ANET has either messed up again or launched another nerf against farmers and HMers

ca_aok

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

The latest update has removed hard mode capability from all Challenge Missions. This nerfs several farm spots, LB runs, and makes some areas impossible to vanquish (Arborstone Explorable?). Hopefully this is merely a bug, and I hope that it will be resolved soon.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

What update?

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Update - Thursday June 7
Bug Fixes

* Fixed a bug in Fort Aspenwood that allowed the Warriors to be lured away from their destination.


Miscellaneous

* Made additional preparations for the Alliance Battle weekend event.
* Removed an incorrect +5 Energy Bonus that was added to General Morgahn's Primeval Leggings.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Yup, lots of unhappy bunnies in Remains of Sahalja.

I'm only 5k from Max as well.

Starting at the Gate of Desolation is gonna slow me down, as I had a nice 4 minute run that was tedious but netted a good 1100 points per hour even without the two farming quests.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hey now, if they're going to fix the Luxon warriors, can they please fix the Kurzick gatekeepers from going away from their posts?

But damn, at least they did something to it. I'm totally suprised that they touched FA at all.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Another bug in FA is that sometimes the luxon warriors will double spawn on one side. 12 total wars instead of 8.

Well I guess its time for me to go test this 'fix' hehe.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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yea, it is kind sad bout the HM sunspear LB farmers, atleast in my alliance chat ppl were complaining bout it, hope they fix it soon........

Andrew Patrick

Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

Hey guys,

We will be turning the Hard Mode function back on for Challenge Missions. It seemed like using Hard Mode was illogical since it would simply make it more difficult to get on the ladder, but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.

Sorry for the trouble, it should be fixed soon!

ca_aok

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

Hey, I'd just like to say thanks for the fast response, sorry if the title was a tad harsh

Good to know it'll be fixed.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Hey Andrew,

Wow. That was quick, thank you !

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Great news Andrew! Thanks...Wheew...That made me sweat.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

WooT! Andrew FtW.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

that was close.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

to vanquish arborstone, could you vanquish just the side from tanglewood or would you need to get into the main area to kill everything there too?

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

wait a minute, anet is back to saying farming is ok?

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

anet has always said farming is ok despite constantly nerfing it. Same with running. "We respect that everyone has different ways to enjoy the game and encourage it" (paraphrased)

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick
Hey guys,

We will be turning the Hard Mode function back on for Challenge Missions. It seemed like using Hard Mode was illogical since it would simply make it more difficult to get on the ladder, but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.

Sorry for the trouble, it should be fixed soon!
Thank you Andrew. My heart fell when I read the start of this topic. That really would have done me in. Hopefully its returned to HM status soon and many thanks.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

oh man.. at the Remains of Sahlahja people are all pissed and confused =)

so many farmers

Sir Green Aluminum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Farming was always ok, how else would you get 15k sets and obsidian armour. But letting invinci-monks and solo builds get all the rares while other people have to party is meh.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

They never said it wasn't. They didn't like Bot Farming.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

....Thanks Andrew. But I kind of wonder.

Is it REALLY true that you don't know that we're using it to FARM? REALLY?

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

andrew - people were upset, at least in some areas, not because they couldn't HM the challenge quests, but because they couldnt HM the explorable areas outside the challenge quest towns...nice to know that'll be put back on, though.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
wait a minute, anet is back to saying farming is ok?
SR and mesmers are going to be buffed, and you complain. I'll pretend to be surprised.

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick
Hey guys,

We will be turning the Hard Mode function back on for Challenge Missions. It seemed like using Hard Mode was illogical since it would simply make it more difficult to get on the ladder, but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.

Sorry for the trouble, it should be fixed soon!
Anet got owned by Anet

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

I'm not at home to see what is/was going on, but from reading this thread I became confused.? People are mentioning not being able to LB farm in response to the non-hardmode challenge mission, Remains of Sahlahja. Andrew says they weren't aware of farming going on in the challenge mission and they'll fix. ?? The LB point farming is in Sulfurous Wastes. So people aren't able to enter Sulfurous Wastes in HM then? That is what needs to be fixed then huh.

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clobimon
I'm not at home to see what is/was going on, but from reading this thread I became confused.? People are mentioning not being able to LB farm in response to the non-hardmode challenge mission, Remains of Sahlahja. Andrew says they weren't aware of farming going on in the challenge mission and they'll fix. ?? The LB point farming is in Sulfurous Wastes. So people aren't able to enter Sulfurous Wastes in HM then? That is what needs to be fixed then huh.
Anet don't play the game, they just nerf the shit out of farming because it's fun. /sacrism

But seriously, they knew, just need a "reason" to un-nerf it.

Rue The Day

Rue The Day

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Disciples Of Sunset [DusK]

N/Me

Hey Andrew, thanks a lot for that. Very much appreciated. I will max out my lightbringer and sunspear titles eventually!

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Hey now, if they're going to fix the Luxon warriors, can they please fix the Kurzick gatekeepers from going away from their posts?

But damn, at least they did something to it. I'm totally suprised that they touched FA at all.
Have to agree with you there, and what about the Luxon players able to lure out the Juggernauts way beyond where they are supposed to be at.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

LOL... I made a bet with a friend that they will nerf how people farm SS and LB points so did I win or not?

You should see the anger in the Remains of Sahlahja it was great!

Quote:
oh man.. at the Remains of Sahlahja people are all pissed and confused =)
It was quite a sight! I wonder how many will rage quit who don't read the forums.

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
LOL... I made a bet with a friend that they will nerf how people farm SS and LB points so did I win or not?

You should see the anger in the Remains of Sahlahja it was great!



It was quite a sight! I wonder how many will rage quit who don't read the forums.
9999, my counters full, someone esle count.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick
but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.
You cannot honestly say that you guys did not know that. Whatever the case, I am glad you guys are putting it back. Thanks

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick
Hey guys,

We will be turning the Hard Mode function back on for Challenge Missions. It seemed like using Hard Mode was illogical since it would simply make it more difficult to get on the ladder, but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.

Sorry for the trouble, it should be fixed soon!
WOW! Great.
I was almost going to rant and get myself banned

There's so much grind involved in ss/lb farming and i'm glad that Anet realises this.
It's the only realistic way to make decent progress in those titles and each run with 7 henchies nets less than 1k usually in my experience.

Yay for HM lightbringer farmers!

(ps, the tome drop rate sucks *wink wink*)

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Green Aluminum
Farming was always ok, how else would you get 15k sets and obsidian armour. But letting invinci-monks and solo builds get all the rares while other people have to party is meh.
You didnt have to do anything. You had a choice. It was your choice to group and others solo. nothing wrong with that.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Before this thread completely derails into a farming debate... Closed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick
Hey guys,

We will be turning the Hard Mode function back on for Challenge Missions. It seemed like using Hard Mode was illogical since it would simply make it more difficult to get on the ladder, but if players are using it to farm, we will put the option back in.

Sorry for the trouble, it should be fixed soon!

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Thanks for fixing your mistake, A-net. We appreciate it.


( NOW you can close this thread. (hehe)