Aged Guilds.

StarGatherer

StarGatherer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

On a speck of dirt in a great big place

The Resurrected

I was sitting, staring at my screen blankly Dazed frankly.And it occurred to me after the past birthday festivities that the guild I was left to Wallow in(Dont get me wrong, I am a content wallower) was quite old.Im sure there are some older guilds out there still thriving.Be nice to see that recognized in some manner.Perhaps an old fart emote or matador move with the cape.Ill go back to my hypnosis now.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

I'm sure my guild leader would be happy ^^ He created the guild on 05/06/2005.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

/signed for a guild birthday emote or other reward for being around so long.

Alot of guilds come and go, mines only a year or so. But there are a few that have been around for a long time. It would be nice to see them noticed.

~the rat~

yarddog

yarddog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Philadelphia-Go Eagles

Raptor Five [Five]

W/

/signed our birthday May 07,2005

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by yarddog
/signed our birthday May 07,2005
We win by 1 day

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

May is before June you american lol
dd/mm/yy it makes more sence

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

yea this would be great i got the game a week after it was released and made guild 2 days after playing.... and i have stuck with it...

StarGatherer

StarGatherer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

On a speck of dirt in a great big place

The Resurrected

Tenshi, you should have a mini storage chest that follows you around.Or whip your cape up like dracula emote.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

LOL........ ok

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

I founded my guild the 25th of July 2005.
Almost 2 years and still alive, might deserve some kind of acknowledgement, as a way to show others your guild is a long-term stable one, persisting in its survival.

What about giving aged guilds a special feature for their cape, that makes it definitely stand out from the crowd (a bit in the vain of permanent gold and silver cape trims for tournament finalists)?

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

Indeed. Trims for guilds that have been around for years would be an excellent feature.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
May is before June you american lol
dd/mm/yy it makes more sence
No, it doesn't. That format is just as bad. The International Date Format is clearly the best there is.

The international format defined by ISO (IS0 8601) tries to address all these problems by defining a numerical date system as follows: YYYY-MM-DD where
  1. YYYY is the year [all the digits, i.e. 2012]
  2. MM is the month [01 (January) to 12 (December)]
  3. DD is the day [01 to 31]
For example, "3rd of April 2002", in this international format is written: 2002-04-03.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
YYYY-MM-DD
That would be the most convenient format, especially for classifying reasons ...
But let's stay on topic, please.

There might be a couple of issues with trims:
  1. guilds with gold or silver trims might also be 2 years in age, so how would that combine?
  2. if the color of a trim can be chosen, then some might abuse it to fake tournament reward golden and silver trims;
  3. if the color of a trim cannot be chosen, it must be a color that matches with all other colors (outside the allready taken gold and silver, I cannot immediately think of a color that would match any cape, except for bronze, which would ressemble gold too much).
It definitely should be something very visible with the cape though ...
but what exactly?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

how about white border? or a tiny star on the border for each year in existance.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

ok i was thinking that if the guild is a year old it should get a dusty look and if the guild is 2 or more years old it should get a "ghostly" look so it is tranparent like eternal weps

dwchang

dwchang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legion of Losers [LOL]

Giving Guilds the same trims as those found in GvG would be a bad idea. Guilds who compete at the top level would, frankly, be very angry to lose their uniqueness and leetness.

Now of course don't get me wrong, I do think it's an honor and accomplishment for a Guild to stay together for so long (mine has been around since launch in May'05 and it's not easy), but also having been a GvG Guild who has earned trims before through hard work and skill, I know that other GvG Guilds would get angry.

Many of them stating their opinion a bit more rudely than I am now :P.

As for some other type of reward that is unique. Sure that's a great idea.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwchang
Giving Guilds the same trims as those found in GvG would be a bad idea.
Nobody is suggesting to give aged guilds the same trims as top GvG guilds, so please do not insinuate this kind of intention.
Thought is going however on how to imply a cape feat without creating confusion with the allready existant trims.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazompora
I founded my guild the 25th of July 2005.
Almost 2 years and still alive, might deserve some kind of acknowledgement, as a way to show others your guild is a long-term stable one, persisting in its survival.

What about giving aged guilds a special feature for their cape, that makes it definitely stand out from the crowd (a bit in the vain of permanent gold and silver cape trims for tournament finalists)?
Make old guild capes flourescent, that ought to get it noticed :P.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

My guild was apparently created 06/09/2005 (I just look at my guild leader's join date). I wouldn't mind if our guild got some recognition of its age.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
Make old guild capes flourescent, that ought to get it noticed :P.
In case you mean lumiscent (glowing, like Chaos Axes), that'd be awesome indeed.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

yea i agree but gvgers might get pissed cause our capes would cooler than theres lol

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
yea i agree but gvgers might get pissed cause our capes would cooler than theres lol
They wouldn't if their guild is "aged" aswell (gold/silver trim + luminescence = them even happyer).

What do you think ... maybe this should be turned into a poll or petition?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

^_^ I like it!

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

good point bazo lol sure

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Still ... options should be discussed first.
Maybe someone has got other great ideas.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Having a year old guild is comparable to winning a GvG tourny?

I can get hold of a bunch of dead accounts with leadership of 2 year old guilds with ease...

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

sounds like a good idea, old guild I was in before making my own has been around for quite some time

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Agreed with Skuld here, it's way to easy finding old accounts which own old guilds. I can even imagine people making a guild with an inactive account just to sell for ~100K a year later.
Keeping an active and stable community for over a year is very hard, won't disagree there, but it's too easy to 'abuse' the system.

I certainly wouldn't want a lumiscent cape though... way too ugly

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Having a year old guild is comparable to winning a GvG tourny?
It's not the same, but it is an accomplishement to keep a guild alive for years; hence the suggestion to differentiate the rewards
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
I can get hold of a bunch of dead accounts with leadership of 2 year old guilds with ease...
You bring up a good point there: people might just buy aged guilds from others.
I suggest the following solution: as guilds that bring in new leadership are not really "stable", I suggest to only reward guilds, that have a leader that has been part of the guild for a year or more. As for account trading, that's a violation of the user agreement terms.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

What if it hasn't been alive for years? The system wouldn't differenciate.

Why should this sort of thing be given out any way? Nothing else gets anything like this.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
What if it hasn't been alive for years? The system wouldn't differenciate.
The system would definitely be able to get info such as member trends, join/parts, player activity, growth/downsizing, etc just based on statistical records of players and cross referencing it with the guild, youd be able to paint a decent picture of what a living guild is vs a dead guild.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Why should this sort of thing be given out any way?
Just read the thread again (if you allready have).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Nothing else gets anything like this.
Miniatures for aged characters, celebration hats, golden/silver cape trims for tournament finalists, ... "this" wouldn't be something that couldn't fit in the line.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
The system would definitely be able to get info such as member trends, join/parts, player activity, growth/downsizing, etc just based on statistical records of players and cross referencing it with the guild, youd be able to paint a decent picture of what a living guild is vs a dead guild.
Also, even if the system fails to do all that, how many guilds come back into life after being dead for a year? "Dead" does not mean low on member activity, but complete long-term inactivity including the leadership.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I would like this and mine is a beta guild created in Feb.19 2005.They could give us some sort of trim not the same as PvP guild have then maybe I won't have many leavers in it.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

To summarize, these are the interesting suggestions that have been made so far:
  • emote: matador move with cape
  • emote: whip up cape like Dracula
  • cape: colored trim
  • cape: transparant
  • cape: luminescent

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

another idea i got from another forum is a npc, kinda like a mini pet but not mini, that wanders around your hall. there could be many like koss, or rurik, or even dwayana or the other gods. i think that would be cool, and would not bother the gvg guilds at all.

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

nice idea, seems like there may be difficulties in implementation though.

NPC may be a good idea though. I suppose there could be a requirment of the same officers/leader in the guild over a given time, say 4 officers one leader being there the whole time.