Luxon and Kurzick Divide.
GW Faction introduced the Luxon and Kurzick it added a fun new PvP element and many other great things.
But the biggest down side it brought to the game a divide or division in the game as player’s and guilds picked sides.
A lot of problems have come from this.
The biggest example witch really bugged me as well as many players in the alliance chat.
One of my officers invited one of his old friends into the guild and after welcoming this player into the guild and alliance. This new player noticed the alliance was Luxon. As soon as this player saw that the alliance was Luxon this player started to spam anti Luxon slogans and that he wanted to be in a Kurzick alliance and hated Luxon.
After seeing this I asked him to stop nicely at first, trying to be understanding to his disappointment but after continuing to spam the alliance chat I kicked the player.
I’ve also had many players not want to join the guild because of being a Luxon guild.
Now I’m sure this also happens to other guilds and I’m sure its not just Luxon guilds that get this kind of thing. I’m sure Kurzick side also gets hate players.
Personal I love the fact you can have Alliances this has really opened the number of players and friends you can have in one place but it has also split the game in two.
One solution might be to have alliances that can be both Luxon and Kurzick. You can have players go to ether Luxon or Kurzick side to fight and when they donate there faction to the alliance, the alliance can have both Luxon and Kurzick faction. Two numbers.
There probably other solutions that can be better. I don’t really mind if nothing happens but I just find it disappointing that this Divide has hurt the game.
What do you guys think? Do you have any solutions? What are your own experiences with this?
Luxon and Kurzick Divide
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Sol Deathgard
I know what you mean about the haters. Soon as Factions came out my guild choose Kurzick, but after a few months 2 officers in the guild kept complaining that "kurzicks suck in AB" and began getting guest invites to Luxion guilds so they can AB as Luxons. They continually talk about "how much greater the luxons are then Kurzicks" even though both sides are really about the same. They both refuse to leave the guild for a luxon alliance and the rest of us don't wanna change to Luxon, so we're stuck with Kurzick haters in a Kurzick guild.
wingzro
Could just kick them...
Taki
1) You don't want someone who takes the Lux/Kur faction seriously in your guild or alliance. This type of person has mental and social issues.
2) Outside of the people above, the division can be entertaining and was an attempt at making a short campaign appear longer.
3) I like your suggestion for neutral alliances.
2) Outside of the people above, the division can be entertaining and was an attempt at making a short campaign appear longer.
3) I like your suggestion for neutral alliances.
Bryant Again
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1) You don't want someone who takes the Lux/Kur faction seriously in your guild or alliance. This type of person has mental and social issues.
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Onarik Amrak
Faction haters are usually morons anyway.
Some people just take things too seriously.
Some people just take things too seriously.
upier
I am quite a fan of the Luxy/Kurzy division!
That just means we get two additional armours sets (or 4 - depending how you look at it!)!
The rest is meaningless!
(well except the fact that pirates are much cooler then those tree-hugging-hippies! turtles ftw!111!11)
((unless were talking about the ritu and the warrior armours! kurzicks ftw in those cases!
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That just means we get two additional armours sets (or 4 - depending how you look at it!)!
The rest is meaningless!
(well except the fact that pirates are much cooler then those tree-hugging-hippies! turtles ftw!111!11)
((unless were talking about the ritu and the warrior armours! kurzicks ftw in those cases!
Pericles
I agree that people who act like that take the game too seriously and i've had the same thing happening in my alliance. However, kurzicks and luxons are definitely not 'equal' because the kurzicks have fast-faction-farming which is the reason why more people choose kurzick than luxon.
JeniM
I can't stand the "Suxon" chants in AB, Whats the difference between the people sat at the other computer and you if ones Kurzick and the others Luxon? = Nothing
Healers Wisper
ok look, taunting is taunting. I agree that you shouldn't take the who luxon/kurz divide too seriously but really, the people who do are no more retarted then red sox fans who hate the yankees. Come on. it should be good clean fun and people naturally identify themselves with teams. calm down and don't take it personally. some people just get caught up in rivalries thats all. I personally think it add another aspect to the game I find fun.
Kool Pajamas
There should be a way to make an alliance with both kurzick and luxon guilds. Perhaps by talking to someone at the end game area where you beat shiro. The kurz and luxons at that point are allied in the story. Some people like to play on certain sides for the titles.
The disadvantage to it could be made so that your alliance cant control a town, which most people dont care about anyway.
The disadvantage to it could be made so that your alliance cant control a town, which most people dont care about anyway.
Evilsod
I always find it funny when people take the alliance thing way too seriously... I can only assume the people who do are infact 10 year olds who think spamming 'suxons' and 'kurdicks' is actually funny...
Seriously wtf is the problem... If they're been twats, kick them, if the officers are, complain to the leader to do something or leave.
Seriously wtf is the problem... If they're been twats, kick them, if the officers are, complain to the leader to do something or leave.
JGaff
Calling each other "tree hugger" and "turtle toucher" is pretty amusing if everyone does it in a facetious manner and is just goofing off. Personally, I would enjoy the divide more if choosing a side meant anything. As it stands right now, players have very little to gain by supporting either side. If ANet had put in epic PvP maps (think lots of players/action), the end game would have been more intriguing...
Konrow
Classic example really. introduce a way to divide people and discrimination occurs right away even though its the most silly thing in the world. Honestly the faction you choose does not say ANYTHING about you or your skill. Classic example of peoples' stupidity.
Here's another example fo this sort of thing: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/view.html
Here's another example fo this sort of thing: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/view.html
JGaff
Calling each other "tree hugger" and "turtle toucher" is pretty amusing if everyone does it in a facetious manner and is just goofing off. Personally, I would enjoy the divide more if choosing a side meant anything. As it stands right now, players have very little to gain by supporting either side. If ANet had put in epic PvP maps (think lots of players/action), the end game would have been more intriguing...
reddswitch
Guilds should have a choice of choosing kurzick, luxon, or none. That makes the most sense. If the 'none' guilds want to Alliance Battle their npc should give an option of going luxon or kurzick side: I will fight for the Kurzicks! I will fight for the Luxons! When I started I honestly thought that was an option.
-Loki-
Wow, I didn't know people actually cared about it, I thought it was just some humorous banter before an AB match got under way. But, really, if it's annoying you guys so much, just get rid of him. Personally, I've never seen it happen, and I didn't know anyone cared enough about which side they are on to seriously do that kind of thing.
Cacheelma
....aren't you more than A YEAR late on this?
Besides, everyone loves Kurzicks, so... XD
Besides, everyone loves Kurzicks, so... XD
Terra Xin
I trash Luxons only when I'm fighting against them, but I don't take it seriously or anything... just getting into the spirit of the game. Some people take it too far, that's why you don't hesitate in kicking them, because if that's what they're like with Luxon/Kurzick, then they will frustrate you in all forms of gameplay in GW.
Whenever I'm in a Luxon guild, I put more focus on my guildies, and set aside my differences...
But what really bugs me is that whenever I make a remark against Luxons, I get the same old "... It's only a game, you know" OF COURSE ITS A FRIGGIN GAME!!!
Whenever I'm in a Luxon guild, I put more focus on my guildies, and set aside my differences...
But what really bugs me is that whenever I make a remark against Luxons, I get the same old "... It's only a game, you know" OF COURSE ITS A FRIGGIN GAME!!!
beanerman_99
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Calling each other "tree hugger" and "turtle toucher" is pretty amusing if everyone does it in a facetious manner and is just goofing off. Personally, I would enjoy the divide more if choosing a side meant anything. As it stands right now, players have very little to gain by supporting either side. If ANet had put in epic PvP maps (think lots of players/action), the end game would have been more intriguing...
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I too would like to see more epic battles, even some that just go on and on and you can just hope on to help out anytime. I guess we will have to wait and see if this kind of thing will happen in GW2.
-Loki-
The only benefit I can see, now that you can get to Urgoz/Deep with a scroll, is that you can buy keys of the opposite faction without needing faction for that faction. Faction.
Miral
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Agreed. People who take that crap seriously need to be booted and ignored on the spot.
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Silly Warrior
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3) I like your suggestion for neutral alliances. |
Of course, it will most likely never get implemented, but neutral couldn't cause any hate now could it?
Div
Or they could just grow up a bit and not spam so much? You're most likely dealing with 12 year old kids in your alliance...
Cacheelma
Wait, what does it mean if a guild is "neutral" then?
Currently, you don't HAVE TO align your guild to any of the two factions if you don't want to. But if you want to play in AB, you'll have to do that (or get some guest privileges).
If you want a neutral alliance just for alliance chat then fine. But if you want a neutral alliance where you can join BOTH side of Factions in AB then let me tell you: Not gonna happen. The current system of AB entrance in GH is supposed to help prevent griefing, so it's here to stay.
Currently, you don't HAVE TO align your guild to any of the two factions if you don't want to. But if you want to play in AB, you'll have to do that (or get some guest privileges).
If you want a neutral alliance just for alliance chat then fine. But if you want a neutral alliance where you can join BOTH side of Factions in AB then let me tell you: Not gonna happen. The current system of AB entrance in GH is supposed to help prevent griefing, so it's here to stay.
ChyldeOfTheLotus
I like the way things are now. If anything, I think there should be more factions to choose from. Nightfall can have Sunspears vs Corsairs. Prophecies can have Shining Blade vs White Mantle. Oh well, maybe they'll add some more factions in GW2.
Kool Pajamas
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Wait, what does it mean if a guild is "neutral" then?
Currently, you don't HAVE TO align your guild to any of the two factions if you don't want to. But if you want to play in AB, you'll have to do that (or get some guest privileges). If you want a neutral alliance just for alliance chat then fine. But if you want a neutral alliance where you can join BOTH side of Factions in AB then let me tell you: Not gonna happen. The current system of AB entrance in GH is supposed to help prevent griefing, so it's here to stay. |
Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
Well it doesnt because you can already get a guest invite to another guild and play that way. I have one account in a kurz guild and the other in a luxon. I just invite myself over if I feel like playing the other side.
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arcanemacabre
It's really aggravating for people like me who want to be able to progress through Factions on the Luxon side, but I'm in a Kurzick guild. And that is exactly what's going on. I have to find a Luxon guild to guest with, just to AB, just to get the 10k faction needed to get into the stupid Gayala Hatchery, or I'm stuck doing 400 faction quests over and over (already did all the other quests long ago and spent the faction before progressing with this particular character). I'm sitting at 2400 Luxon faction, with just too much to go.
It's just a frustrating element. Nothing is stopping anyone from griefing, aside from this one thing of needing to guest - which if someone wants to grief bad enough, they will. Just add neutral alignment, maybe with lessened faction gain from either side, or just allow anyone from either side to play the other if they choose. Neutral alignment has my vote.
It's just a frustrating element. Nothing is stopping anyone from griefing, aside from this one thing of needing to guest - which if someone wants to grief bad enough, they will. Just add neutral alignment, maybe with lessened faction gain from either side, or just allow anyone from either side to play the other if they choose. Neutral alignment has my vote.
Marth Reynolds
Arcane you know you could run from unwaking waters to the unwaking waters (luxon) and you can enter if you have more lux then kurz faction and then run backwards all up to gyala?
Anyway I'm luxon non stop only for one thing the jade sea ^^, i love area and don't want to trade it for some dull forest. (My opinion, and yes i know people have different vieuws on this!)
Atm i won't consider joining a kurzick guild mainly due to the number of times i've been scolded by em. but you do realize that even if they didn't have differen names these alliance, that AB players will still scold.
Anyway I'm luxon non stop only for one thing the jade sea ^^, i love area and don't want to trade it for some dull forest. (My opinion, and yes i know people have different vieuws on this!)
Atm i won't consider joining a kurzick guild mainly due to the number of times i've been scolded by em. but you do realize that even if they didn't have differen names these alliance, that AB players will still scold.
arcanemacabre
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Arcane you know you could run from unwaking waters to the unwaking waters (luxon) and you can enter if you have more lux then kurz faction and then run backwards all up to gyala?
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I honestly had no idea! Well thanks! *off to a-runnin*
Miral
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Originally Posted by ChyldeOfTheLotus
I like the way things are now. If anything, I think there should be more factions to choose from. Nightfall can have Sunspears vs Corsairs. Prophecies can have Shining Blade vs White Mantle. Oh well, maybe they'll add some more factions in GW2.
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Skuld
where did you get that from?
Dahnel
I trash talk wherever i go...AB, TA, HA, Grandma's house...
Miral
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Originally Posted by Skuld
where did you get that from?
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Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Miral
a couple of friends who were following nightfall before it was publicly announced were discussing it......
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I'd say BS.
Besides, "Magebane" = Anet's clever way of saying "Anti-caster". This kind of thing is common in Magic The Gathering's card naming convention.
BenjZee
how most issues resolve in this game....Some people are just jerks...live with them.
i like the divide but the saying like "suxons" is just really sad
I recon we should get ore benefit from border pushing ...and maybe a benefit of titles would be cool. Maybe when u push the border you get more faction depending on what side of the border. It will make it more competetive and give people a reason to push it
about the nightfall factions..well they probably were thinkin about making some but none of these skills were from them. slightly similar to sunspears, istanit, kournans etc.
There will most likely be new sort of factiosn in guild wars :Eye of the north. I remember heraring something about like titles for the different races.and when i read baout the strongest norns getting a place to look after peoople reminds me of AB. this should be interesting because the norns also have diffferent creatures in which they like worship ..wolf, bear...
i like the divide but the saying like "suxons" is just really sad
I recon we should get ore benefit from border pushing ...and maybe a benefit of titles would be cool. Maybe when u push the border you get more faction depending on what side of the border. It will make it more competetive and give people a reason to push it
about the nightfall factions..well they probably were thinkin about making some but none of these skills were from them. slightly similar to sunspears, istanit, kournans etc.
There will most likely be new sort of factiosn in guild wars :Eye of the north. I remember heraring something about like titles for the different races.and when i read baout the strongest norns getting a place to look after peoople reminds me of AB. this should be interesting because the norns also have diffferent creatures in which they like worship ..wolf, bear...
Spazzer
Logically and monetarily speaking, your guild should be Kurzick. Guild Wars is designed with a bias of faction gains towards Kurzicks.
However, I wave my little Luxon flag because I <3 pirates.
However, I wave my little Luxon flag because I <3 pirates.
DarkGanni
It kinda sucks having 2 "sides" calling eachother names when actually they don't realize that they play together most of the time in other areas for example FoW or missions. The ppl calling the faction sides names are the mark of a racist or a kid.
NinjaKai
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Originally Posted by Miral
Some people are actually just roleplaying... it is an RPG, afterall.
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