19 Jun 2007 at 07:00 - 13
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I AM A METAGAMER!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, kids own everything and they are 1337. I'm old and stupid, that I know too.
Why one would use sword over Scyte with one skill which is not even spammable?
19 Jun 2007 at 07:29 - 14
Dude get a freaking life i bet you havn't even tried it, mabe you should accept people like to use unique builds and hey some of those people who try out this sorta build do screw up and can't quite grasp it and then some people make builds tha are great maybe tools like you should accept that some people are differant and try other things instead of just sticking to sterotypical dervishes if you only use the original weapons for your character you must be a really boring person... and i bet that when you were at school you were a little retard that followed the cool kid crowd... seriously you've got problems.
And this is directed to everyone who thought the idea of sword weilding dervishes are lame and useless and I really don't care what you guys say about me for defending this guys ideas.
19 Jun 2007 at 08:03 - 15
When using the weapon of your 2ndary prof, the question to ask is "what could you do that they can't?"
The problem with this build: everything it can do, a warrior can do alot better.
[skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill] A warrior can't even use this. If you're gonna use a weapon that swings faster than a scythe, take advantage of the speed.
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] The only IAS in the game that isn't a stance. Use it.
[skill]Hamstring[/skill] A warrior doesn't have the energy to spam this. A derv has plenty.
.....anyways you get the point.
22 Jun 2007 at 17:41 - 16
Another Thnkxs for Defiled lol
Anyways like i said i already change the Build go to Weaponless killer just some threads after this one ok... insult me over there plz...
~Let Your First Breath Be Your Last One~
25 Jun 2007 at 09:14 - 17
Defiled, explain to my why sword dervishes have any advantage to scythe dervishes. Explain, I do not expect a barrage of garbled anger containing any of these words: unique, break, life, omg, grasp, original, cookie-cutter, stereotype. Just explain to me, calmly and clearly, why, please.
02 Jul 2007 at 17:45 - 18
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Originally Posted by The Defiled Knight
Dude get a freaking life i bet you havn't even tried it, mabe you should accept people like to use unique builds and hey some of those people who try out this sorta build do screw up and can't quite grasp it and then some people make builds tha are great maybe tools like you should accept that some people are differant and try other things instead of just sticking to sterotypical dervishes if you only use the original weapons for your character you must be a really boring person... and i bet that when you were at school you were a little retard that followed the cool kid crowd... seriously you've got problems.
And this is directed to everyone who thought the idea of sword weilding dervishes are lame and useless and I really don't care what you guys say about me for defending this guys ideas.
.... i recommend tutoring, but i guess for someone like you even that wouldn't go far.
anyways, I'm not against sword wielding dervish but thats not going to work. like you said it doesnt work against anyone, except for warriors and assassins. its limited even there. take advantage of the dervish energy pool by using those sword attacks that warriors dont have enough energy to spam or use effectively.dervish have a lot of potential with any weapon but in general i recommend staying with a scythe in most cases.
02 Jul 2007 at 18:16 - 19
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
What is it with Dervishes and swords, anyways?
Bloody wammos...
GOD DANG WAMMOS AND THEIR NOOBISH SWORDS.
Also why don't you just make a dervish with mending? lol
02 Jul 2007 at 20:56 - 20
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
GOD DANG WAMMOS AND THEIR NOOBISH SWORDS.
Also why don't you just make a dervish with mending? lol
Because the wammo can beat it using frenzy and heal sig too
03 Jul 2007 at 04:01 - 21
On an unrelated note.....
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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] The only IAS in the game that isn't a stance. Use it.
[skill]Rampage As One[/skill] is just a 'skill' not a 'stance'
=D
03 Jul 2007 at 11:14 - 22
Someone forgot [skill]aggressive refrain[/skill] as well...
03 Jul 2007 at 14:15 - 23
And Critical Agility and Never Rampage Alone, but they're PvE only skills so...
I really don't see the attraction of this build. Vow of Strength is severely hindered by armour and your using a weapon with the lowest critical hit of all weapons (nobody auto-attacks with daggers so its irrelevant). It has no IAS either. Vow of Strength is completely out of date now anyway thanks to Aura of Holy Might, at r5 allegience, not too hard to attain, you get 25%. 25% less than 15 Earth Prayers, about the same as 7 Earth Prayers for a non-elite with no attributes used that can be maintained for a very good duration combined with Eternal Aura and an Avatar.
There is no way the sword, without an IAS can possiby be better than using a Scythe, for a start Scythe has 2 spammable attack skills that bypass the slow attack speed.
12 Jul 2007 at 16:45 - 24
[QUOTE=The Defiled Knight]Dude get a freaking life i bet you havn't even tried it, mabe you should accept people like to use unique builds and hey some of those people who try out this sorta build do screw up and can't quite grasp it and then some people make builds tha are great maybe tools like you should accept that some people are differant and try other things instead of just sticking to sterotypical dervishes if you only use the original weapons for your character you must be a really boring person... and i bet that when you were at school you were a little retard that followed the cool kid crowd... seriously you've got problems.
And this is directed to everyone who thought the idea of sword weilding dervishes are lame and useless and I really don't care what you guys say about me for defending this guys ideas.[/QUOTE
NOOO!!! , there is NOBODY in the entire universe who has ever made a 'great' swordwielding build for a dervish. You might think it's fun and i respect that, but dont you EVER EVER say that this build 'could' work better than a scytne wielding dervish/swordwielding warrior. Theres a reason why some builds are stereotypical and others are absolute rubbish, and you should accept that.
I also don't see the 'fun' in running a crappy build. Maybe i should make a warrior/monk with ONLY a focus item, because it's 'fun'.
22 Jul 2007 at 05:39 - 25
i pity the teams in ra where you landed
vow of strength is a decent skill in ra... because with high scythe mastery you can crit alot, and since scythe max damage is so high you can get the most out of your vow of strength
this build has absolutely zero advantages, cant even use hekets rampage like normal vow of strength dervs do
i hate these non scythe dervs so much, because 99% of them are made by some self proclaimed 'pro innovative non conformist' who will never admit the obvious flaws to their build
22 Jul 2007 at 08:16 - 26
To sum this topic up.
Scythe > Sword. Period.
(PS. Go /mo and take Mending + Mystic Regen.)
22 Jul 2007 at 16:05 - 27
OP, you're dumb
22 Jul 2007 at 18:53 - 28
I always wanted to make a sword wielding dervish, especially with my new glacial blade >.>
This is an awesome idea. I don't know about the build but I thought something to get off a lot of attacks would be smooth like...
hundred blades with sun and moon slash. get off like 4 attacks on one guy really fast O_o
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OH HERE, have some enchantment on then twin moon sweep, hundred blades, then sun and moon slash, a nice quick 6 attacks =p
edit #2: and yes i know twin moon sweep is scythe mastery but you can have no points in the attribute, the only thing affected is how much health gain you get.
22 Jul 2007 at 20:19 - 29
[QUOTE=Fox Reeveheart]
OH HERE, have some enchantment on then twin moon sweep, hundred blades, then sun and moon slash, a nice quick 6 attacks =p
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You could potentially do the same on a dervish with a scythe, hit 6 targets that is with Twin Moon Sweep, bring some real advantages to the table pl0x.
22 Jul 2007 at 20:34 - 30
well yeah you could do that but then again the dervish has always had that option. but with the attack speed of a sword and all those other skills you will get off 6 attacks fairly quickly... i had some ideas for some builds
swordsmanship
mysticism
tactics
twin moon sweep
sun and moon slash
hundred blades
heart of fury
wild blow???
some kind of stance to block attacks, maybe 2 of these. one to go after the other in chaining succession
ummm.... either go with a zealous sword hilt or some energy gain skill like zealous renewal.
faithful intervention or any other cover enchantment for twin moon sweep. this would be a good enchantment to cast before going into the fray then open with twin moon sweep
lots of options
this is not for farming obviously but seems like a nice high dps.
22 Jul 2007 at 21:57 - 31
You'd need some kind of damage buff on them 6 hits, tho. Swords are weak at 12 rank. You really need an order necro riding your ass to be dealing any actual damage. Otherwise, you're merely charging adrenaline for no real purpose.
22 Jul 2007 at 22:27 - 32
if you're going to waste your life making sword dervs, at least run S/M slash, heart of fury, and some avvy that can make use of all the hits
23 Jul 2007 at 02:25 - 33
barbous slice
gash
twin moon sweep
sun and moon
conviction/watch yourself
derv ias i forget what its called
vital boon/faithful
res
but yeah, its not as good as a warrior, or a dervish :\
23 Jul 2007 at 05:12 - 34
actually using Twin moon sweep and sun and moon slash with lyssa avatar would be pretty disasterous for any caster. I mean since you are a caster you are always casting basically so always having that nice fast and sex damage output with a fast weapon.
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