Double Proffesion Skills

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Honor O Wicked Wick
Banned
#1
I was thinking it would be cool to have skills that required points in an attribute from both your main proffesion and you second proffesion. Here's a bad example, but an example, nonetheless.

Fire Magic and Hammer/Sword/Axe Skill.
For __ seconds, you Hammer/Sword/Axe attacks and skills deal fire damage as well as regular damage.
Kokuyougan
Kokuyougan
Academy Page
#2
I agree its a pretty cool idea, but...

/notsigned

It would be overpowered...Think:Conjure Flame+Weapon=same thing as example. But using only 1 spell/skill slot. Sorry, but its simply too powerful.


P.S
How do you gets those spell picture instead of words?
icymanipulator
icymanipulator
Krytan Explorer
#3
I think this is a GREAT idea!! Maybe not the specific example but I am talking about the general concept.

It would bring another M:tG element into the game in that the same way certain colors compliment each other eg. Black/Blue, Green/Red etc. We should have certain professions that would benefit from added skill synergy as well.

I doubt it would ever clear due to balance issues particularly in PvP but what a cool idea for an overall concept. I'd personally love to see a N/Me specific Hex spell that had better benefit with that combo. Or a W/A attack skill that had a better benefit etc. etc. There are numerous possible combinations and it would add some additional rewards and depth to playing certain combinations.

Very cool!
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OhCrapLions
Krytan Explorer
#4
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Originally Posted by Kokuyougan
P.S
How do you gets those spell picture instead of words?
[ skill ]Conjure Phantasm[ /skill ]

Dont use any spaces in the code and you get this:

[skill]Conjure Phantasm[/skill]



Anyway, its cool but this defeats the purpose of mixing and matching skills.

/notsigned
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JeniM
Desert Nomad
#5
Use Cunjure Flame and an FDS same thing its what i use
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Hawkeye
Lion's Arch Merchant
#6
I think it is a kickass idea. I doubt it would ever be implemented, but I'd love to see something like that.

It would have to be independent of attributes, though. There would just be way too many combinations of attributes to make that viable.

Rather, it would be like grenith's balance.. an attributeless elite.

As such, the effects would have to be independent upon attribute levels. That sort of sucks the impracticality of it all, because you could be level 1 with this super-elite which lets you get by without needing to advance higher.

It'd have to be level based. At level 20, the maximum effect is achieved much like if you had 12 points placed in any attribute.

Let me think of some kickass combinations... *ahem*

Warrior/Necro (Or Necro/warrior)
Maurader's Curse - Hex. Target touched foe. For 5 seconds, after every physical hit placed on foe, foe loses 5 armor. If you successfully hit ally, curse is reapplied.

Necro/Mesmer (Or Mesmer/Necro)
Lyssa's Burden - Hex. For 30 seconds, whenever target foe is hexed, the nearest foe to target foe takes that hex as well.

Elemenalist/Ranger (Or Ranger/Elementalist)
Nature's Fury - Preparation. For 20 seconds, whenever a foe successfully hit with an arrow, target foe and all nearby foes take 20 fire damage and are set on fire.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#7
There are already skill useable by more than one profession, they are called 'common'. Unlinked skills act the same way.
icymanipulator
icymanipulator
Krytan Explorer
#8
What he is getting at is not a common skill but a skill that benefits from using a certain combination of professions. At least this is the way I understood it.

Imagine if Grenth's Balance (for example) had a stipulation in it that if you played a Mesmer as a secondary it also pulled the difference in energy.

Yes this and others are potentially overpowered suggestions but the concept is still very interesting.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#9
Ive always like this idea.

Wicked Trick - Scythe Illusion Hex Attack. If this attack hits you cause +5...20 damage (linked to Scythe Mastery) and your target suffers from the hex Wicked Trick for 5...10 seconds (linked to Illusion). While suffering from this hex, Target suffers -1..5 degeneration (linked to illusion). When this hex ends, both you and your target lose all enchantments.
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Mister O
Krytan Explorer
#10
go offline and play neverwinter nights...
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Hawkeye
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
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Originally Posted by Mister O
go offline and play neverwinter nights...
You must live to go on forums and attack ideas that aren't your own. It's an idea with a fun prospect. Just because it's not already implemented in Guild Wars doesn't mean it is a crappy idea. Heck, if it were, it wouldn't *be* an idea, now would it?

If they were regulated to be kept from being overpowerful, they would really be much like elite skills. In fact they would be exactly like elite skills, except only your profession combination could obtain it. If they were made more powerful than elites, then everyone would take the dual profession skills and it would sort of lose the 'builder' aspect of the game, so it really couldn't be overpowered.

Mesmer/Elementalist
Wastrel's Burden - Hex. After 5 seconds, target foe takes 12...75 earth damage and is knocked down for 2 seconds. Wastrel's Burden ends prematurely if that foe uses a skill.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#12
Cross-attribute skills have been suggested, but... think of this:

10 professions, in non-repeatable conbinations with other 10 professions, that is...

9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=45

That's 45 combinations... let's say we add... hm... 10 skills per combination...

That would be 450 more skills, only sable while in certain combination...

Eh... few...

I don't think Anet would like the idea at all.
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freekedoutfish
Furnace Stoker
#13
Ranger/elemental = Bow + Kindle Arrows + Conjure flame!

Warrior/elemental = Fiery Dragon Sword + Conjure flame!
Warrior/elemental = Icy Dragon Sword + conjure frost!

etc etc etc... get the idea? A'walla!

/so not signed as you can already do it!
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Hawkeye
Lion's Arch Merchant
#14
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Cross-attribute skills have been suggested, but... think of this:

10 professions, in non-repeatable conbinations with other 10 professions, that is...

9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=45

That's 45 combinations... let's say we add... hm... 10 skills per combination...

That would be 450 more skills, only sable while in certain combination...

Eh... few...

I don't think Anet would like the idea at all.
10 skills per combination? Are you nuts? I was only talking 1. 45 skills, in comparison with respect to the 200 skills per profession * 10 = 2000 skills is not a lot. Plus we're talking about 1 skill for each player. Besides, you don't think that in Guild Wars 2, they won't be trying to create skills anyway?

If they have such a hard time thinking up skill ideas, I'd love to spend my free time thinking them up. I don't think it's such hard work afterall...
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#15
Only 1? Why to?

'the cross skeeeeeeeel'!

Why to?

Combos are made by micing professions, not attributes.
MagmaRed
MagmaRed
Furnace Stoker
#16
Too many options.

Consider just one class combo, when , as stated, there are MANY.

N/Me

You would need a skill for:

Illusion+Blood
Illusion+Curse
Illusion+Death
Illusion+Soul Reaping
Domination+Blood
Domination+Curse
Domination+Death
Domination+Soul Reaping
Inspiration+Blood
Inspiration+Curse
Inspiration+Death
Inspiration+Soul Reaping
Fast Casting+Blood
Fast Casting+Curse
Fast Casting+Death
Fast Casting+Soul Reaping

That is 16 skills, for 1 of the 45 class combos. Granted, you could remove the Primary attributes, but that would only reduce the number to 9 skills per class combo. 9x45=405 skills.
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Hawkeye
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
If such a thing were ever done, I sincerely doubt all the 'skill' would be on which cross-profession skills become available to you. So to say that it destroys the point of mixing professions is not all that true. It would simply be an elite you could say you have which nobody on your team has which may or may not serve you.

And he said 'double profession' skills, not 'double attribute' skills! Grrrrrrr!
MagmaRed
MagmaRed
Furnace Stoker
#18
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Originally Posted by Honor O Wicked Wick
I was thinking it would be cool to have skills that required points in an attribute from both your main proffesion and you second proffesion. Here's a bad example, but an example, nonetheless.

Fire Magic and Hammer/Sword/Axe Skill.
For __ seconds, you Hammer/Sword/Axe attacks and skills deal fire damage as well as regular damage.
Read more than the topic title.

"required points in an attribute from both your main proffesion and you second proffesion."

He is saying he wants skills that have increased effectiveness by using attributes from 2 classes.

1 skill, 2 effects.

So an example would be:

W/A
Hidden Strength
Strike target foe for 5-15 damage. For 2-8 seconds, you have a 75% chance to block attacks against you.

Damage would be based off of the Strength Attribute, duration of blocking would be based on Shadow Arts Attribute.
Terra Xin
Terra Xin
Furnace Stoker
#19
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Too many options.

Consider just one class combo, when , as stated, there are MANY.

N/Me

You would need a skill for:

Illusion+Blood
Illusion+Curse
Illusion+Death
Illusion+Soul Reaping
Domination+Blood
Domination+Curse
Domination+Death
Domination+Soul Reaping
Inspiration+Blood
Inspiration+Curse
Inspiration+Death
Inspiration+Soul Reaping
Fast Casting+Blood
Fast Casting+Curse
Fast Casting+Death
Fast Casting+Soul Reaping

That is 16 skills, for 1 of the 45 class combos. Granted, you could remove the Primary attributes, but that would only reduce the number to 9 skills per class combo. 9x45=405 skills.
yup. A better suggestion would be to have passive effects when crossing professions, rather than just having specific skills. But that would make PvP greatly unbalanced.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I don't think it's such hard work afterall...
I don't mean to be rude, not at all... But I'll see it before I believe it.
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Hawkeye
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
Well I disagree! Lord knows I have no evidence to backup my claim, but I concur! I mean, I disagree!