People selling tournament tokens? Scam?

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Sir Green Aluminum
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
Yeah, I saw this guy selling them for 1k each in random arenas. Can you actually trade them and do people actually buy them? If they did I'd finally have something good to spend my balthazar faction on.
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Anika Croft
Pre-Searing Cadet
#2
I buy them, but for 100g each in Hero Battles.
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Toilet Oni
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
you can sell and buy the tokens , and its not a scam
Skuld
Skuld
Furnace Stoker
#4
Do you even know what "scam" means?
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#5
100g to people in Hero Battles before tourney start-up time is selling.

1K to clueless RA noobs that most likely don't even know what it's for, might be scamming.
Skuld
Skuld
Furnace Stoker
#6
Why is that a scam? They want them, they're willing to pay that amount for them, I don't see a problem.
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linh
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
It is maybe a rip-off, but not a scam.
Smile Like Umean It
Smile Like Umean It
Desert Nomad
#8
No, this is not a scam.

A price was agreed upon and both parties get what they want.
ichigo_panty
ichigo_panty
Krytan Explorer
#9
If people are willing to pay, why is it a scam.
If this is a scam, how about those trader who are selling thing for 100k+100e?
Trades aren't suppose to exceed 100k in ANet terms.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yourdictionary.com
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam·ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Selling 1k per token doesn't classified it as a scam.
Rhedd
Rhedd
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
I think you all are missing what the OP was actually asking about.

I could be wrong (my long-distance mind reading skills are underdeveloped), but I don't think he was asking about the cost, but whether or not tokens are buyable/sellable at all.

Understandable question. I had never really realized they were, myself.
Terra Xin
Terra Xin
Furnace Stoker
#11
I'm happy to sell mine for 100g, its something to get rid of all the faction that is now useless to me
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Sir Green Aluminum
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
I meant it as a scam because if like it was untradable and they replace it with a look-a-like or something. Like the ecto/mursat token thing. 1k seems like alot for something I can make 12 of right now. I'll be selling mine in hero battles now. Thanks.

Oh yeah and by that definition of scamming someone posted it is scamming if you overcharge someone. For example isn't it scamming if a Mechanic charges you extra because he knows your not good with cars? Or you offer a kid $1 for their hat or something. Or in a guild wars example if you buy black dyes from a low lv in pre-searing for 100g.
ichigo_panty
ichigo_panty
Krytan Explorer
#13
Negligence from the buying party then.

Tokens can be sold for 1k each to desperate people who want those token fast. They have not time to spam WTB token for 100g or farm for it when the timer is ticking away. It would be a bonus if you find these people and you can earn some profits of it. I know as i sold some at 1k each to desperate people who really need these token badly.
Solus Spartan
Solus Spartan
Krytan Explorer
#14
Not a scam, just overpriced really
TwinRaven
TwinRaven
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
Scam/swindle/fraud: something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage...Selling an item for way more than it's worth to another party can be considered a scam if the claim of what the item is worth far excedes a reasonable value for the item. Trying to get a good price for your goods is good business, taking advantage of the unsuspecting "noob" by charging 10 times the going rate, I'd call that "deliberate" enough to warrent the term "scam" however you might justify it to yourself...it's as bad as price gouging in a crisis or charging school children for water...it just isn't ethical. Even if the second party agrees to the price, especially if the second party is unaware that the current rate is 1/10th the value, it's a scam. Not a huge scam, but a scam none-the-less.
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Does-it-Matter
Krytan Explorer
#16
To echo what TwinRaven said and what Ichigo inadvertently proved...

The difference is mis-representation.

I can sell you an apple for $300, if you are willing to pay for it. Now, if I attempt to directly or indirectly infer that the MARKET PRICE for such an apple is $300, that is deception.

Selling a tournement token for more than the "common trader" currently sells it for? Not a scam.

Telling a player who you (as the "scammer") believe is not informed, in a manner in which you infer the price is higher than what average trades are set at... is a scam, by definition of fraudulent/deceptive means.