reply and then go from there. In that case you have insurance in case you got banned - you did after all ask if it was ok to be afk and there would at least be precedent to reverse the decision on banning you if they ok'd what you were doing in the first place. They have to be aware of it. Sounds like from that other thread posted to which the OP refers, there is a system in place that simply autobans and it isnt monitored. Someone only looks into it once the ban happens and the player submits a support ticket. It'd be a good idea in that case to get an "ok" from support in advance so if you do get banned you can point to it as grounds for unbanning.
lennymon
I don't mean that Anet should list exactly what players can and cannot do for the botters to use against them...
But perhaps a simple statement that death levelling is ok even while afk and that nobody will be banned from presearing? Since as far as I know who the hell would bot there?
but I suppose that wont work because then they would bot there, but something.
But perhaps a simple statement that death levelling is ok even while afk and that nobody will be banned from presearing? Since as far as I know who the hell would bot there?
but I suppose that wont work because then they would bot there, but something.
fgarvin
I'm working on my Survivor title by killing the same mob repeatedly. Every time I log on, I'm fearful of seeing some notice from ANet informing me that my account has been banned. Maybe I shouldn't pick up any of the drops... 
IlikeGW
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That would be great! Then the botters can know exactly what to do to avoid banning !
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Sir Skullcrasher
Wait there is a title for death level?
greenchylde
what title do you get?
lennymon
Spazzer
It seems kinda random if you are gonna get banned or not by the reaction of all these "my account got banned!" people.
Best bet may be to not play Guild Wars pve until the problem is resolved. :]
Best bet may be to not play Guild Wars pve until the problem is resolved. :]
Every time i lag
dont think it will get solved in the near future lol
lennymon
I honestly think that 99.99% of the time Anet does it right, and 90% of those failures are corrected. That's not really my worry. What gets me is that we're (those of us on the forums who farm or death level) all a little nervous about getting banned regardless of whether or not Anet actually would ban us.
The bot banning thing is like the war on drugs here in the USA, it's one they can't win (not that they shouldn't try) as long as people still buy gold online. But stepping up the fight too much so that innocents get steamrolled means you lose anyways. It's a sucky fine line that Anet has to walk and I don't envy them the job, but they're stuck with it and I just think we all need to give them feedback to help them to make this a fun game for all of us.
Edit: I made up those statistics by the way and I am under no illusion that they are accurate.
The bot banning thing is like the war on drugs here in the USA, it's one they can't win (not that they shouldn't try) as long as people still buy gold online. But stepping up the fight too much so that innocents get steamrolled means you lose anyways. It's a sucky fine line that Anet has to walk and I don't envy them the job, but they're stuck with it and I just think we all need to give them feedback to help them to make this a fun game for all of us.
Edit: I made up those statistics by the way and I am under no illusion that they are accurate.
Bryant Again
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increasingly "random" bans? You mean posts by people on boards? That's hardly conclusive.
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Tide to Go
anet in courages you to death level......LDoA for example..... thats the only example really...so if you get ban for that id be stunned
BladeDVD
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If LDOA didn't require death leveling, you might have some reason to be worried about it. As it is, DLing is the only way to achieve this title. Don't worry about it. Anet specifically put death leveling back into the game (after removing it), and added the title.
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Do you even get any drops while doing this? Don't you only kill the monster once every few hours or something?
Seriously, stop worrying and have fun in presearing. I wish I had a free character slot so I could go back and spend some time there dye farming, checking out the scenery and maybe play with the idea of going for LDOA myself.
Sir Skullcrasher
I wish A-Net will lighten up their programs about catching bots!
Griff Mon
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I was the one that posted the story about the thread from a person on another forum who claimed that they were banned for death leveling.
I never heard anything else about it after telling him to get a support ticket going and engage in a polite request to get the account back.
Then I engaged in idle speculation that if one of the paramaters regarding bot-screening was number of hours online makes you a bot candidate based on the response that the poster in the other forum stated that his hours online convinced Anet that he was a bot. These are claims by someone that stated something and could be full of crap, fabricating the whole thing to curry sympathy.
Frankly, I don't know the truth of this. I do know that when I am death leveling I take advantage of every opportunity to log on and death level for precious experience points and can find myself logged on for 20+ hours before I close out and start over again. I have probably been logged in for some weeks in excess of 100 hours, 90+ of which are strictly death leveling.
I am being cautious now, staying logged in for less time to avoid this possible risk. This will cause me to take another month or so to get my LDOA title, but I can tolerate that a lot better than the risk, however slight, that I will be banned and have to wrestle with Anet to get my account back.
If someone from Anet would hop on here and reassure everyone that death leveling will not get you banned, then we can all stop talking about this.
Mad King Corn
Not just death leveling but being on for long periods of time, I for one am disabled so I have a lot of time to devote to gw and am worried that if thats one of the requirements that I too could be banned.
J snukka
im shocked and amazed that foes can gain experience in-game. who discovered this? i can't believe i never knew this.
Exoudeous
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This is sad when people are scared of being banned for just playing the game legitimately lol.
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VitisVinifera
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This is sad when people are scared of being banned for just playing the game legitimately lol.
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This simply should not be so.
Spazzer
It's like the server guys and the design team are locked in a never ending battle.
freekedoutfish
You cant be banned for something which Anet actively incourages with Legendary Defender of Ascalon! The only possible way to achieve that title at this moment is using death leveling.
How would it be fair, or make sense to ban a persons account for doing something they force you to do.
Plus even if it wasnt required for LDOA, it isnt something they can ban you for. Its not doing anyone any harm, it isnt cheating and it doesnt have any negative side effects. Death leveling is just taking advantage of a part of the game mechanics.
I have to assume you're after LDOA though, other I dont understand why you want to death level?
It takes a long, long, long time to do and its needlessly boring and tedious (I assume due to not ever doing it). It has no advantage over leveling up the normal way! Its quicker to just find creatures above you and kill them.
How would it be fair, or make sense to ban a persons account for doing something they force you to do.
Plus even if it wasnt required for LDOA, it isnt something they can ban you for. Its not doing anyone any harm, it isnt cheating and it doesnt have any negative side effects. Death leveling is just taking advantage of a part of the game mechanics.
I have to assume you're after LDOA though, other I dont understand why you want to death level?
It takes a long, long, long time to do and its needlessly boring and tedious (I assume due to not ever doing it). It has no advantage over leveling up the normal way! Its quicker to just find creatures above you and kill them.
Griff Mon
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im shocked and amazed that foes can gain experience in-game. who discovered this? i can't believe i never knew this.
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I am not sure how it was discovered, but my guess is that someone died near a rez shrine, went AFK, and came back to find that the creatures that were killing them had leveled up by killing them repeatedly.
There were people in pre-searing that wanted to get past level 16 (long before the LDOA title) and they put this to the test and found they could gain experience that way. Hence, the first level 20 in pre-searing was eventually obtained, others wanted to do it, and Anet now gives a title for it.
lennymon
it is actually used in pet rearing also. you let the pet (to be) kill you alot and they raise levels with almost infallible tendency towards dire.
IlikeGW
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There were people in pre-searing that wanted to get past level 16 (long before the LDOA title) and they put this to the test and found they could gain experience that way. Hence, the first level 20 in pre-searing was eventually obtained, others wanted to do it, and Anet now gives a title for it.
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lennymon
glad you dont like it and we won't look for you in pre... bye now
Darksun
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Who cares. If you go into a store and get tackled and dragged back to the security office, and they say they didn't see you shoplifting but said you looked like a shoplifter, how would feel?
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Second 'Looking like a shop lifter' Is doing the things a shop lifter does. Looking around a lot. Going to the back of the store/away from cameras. Putting hands/things (that may be YOURS)in your pocket. Wearing a big coat, sun glasses, hat pulled down. There is a damn good reason to be suspicious.
If ANET banned my account & fined me, that would be more accurate to your analogy. A ban is more the equivalent of them taking me aside, questioning me and barring me from the store.
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Something's a bit off in Anet's banning practice right now, in that profiling does not equal evidence yet that's how they're doing it.
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