I notice this going on a LOT...
There is a pause from the action, maybe one player went AFK for a minute and the rest of the team decides to wait. Player X decides to be a showoff, and drops a gold weapon just so everyone can see the mods, the type of weapon, and the fact that it's a gold! This continues a few times. Player Y gets aggravated (Hell, I hate it when people do this) and being quick with the mouse, picks up one of player X's golds before he gets a chance to pick it up.
I did this once, but felt kind of bad, and gave the gold back..told him not to do it again, though....however, is this, if player Y decides to keep the gold, something that he could get banned for? I've seen players threaten other players by sending screenshots to Anet, hoping that the other player would get banned.
Also (and no, I haven't done this, I'd feel too guilty)...sometimes in the Deep (or wherever) a gold drop that was originally assigned to player Z will lose its' assignment, because the player was dead, or trapped in a room, etc. If someone else picks it up, although it's certainly a jerkish thing to do, is it bannable for 'stealing' that person's gold? I've seen people threatening to take screenshots and send them to Anet for a ban, but since the person didn't cheat or anything to get the gold, I can't imagine that being bannable. That being said however, I don't think that the assignment should be lost so quickly...there are certain circumstances that make it impossible for a player to get to a gold within a certain period of time, and not every player out there is nice.
Is this a bannable offense?
The Great Al
Feminist Terrorist
I don't think either of those are bannable offenses.
If a person keeps dropping stuff to show off and loses it, it's their own fault for being such a jackass.
If a person keeps dropping stuff to show off and loses it, it's their own fault for being such a jackass.
-Loki-
If there's a chat log around the same time with the player saying he was only showing it and wasn't dropping it for others to grab, Arenanet might do something. If not, they're probably out of luck.
makosi
From a moral point of view, most would agree it's wrong.
From a technical point of view, dropping an item gives any person in the instance the opportunity to pick it up and most people are aware of that.
In my opinion if I smoked 40 cigarettes a day and developed illnesses as a result, I would not blame the tobacco comapnies. I am made aware of the effects of smoking and I make the choice to do so therefore I cannot sue the tobacconist. In the same way, you know the possible outcomes whehn you drop an item.
The moral of the story is you shouldn't ever drop something items if you want them.
...and it's your own responsibility.
From a technical point of view, dropping an item gives any person in the instance the opportunity to pick it up and most people are aware of that.
In my opinion if I smoked 40 cigarettes a day and developed illnesses as a result, I would not blame the tobacco comapnies. I am made aware of the effects of smoking and I make the choice to do so therefore I cannot sue the tobacconist. In the same way, you know the possible outcomes whehn you drop an item.
The moral of the story is you shouldn't ever drop something items if you want them.
...and it's your own responsibility.
Shaz
Yep, it's not nice, but I don't think those are bannable offenses. Maybe they'll learn to use the trade window next time to show off, lol.
ryanryanryan0310
It can't be bannable. Playing around with your items is at your own risk. Loot assignment got a timer so once it runs out, then it's up for grabs. Some people are nice and some aren't....
I usually drop some wood on the floor in the deep, 1 at a time....
I usually drop some wood on the floor in the deep, 1 at a time....
LifeInfusion
Egotism and greed leads to demise. Reminds me of the ecto dupe scams ...
Ritual del Fuego
Equip an item and Ctrl click it if you want to show it off. Better yet open the trade window. Other than that, it is fair game IMO if you drop it and someone swipes it. Not real smart if you ask me. I probably wouldn't swipe it but if someone did I wouldn't blame them too much, especially if the other person was just showing off.
As for the gold expiring, that is wrong but probably not something A/net would do anything about.
As for the gold expiring, that is wrong but probably not something A/net would do anything about.
VitisVinifera
agree with everyone else........not bannable
as for someone dropping their stuff and showing off, that's probably more immature or faux pas-ish than stealing it
and for the expiring drops, well it used to be just 5 minutes, then a while ago anet made it 10 min. Just pick your damn stuff up if you want it.
as for someone dropping their stuff and showing off, that's probably more immature or faux pas-ish than stealing it
and for the expiring drops, well it used to be just 5 minutes, then a while ago anet made it 10 min. Just pick your damn stuff up if you want it.
I Might Avenge U
Lol, It's funny when a gold drops and it's assigned to a dead player, cause everyone in the group kind of stops for a second, just hoping that maybe he will get the gold if waits or pretends to be afk next to the gold. I usually like to rez the person it's assigned to and piss everyone else off... Although I could see that being hard to do if say everyone were dead, and a gold elemental sword dropped...
Silly Warrior
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I don't think either of those are bannable offenses.
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Correct.
Morally I would never steal from another player ( wouldn't want that weight on my chest) but if I was desperate.....
No, no its wrong to steal, but its also wrong to act like an idiot and do something so foolish on purpose.
Roshi_ikkyu
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If there's a chat log around the same time with the player saying he was only showing it and wasn't dropping it for others to grab, Arenanet might do something. If not, they're probably out of luck.
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Not bannable offences in my book.
I've seen my party zone when a guy was being smart and dropping runes he had picked up, he didn't do that again!
VitisVinifera
makes me wish if i were in a pug with a tool who wants to drop his gear, that I were my sin with recall equipped
would be even better if his gear was customized and i dropped the materials I just salvaged from it (keeping any mods though)
now that's evilness befitting of a sin
would be even better if his gear was customized and i dropped the materials I just salvaged from it (keeping any mods though)
now that's evilness befitting of a sin
J snukka
i was put in that situation. a lockpick dropped for someone and we told him. but he was in a rush to want to beat the mission. When we came around to the lockpick at the end of finishing a bonus. I decided to just pick it up.
Lady Ana Stacia
Morally wrong yes, bannable no.
I run the deep regularly with friends and occasionally we pick up one or two other pugs. We have a zero tolerance policy on others taking someone else's golds if they time out tho. We will literally all leave and regroup if someone is going to drop steal. They will be given the opportunity tho to give back the gold multiple times before we leave.
Not worth the hassle and we choose to only play with honest people.
I run the deep regularly with friends and occasionally we pick up one or two other pugs. We have a zero tolerance policy on others taking someone else's golds if they time out tho. We will literally all leave and regroup if someone is going to drop steal. They will be given the opportunity tho to give back the gold multiple times before we leave.
Not worth the hassle and we choose to only play with honest people.
Jecht Scye
I kind of think that person deserves it. Don't drop your crap and no one will pick it up
Thunder79
Ethically wrong...Bannable...no.
If you drop an item on the ground it's fair game...if someone picks the item up then they're being an ass...if you're dropping it repeatedly then you deserve to lose it...and whoever picks it up deserves to keep it. It's your own damn fault for provoking the person to pick it up.
As for picking up stuff where the assignment timer has expired? yeah it's a no no if the person hasn't had a chance to pick it up...if they have had plenty of time to pick it up and ample chances to do so...it's fair game...that's as good as saying it's up for grabs.
If you drop an item on the ground it's fair game...if someone picks the item up then they're being an ass...if you're dropping it repeatedly then you deserve to lose it...and whoever picks it up deserves to keep it. It's your own damn fault for provoking the person to pick it up.
As for picking up stuff where the assignment timer has expired? yeah it's a no no if the person hasn't had a chance to pick it up...if they have had plenty of time to pick it up and ample chances to do so...it's fair game...that's as good as saying it's up for grabs.
BenjZee
there fault really. i wouldnt do it though. i have enough randomo golds clogging up storage.
i may feel guilty aswell. a fellow guildie dropped all his greens and told me stand back. I could easily of taken them and quit the guild but i wouldnt
Lol if i used shadow step they could been mine...
this is sorta the same but sometimes people also will do this with drops, a ecto dropped for my guildie but the only person left wouldnt res the rest of the group and wated for us to leave...just for 1 ecto
i may feel guilty aswell. a fellow guildie dropped all his greens and told me stand back. I could easily of taken them and quit the guild but i wouldnt
Lol if i used shadow step they could been mine...
this is sorta the same but sometimes people also will do this with drops, a ecto dropped for my guildie but the only person left wouldnt res the rest of the group and wated for us to leave...just for 1 ecto
Solus Spartan
Not bannable,just silly player X
Clord
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If there's a chat log around the same time with the player saying he was only showing it and wasn't dropping it for others to grab, Arenanet might do something. If not, they're probably out of luck.
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Etta
Do you put your new 40" flat screen TV on the road outside your house to show it off? Or drop your wallet to show how much money you have? Drop an item to show it off and thinking that noone will pick it up is just stupid. Use Ctrl or trade window to show off the in game items. If any items were drop on the ground, then it's fair game to anyone.
Ethically, Morally? I'll stick my two fingers upto them, or just one finger depend on how I feel. If they want to be an idiot let 'em, I say.
Edit: My comments are entirely and only directed at those who drop their l33t items just to show off. Not for those who drop their items when their bags are full as stated below.
Ethically, Morally? I'll stick my two fingers upto them, or just one finger depend on how I feel. If they want to be an idiot let 'em, I say.
Edit: My comments are entirely and only directed at those who drop their l33t items just to show off. Not for those who drop their items when their bags are full as stated below.
ichigo_panty
I did that in HoH when i had forgotten to clear my inventory before entering.
It is wrong ethically, but you can't do much. Greed is in everyone.
To drop those items just to show off is just plain stupid, and they deserved to lose those items if someone picked it up.
If i am to pick up any weapon that joker dropped just to show off, i will drop 1 gold as a 'thank you very much' gift.
Be prepared to be bombard with PMs after the incident with all the nasty comments.
It is wrong ethically, but you can't do much. Greed is in everyone.
To drop those items just to show off is just plain stupid, and they deserved to lose those items if someone picked it up.
If i am to pick up any weapon that joker dropped just to show off, i will drop 1 gold as a 'thank you very much' gift.
Be prepared to be bombard with PMs after the incident with all the nasty comments.
arcanemacabre
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Or drop your wallet to show how much money you have?
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onerabbit
Ahh, the things ive managed 2 pick up from things like this =D
Darq
While I couldn't pick it up myself, I can't feel any pity for the victim, it really is a stupid thing to do... So rich you want to show off like that? You can afford another one... But as I said, it's ethically wrong, and I wouldn't do it.
Reminds me of a time when I was in FoW with a PUG, a Key dropped and it was like no-one could see it, I even told the guy he was leaving his Key behind, he stood near it and didn't grab it. Well we nearly wiped after that, just me and an Ele that didn't seem to speak English, no res's left, I said he could have it, he didn't get it, he ran in casting, I didn't leave the poor guy and grab the key... Oh, no, I ran in after, and died... Very stupid decision. Moral? You really feel like a jackass taking someone else's stuff, even if they don't seem to want it...
Reminds me of a time when I was in FoW with a PUG, a Key dropped and it was like no-one could see it, I even told the guy he was leaving his Key behind, he stood near it and didn't grab it. Well we nearly wiped after that, just me and an Ele that didn't seem to speak English, no res's left, I said he could have it, he didn't get it, he ran in casting, I didn't leave the poor guy and grab the key... Oh, no, I ran in after, and died... Very stupid decision. Moral? You really feel like a jackass taking someone else's stuff, even if they don't seem to want it...
Etta
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Actually, if someone picked it up and ran off with it, it would be considered stealing, and you could get charged with such IRL.
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Hyper.nl
Not bannable would be my choice. Dropping golds (or any item) is just plain not so smart to do. If you want to give it or show it to a certain player, use the trade function.
Also, when people drop something, I interpret it as that they don't want that item anymore an making it free fo anyone to pick it up.
Also, when people drop something, I interpret it as that they don't want that item anymore an making it free fo anyone to pick it up.
ichigo_panty
When they drop, it is an invitation to the world to pick it up. It is your choice to take it or not. The player know the risk before dropping and knowing the threat, he still dropped them. No offense to the one who picked them up.
Just ask anyone in guildwars with the right state of mind. People who drop items = Abandon/Forfeit of items. Invitation to treat, nothing is wrong with us picking any items the player dropped.
This cannot be said to the wallet case. No one with the right state of mind will drop their wallet and hope someone will just check it's value and leave it alone.
Unless you are a saint with no sins, you just can't resist taking them. If you are someone without any sins, you must be lying.
Just ask anyone in guildwars with the right state of mind. People who drop items = Abandon/Forfeit of items. Invitation to treat, nothing is wrong with us picking any items the player dropped.
This cannot be said to the wallet case. No one with the right state of mind will drop their wallet and hope someone will just check it's value and leave it alone.
Unless you are a saint with no sins, you just can't resist taking them. If you are someone without any sins, you must be lying.
zwei2stein
There is this amusing story about droks runner:
To show off he dropped warious golds on ground, such as perfect r8 chaos axe. He did it without fear as his runees were all dead and wouldnt zone him out.
He danced a bit, picked up his stuff and zoned in.
Problem is, he didnt pick it all up, and his precious r8 chaos axe was lost. (would be more funny if he forgot to pick out his sub absobtioned obsidian chet piece :-/)
lesson is (for me): if someone drops stuff on ground, they should think it over twice.
To show off he dropped warious golds on ground, such as perfect r8 chaos axe. He did it without fear as his runees were all dead and wouldnt zone him out.
He danced a bit, picked up his stuff and zoned in.
Problem is, he didnt pick it all up, and his precious r8 chaos axe was lost. (would be more funny if he forgot to pick out his sub absobtioned obsidian chet piece :-/)
lesson is (for me): if someone drops stuff on ground, they should think it over twice.
Perfected Shadow
[skill=text]Unyielding Aura[/skill] makes me consider playing a PvE monk:
[Monster name or player name here] drops a [loot name here]... *Double clicks 7 times*
[Monster name or player name here] drops a [loot name here]... *Double clicks 7 times*
allience
i don't think it's a bannable offense. however, it's not nice to steal that person's item. but, it is fun to pik it up, and then give it back after a while, just to make them beg a bit :P
Big_Iron
I agree with everyone else here. Wrong, yes. Bannable, no. I saw a guy lose his gold Tormented shield this way. Though, I have to admit, I did chuckle to myself that he lost it by being such an idiot.
TheRaven
Well, I've never picked golds that some show-off has dropped in my group, nor have I left a dead ally to rot while I grabbed his loot. That's just ethically wrong.
However, I do pick up stuff that others don't want. I don't sell much ingame so most of my money comes from merching everything. I grab all my drops, even the crappy white stuff. I also grab all your crappy white stuff that you left sitting there.
The biggest bounties are on fow trips. You get together a group of 8 people and attack the shadow army. After that you all decide to head over to the forge. On the way you clear out all the enemies on the big battle plain and then clear the forge and unlock the forgemaster.
At this point, 2 warriors decide they're done and leave. The ele says it's pointless to continue without tanks and leaves. 1 monk leaves without saying a word. The 4 of you that are left figure it's pointless with only 4 people. Everyone says, "good group" "had fun" "thx for the trip" and leaves. I then backtrack over the cleared out forge, battle plains, shadow army mounds and grab all the white and blue drops that people didn't figure were worth picking up. I can usually find at least a couple k worth.
However, I do pick up stuff that others don't want. I don't sell much ingame so most of my money comes from merching everything. I grab all my drops, even the crappy white stuff. I also grab all your crappy white stuff that you left sitting there.
The biggest bounties are on fow trips. You get together a group of 8 people and attack the shadow army. After that you all decide to head over to the forge. On the way you clear out all the enemies on the big battle plain and then clear the forge and unlock the forgemaster.
At this point, 2 warriors decide they're done and leave. The ele says it's pointless to continue without tanks and leaves. 1 monk leaves without saying a word. The 4 of you that are left figure it's pointless with only 4 people. Everyone says, "good group" "had fun" "thx for the trip" and leaves. I then backtrack over the cleared out forge, battle plains, shadow army mounds and grab all the white and blue drops that people didn't figure were worth picking up. I can usually find at least a couple k worth.
Personette
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Unless you are a saint with no sins, you just can't resist taking them. If you are someone without any sins, you must be lying.
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I've only seen this happen a couple of times, where somebody dropped their pretty weapons to show off and someone else tried to pick them up. It makes me feel like I'm sitting around with a bunch of little children fighting over a toy, and I just leave the group.
I've never seen anyone camp over someone else's drop, when that person has died - and I'm glad, because that's pretty mean.
But no, I wouldn't call either offense bannable.
Aera Lure
Neither are bannable imho.
The first example is just rather funny to me. If someone insists on dropping things on the ground in front of strangers, than its their fault if someone else picks it up and keeps it. I wouldnt, but I would find it rather laughable if that happened.
In the second example, I have rarely see that in a games I have played, since you have to leave someone dead for a decent amount of time for that to come up (unless you're backtracking). In either case, its just an indication that those are people you dont wish to party with again. It is, after all though, only a 1k drop until identified, ultimately, unless its a green. Hardly a call to ban someone, but it is very poor sportsmanship.
The first example is just rather funny to me. If someone insists on dropping things on the ground in front of strangers, than its their fault if someone else picks it up and keeps it. I wouldnt, but I would find it rather laughable if that happened.
In the second example, I have rarely see that in a games I have played, since you have to leave someone dead for a decent amount of time for that to come up (unless you're backtracking). In either case, its just an indication that those are people you dont wish to party with again. It is, after all though, only a 1k drop until identified, ultimately, unless its a green. Hardly a call to ban someone, but it is very poor sportsmanship.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
It's not bannable, but the person who dropped the item deserves to be slapped upside the head for being stupid, and thinking he's cool cause he was whatever item.
InfernalSuffering
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There is this amusing story about droks runner:
To show off he dropped warious golds on ground, such as perfect r8 chaos axe. He did it without fear as his runees were all dead and wouldnt zone him out. He danced a bit, picked up his stuff and zoned in. Problem is, he didnt pick it all up, and his precious r8 chaos axe was lost. (would be more funny if he forgot to pick out his sub absobtioned obsidian chet piece :-/) lesson is (for me): if someone drops stuff on ground, they should think it over twice. |
Agree with everybody else on the not moral correct and not banable.
Sir Skullcrasher
I do this alot with my friends and occasionally, they would take my weapons, runes, or holiday helms but always gave it right back. Bannable, no... driving peoples insane cuz someone drops an Gold Crystalline Sword on purpose? Yes!