Make PvP player verses player

This is a strange idea to make PvP Player versus player not Cap shrines versus .. well nothing

Alliance BATTLE shouldn't be about dodging mobs to cap shrines, it should be a map thats empy except a res base each so it's just 12 players versus 12 players not all runners.
Like RA but with 12v12

Also a 1v1 would be nice but it would end up like Hero Battles everyone taking one build

You do have to eventually fight other players in Alliance Battles...

/notsigned

12 people bashing on 12 other people would get old, fast. At least with shrines there's more tactics than "beat the crap out of the other guys to win".

AB isnt chess. You have to FIGHT for those shrines. Mobbing is just an effective way of doing it.

1. They should make some of those shrine benefits to the whole team instead of having to be in the area of it. Gives a little more strategy.
2. Mobbing is not an effective strategy.

/totally not signed, npcs add variety and excitment into PvP and make it alot more fun.

hmm actually having slept on it this would be bad
Everyone would take 8 defense skills and a round would last hours
I guess in the current way theres room for runners, spikers, tankers (maybe even sin's but not while i'm there )

AB is fun (for me at least) specifically because it is a mixture of PVE and PVP. It was designed that way on purpose. It fills a nice spot in the game for PVE'ers who like a little PVP on the side once in awhile.

For people who want pure PVP, there are plenty of other options.

/notsigned
Oh and JeniM, sins are great in PvP and I see them in AB all the time (a good sin or a good ranger or mesmer are the biggest threats in AB in my opinion).

ABs are pvp?

I guess I'd see your point if you were complaining about there being NPCs in the arenas or something. If what you want is pure player vs. player combat, Alliance Battles do not and were never meant to offer that. That's what the arenas are for.

Anet never promised Alliance Battles would be pure PvP, so don't complain that they aren't. Not signed.